PSU - MN game last night

[RUonBrain]

Phew!

Thank goodness the Gophers pulled it out.

Nice to have someone below us in the standings.
Seems like PSU has the best chance of that this year.

If we beat them at their place next Saturday, it would be a massive cushion for us, especially since we get them at home in early March.

 

[shields]

Thank goodness they lost.

 

[rufeelinit]

Right now that seems like a big if with regard to the outcome next Saturday on the road. They are playing the better conference teams more competitively than we are. You have to wonder if Chambers is done after this year.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Phew!

Thank goodness the Gophers pulled it out.

Nice to have someone below us in the standings.
Seems like PSU has the best chance of that this year.

If we beat them at their place next Saturday, it would be a massive cushion for us, especially since we get them at home in early March.

Something tells me we have a better chance of beating them at their morgue than we do at the RAC.

Those broadcasts from the Jordan Center are just horrible. It always sounds like the place is empty with the same group of about 10 drunk fans chanting and screaming on every play. Just awful.

 

[RUJMM78]

Its truly a sad commentary on mens basketball that fans think Penn State will be a lifeline to keep Rutgers out of last place in the B1G.Even if it happens coming in 13th or 14th is a sign of futility and a long way to go to just be mediocre.Rutgers needs accountability and a sense of urgency to get out of the abyss of losing.Until Rutgers gets shooters/scorers on the court this nightmare will continue.Its not by accident that Rutgers has come in last the 4 previous seasons in B1G rankings.

I understand fans are looking for a glimmer of sunshine .I just wish they were more demanding of meaningful positive results.

 

[RUsojo]

We should sweep Penn St

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

We should sweep Penn St

I just hope we get one. I think we could just as easily get swept.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Its truly a sad commentary on mens basketball that fans think Penn State will be a lifeline to keep Rutgers out of last place in the B1G.Even if it happens coming in 13th or 14th is a sign of futility and a long way to go to just be mediocre.Rutgers needs accountability and a sense of urgency to get out of the abyss of losing.Until Rutgers gets shooters/scorers on the court this nightmare will continue.Its not by accident that Rutgers has come in last the 4 previous seasons in B1G rankings.

I understand fans are looking for a glimmer of sunshine .I just wish they were more demanding of meaningful positive results.

So true. We set the bar lower than any other P5 program.

 

[dpwhite]

Its truly a sad commentary on mens basketball that fans think Penn State will be a lifeline to keep Rutgers out of last place in the B1G.Even if it happens coming in 13th or 14th is a sign of futility and a long way to go to just be mediocre.Rutgers needs accountability and a sense of urgency to get out of the abyss of losing.Until Rutgers gets shooters/scorers on the court this nightmare will continue.Its not by accident that Rutgers has come in last the 4 previous seasons in B1G rankings.

I understand fans are looking for a glimmer of sunshine .I just wish they were more demanding of meaningful positive results.

I honestly am asking, because you always say "sense of urgency and accountability" about Rutgers becoming a winning program. What do you suggest we do? Does shouting and complaining on a message board make it happen faster? Do you really think Pikiell and crew aren't trying to win?

I actually think consistency and strategy are what this team needs. It, unfortunately, takes time, and resetting the clock won't make it happen any faster.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

We should sweep Penn St

They are better than us. Watkins may get in better shape by the time they play us.

 

[shields]

Look at the Boston College situation. Guy won 13, 7 and 9 games first 3 years. Went to Nit last year. This year are 9-7 and playing Florida State today and could lose that game. Not easy to rebuild at BC and Rutgers. 57-86 at BC

 

[SirScarlet]

I honestly am asking, because you always say "sense of urgency and accountability" about Rutgers becoming a winning program. What do you suggest we do? Does shouting and complaining on a message board make it happen faster? Do you really think Pikiell and crew aren't trying to win?

I actually think consistency and strategy are what this team needs. It, unfortunately, takes time, and resetting the clock won't make it happen any faster.

I agree with you Dave. There are things that Pike needs to do better but it's almost as if people forget how bad we were before Pike get here and that its year 3. Could he be further along? Sure. But I think any rationale person would agree that if the expectation would be to be further along, it wouldn't be that much further along

That's how bad this situation was (and btw why a guy like Hurley asked for so much time )

 

[RUsojo]

I just hope we get one. I think we could just as easily get swept.

They are better than us. Watkins may get in better shape by the time they play us.

I don’t think so. We match up really really well against them. Especially with EO. Not worried about Watkins he’s got good measurable but IMO he’s a pretty average player that can’t be THE guy. Granted we could lose, that’s obvious, but we’ll be favored at home I believe. I didn’t look at the schedule but provided we play at penn st late in the year we may be a favorite there too.

 

[shields]

Need Eugene to play versus Stevens.

 

[bac2therac]

Penn state both games will not be easy. Not sure why our fans annex these games as wins. Talent wise they have an edge

 

[bac2therac]

Look at the Boston College situation. Guy won 13, 7 and 9 games first 3 years. Went to Nit last year. This year are 9-7 and playing Florida State today and could lose that game. Not easy to rebuild at BC and Rutgers. 57-86 at BC

He will likely be fired if they are under 500

 

[RUsojo]

Penn state both games will not be easy. Not sure why our fans annex these games as wins. Talent wise they have an edge

First I say in November where are the wins coming from and I get ridiculed now I’m saying we will get a few against penn st and get ridiculed. Cmon man! Lol

I pegged this season on the money have some faith in my next call

I see no reason why we don’t win at least one against penn st provided we don’t play Issa late in the game

 

[LC-88]

So true. We set the bar lower than any other P5 program.

we don't even have a bar at this point

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Penn State in some ways mirrors RU entering the B1G...no real investment into basketball and solely focused into football.

I don't think anyone truly cares about basketball in the middle of PA which in time will have RU past PSU most years going forward...especially once the full share is provided to RU.

As far as this season, the 2 best players on either team as of today are Lamar Stevens and Josh Reaves. With "sweeping" PSU, while in theory that would make sense, the general public doesn't agree with that, based on the numbers Vegas currently has in place.

Minnesota was a 10 to 10.5 point favorite over RU last weekend. Yesterday Minnesota off a 25+ point loss at Illinois, was a 4 point favorite over PSU. The game finished up 65-64, Gophers.

I am not saying RU cannot win at PSU, it's on paper the easiest road game likely for RU to win. But PSU has the best 2 players on the court as a senior and junior and RU is minus their best front court defender in Omoyuri, who would be an additional layer to slow Stevens down.

There are great fans within the RU fanbase and around the B1G and PSU is probably a 6 point favorite over RU at their place.

These aren't my suggestions or numbers, these are what people who know all the rosters currently view this year's rosters of both teams as of today. That doesn't mean RU wont get better, it has freshman that Vegas or others cannot properly evaluate. Usually it's everyone else that's "late to the party", while other fanbases believe programs come of nowhere and magically get better.

I wouldn't be surprised if RU swept PSU this year, if the freshman play well...but it would be surprising to the rest of the B1G or general public. The bar shouldn't be lowered by expecting or worrying if PSU loses, RU will be evaluated based on how well the freshman improve from November to March. Everyone on the roster except Doorson is back, while Reaves is a senior and Stevens is a junior. RU will be well positioned to pass PSU and others in the next year and beyond...I'd like to see that happen now, but confident we aren't going to be worrying about PSU 2 to 3 years from now.

 

[SirScarlet]

First I say in November where are the wins coming from and I get ridiculed now I’m saying we will get a few against penn st and get ridiculed. Cmon man! Lol

I pegged this season on the money have some faith in my next call

I see no reason why we don’t win at least one against penn st provided we don’t play Issa late in the game

You called the OSU upset?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Lamar Stephens has been awful the last month or so. They are a 14th place team with him not able to shoot.

If he figures it out they are a much better team.

If you follow Rutgers basketball you know how the story will go.

 

[RUonBrain]

Lamar Stephens has been awful the last month or so. They are a 14th place team with him not able to shoot.

If he figures it out they are a much better team.

If you follow Rutgers basketball you know how the story will go.

Career high for him next Saturday- lol

 

[RUsojo]

You called the OSU upset?

No. And believe it or not I am happy we won - a concept so few here want to believe. But as I said - OSU is going to finish 10th in our league. While I am happy we won I’m not stupid enough to think one win changes the season.

 

[RUonBrain]

I honestly am asking, because you always say "sense of urgency and accountability" about Rutgers becoming a winning program. What do you suggest we do? Does shouting and complaining on a message board make it happen faster? Do you really think Pikiell and crew aren't trying to win?

I actually think consistency and strategy are what this team needs. It, unfortunately, takes time, and resetting the clock won't make it happen any faster.

Totally agree.


@RUJMM78 -

Well?
What is your suggestion?
How do we show “a sense of urgency and accountability?”

Fire Pikiell?
Fire Hobbs?
Fire Barchi?
Fire the BOG?
Fire the governor?

 

[RUonBrain]

After finishing in 14th all 4 years, I would take 13th this year with no PG, 1 senior, and so many frosh playing as many minutes as they are.

It’s not much, but at least people couldn’t say, “Last place ever since joining the B1G.”

 

[SirScarlet]

No. And believe it or not I am happy we won - a concept so few here want to believe. But as I said - OSU is going to finish 10th in our league. While I am happy we won I’m not stupid enough to think one win changes the season.

Hahahaha. Ok...then maybe you dont know what "...pegging the season on the money..." means. Your words not mine.

For the record if you go back and look at my history I have said numerous times that I can't pinpoint where the wins will come from but I think we will not finish in the basement. You on the other hand just keep saying how the coaching staff - especially our head coach - is the wrong answer and will not get it done. Going so far as using inaccurate recruiting facts where you get called out / corrected by the mods (both Russ and Richie).

So back to my point... remind us all again why we should listen to you regarding Mens Basketball (which is what you state in your post)?

 

[phriar10]

He will likely be fired if they are under 500

Maybe your right but would be a major mistake in my opinion. The guy has done a decent job there he inherited a total disaster. Thing that hurt him this year was Robinson declaring early or they would have had a good year

 

[RU1-Newtown, Pa]

Let’s focus on Nebraska tomorrow night, 8pm at the RAC. Front and center.

Penn State is a week away.

Go RU!

 

[LOU-RU85]

Both games with PSU will be a dogfight - my guess is we split with them. They beat a very good Virginia Tech. Team so anyone counting the two games as automatic has not watched them play.

 

[RUsojo]

Hahahaha. Ok...then maybe you dont know what "...pegging the season on the money..." means. Your words not mine.

For the record if you go back and look at my history I have said numerous times that I can't pinpoint where the wins will come from but I think we will not finish in the basement. You on the other hand just keep saying how the coaching staff - especially our head coach - is the wrong answer and will not get it done. Going so far as using inaccurate recruiting facts where you get called out / corrected by the mods (both Russ and Richie).

So back to my point... remind us all again why we should listen to you regarding Mens Basketball (which is what you state in your post)?

Actually I had to call out Richie who posted an incorrect article and Russ, and others backed me up when it comes to my recruiting claim. Richie has yet to apologize for supporting his claim with an article that included mcclung as a commit but to his credit he did then say recruiting has not been good.

I have criticized Pikes results but have never said he won’t get it done here, have time and again said he is a good coach, but that if he doesn’t improve recruiting in 2020 I don’t think we’ll get to where we all want to be.

 

[Rutgers36]

Know we are all tired of waiting for a winning season but that is the way it is going to be. The EO injury really isn't helping and the freshman and Geohave been up and down and I hoped Kiss would give us a little more and Issa has had a rough year. I think with this year experience and adding Young and Mulcahy and only losing Shaq I think we get the winning season. How much winning I don't know

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

You called the OSU upset?

OSU wasn't an upset. I told everyone it would happen.:cookie:

 

[RUBigJ]

If EO doesn't play I don't think we will win. Stevens and Dread will kill us with 3's.

 

[SirScarlet]

OSU wasn't an upset. I told everyone it would happen.:cookie:

You and I have disagreed on issues in the past but I dont put you guys in the same category at all. I think you are much more balanced poster than him.

He keeps saying that he supports the bball team but virtually every single one of his posts is laced with some sort of "I want to be right about Pike being the wrong choice from the get-go" attitude. Its annoying.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

You and I have disagreed on issues in the past but I dont put you guys in the same category at all. I think you are much more balanced poster than him.

He keeps saying that he supports the bball team but virtually every single one of his posts is laced with some sort of "I want to be right about Pike being the wrong choice from the get-go" attitude. Its annoying.

well I felt that way about FHJ and Jordan and it was frustrating as hell (I am not sure why it bothers me?!?) that no one saw it like me.

 

[RU-ROCS]

People want instant oatmeal at RU, yet Pat Chambers is in his 8th year at PSU and winless in conference this season. His best year was last year, with a .500 record in conference. And, unlike Pike, who took over an abysmal bottom-feeder at RU, Chambers took over a PSU team in 2011 that went .500 in conference the previous year in 2010 and had a winning record (10-8) in conference in 2008.

I have to believe Chambers is now on the hot seat.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

What is done to the oats to make it instant oatmeal. I have always wondered that.

 

[Night Man]

It's telling that a few people are interpreting a 55% win prob in each of two games as a sign that we should sweep a team. Been so long since we've had a team that could reasonably be expected to sweep a last place team that no one remembers what it looks like.

 

[hoquat63]

What is done to the oats to make it instant oatmeal. I have always wondered that.

Same as they do to grits to make instant grits

 

[Local Shill]

We should sweep Penn St

They probably think they should sweep us.