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That sounds like an argument that we should be nearly throwing in the towel to slow, but not stop the bleeding. That's basically what RU did when they hired Flood. And I am not comparing Flood and Schiano.

If Rutgers is going to go for it and fire Ash, then go all the way at the next step.
The analogy I would use is that if you come home and your pipes have burst, you get the water turned off and fix the plumbing before you start replacing the drywall and repainting. I am worried that the last several years have done so much damage to the program that a completely new coach who needs to sell himself AND Rutgers won't be able to have success before they lose momentum because of on the field losses.

Here's another analogy. You don't get the same person to fix your money losing company as you do to take your successful small company and make it bigger. I think Rutgers may need a "turnaround CEO"before we can focus on growth.
 
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If I’m picking anyone that I think may be a reslistic choice, that’s my guy.

I think you're crazy to want Rich Rod. The rest of college football caught up to what was his offensive scheme advantage in the last 10 years and he has generally been just terrible defensively.

Not to mention, you'd be risking one public misstep after another.

Finally, if you think the politics of what is due to Ash is a hurdle, it would be a small part of what would happen with Rich Rod and his past.

Graham probably isn't a great fit for Rutgers either, but he'd have a better chance of being successful based on resume alone.
 

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I agree, but Greg may not have the juice and the stain he had during his first tour. His defense has been underwhelming this year with all of that talent. Also, the track record of 2.0 coaching tenures (Petrino, Edsall) is concerning. I respect everything Greg did here on his first go round. But it was a different time, a different AD and a different conference. Even so, if that is who Rutgers decides on, I will not be against the hire. I would just like to see Rutgers cast a wide net.

Yes RU should cast the widest net possible. Maybe some names surface that are not on the board today. We can hope.

What we may find out is that no successful P5 HC wants the job and most successful FBS coaches either don’t want to come to RU or are not equipped to be successful here. Our pool of candidates may be MAC type coaches and coordinators like Ash.

Matt Canada, interim at MD, looks like a strong candidate. Not sure if gets the job full time there, but he should certainly be available for RU to interview.
 
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no thanks to MAC coaches. Hes winning due to the QB. They also lost to ARMY.
Silly Rabbit, Tricks are for kids. Lance Leipold Fastest coach in NCAA history to 100 wins. Went undefeated 7 seasons at Whitewater-Wisconsin. Took over a struggling Buffalo Bulls program 4 years ago now they are undefeated in their conference and headed to the playoffs. I think LL is the real deal. He has a system and he can employ it at any level. If Rutgers does not give him a look, we deserve everything we get.
Hiring an established coach is no guarantee of success. Why not take a chance on a coach who has won at every program he has been HC? We have tried the hiring the wunderkind assistant coach thing several times with terrible results. Why not try hiring a successful HC coach from a lower level and see what he can do?
 

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Silly Rabbit, Tricks are for kids. Lance Leipold Fastest coach in NCAA history to 100 wins. Went undefeated 7 seasons at Whitewater-Wisconsin. Took over a struggling Buffalo Bulls program 4 years ago now they are undefeated in their conference and headed to the playoffs. I think LL is the real deal. He has a system and he can employ it at any level. If Rutgers does not give him a look, we deserve everything we get.
Hiring an established coach is no guarantee of success. Why not take a chance on a coach who has won at every program he has been HC? We have tried the hiring the wunderkind assistant coach thing several times with terrible results. Why not try hiring a successful HC coach from a lower level and see what he can do?

Have you listened to an interview? I think he would be a terrible fit for NJ. I can't even pay attention to him on Youtube. He's a lighter version of Jay Neimann.
 
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it makes zero sense to hire anyone but schiano because anyone else is going to be a huge risk. hiring schiano and playing a huge buyout makes sense, since the guy has done it here before. but schiano is going to want to get PAID. if we're not going to hire schiano, we're better off sticking with what we have.
Between his humiliation in the NFL and having UT fans riot when he was hired, my guess is Schiano can’t afford to be choosy if he wants to be a HC again.
 
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Everyone who wants Schiano back as the RU head coach needs to think about this for a minute,
Schiano's record in conference was 28 wins & 49 losses, this was in the Big East, not the B1G East!!!
Also he never beat WVU, Miami, BC or VT while they were in the conference
 

Knightmoves

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Everyone who wants Schiano back as the RU head coach needs to think about this for a minute,
Schiano's record in conference was 28 wins & 49 losses, this was in the Big East, not the B1G East!!!
Also he never beat WVU, Miami, BC or VT while they were in the conference

I don’t disagree with RU fans who think that we need to go with a younger version of Greg Schiano, but not the current day Greg.

I appreciate what he did for RU in the past but 2019 is not 2011. Time moves on and so does RU FB need to move on without Greg 2.0. Let Greg get his final HC gig somewhere else.
 

MADHAT1

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Hobbs should give Schiano strong consideration and have him as a candidate to consider, but not one of his top choices unless those top choices don't feel RU would be a good choice for them or their career.
So Rutgers needs to be ready to pay top dollar to help convince the coaches that are considered "top of the line" that Rutgers is finally willing to support their football program and HC in order to make the program one of the better ones in the B1G.
Failing to do that, Greg would be a great back of plan if he's willing to take less ( but with incentives that could raise it to a pretty good payday) to get back to being a HC and RU's P-5 status would help soften the lower salary than the top of the line candidates would demand .
 

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What about this is appealing?

and yes, I left out WVU because that was over 10 years ago and he's already proven how bad he was in the Big Ten (6-18 in conference at a much bigger/better program than us) and couldn't even succeed in an average Pac-12 after (24-30 in conference).

No thanks.
 
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Have you listened to an interview? I think he would be a terrible fit for NJ. I can't even pay attention to him on Youtube. He's a lighter version of Jay Neimann.
Yes, he is a lighter version of Jay Niemann, who all he knows how to do is build fvcking winning teams!
 
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How about the guy responsible for our entry into the B1G, stadium expansion, bowl games streak, upsets of top 10 teams, ranked 12th in 2006 and the reason we watched NFL level players here for years.

No good?
Now that Rutgers is once again college football's most pathetic and hopeless rebuilding project, Gary is the only logical choice for this turd hunt.

Could also be the first time that a head coach demanded - and got - the firing of a university president as a hiring condition.
 
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What about this is appealing?

and yes, I left out WVU because that was over 10 years ago and he's already proven how bad he was in the Big Ten (6-18 in conference at a much bigger/better program than us) and couldn't even succeed in an average Pac-12 after (24-30 in conference).

No thanks.
Sign me up for that.
 

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I have always been against Schiano coming back and also don't think that up until the Tenn fiasco, he would even have considered it. But I think even he realizes that the ONLY P5 school he could come to as a HC at this time IS Rutgers. His other choices to be HC would be to step down in levels and work his way back up. I don't think he wants to do that either.
Now, for Rutgers. I think most of us hoped to be at 6-8 wins at this point after hiring a new coach after Flood and seeing an uptick in recruiting, effort, behavior. But somehow, someway, this guy has dragged us down even further.
So, one of my reasons for not wanting Greg back was that I felt that while he could get us to that 6-8 mark maybe faster then any other HC we would bring in, that 6-8 wins would be the best he could do. Two years ago, that was not good enough for me.
Now, we need someone that can get us to 6-8 wins ASAP. Someone that we know can solidify the program and the lockerroom and who can at least get some respect in recruiting.
Unless Barchi is willing to pay $4mil in a HC and double the $$$ for assistants, the Gary seems to be our best choice at this time.
 

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I have always been against Schiano coming back and also don't think that up until the Tenn fiasco, he would even have considered it. But I think even he realizes that the ONLY P5 school he could come to as a HC at this time IS Rutgers. His other choices to be HC would be to step down in levels and work his way back up. I don't think he wants to do that either.
Now, for Rutgers. I think most of us hoped to be at 6-8 wins at this point after hiring a new coach after Flood and seeing an uptick in recruiting, effort, behavior. But somehow, someway, this guy has dragged us down even further.
So, one of my reasons for not wanting Greg back was that I felt that while he could get us to that 6-8 mark maybe faster then any other HC we would bring in, that 6-8 wins would be the best he could do. Two years ago, that was not good enough for me.
Now, we need someone that can get us to 6-8 wins ASAP. Someone that we know can solidify the program and the lockerroom and who can at least get some respect in recruiting.
Unless Barchi is willing to pay $4mil in a HC and double the $$$ for assistants, the Gary seems to be our best choice at this time.

I think 6-8 wins per season on a regular basis with the occasional 10 win season if things break right are realistic expectations for RU given being in the B1G east. There are coaches who could RU to that point.

GS is someone I would have confidence in given his track record here with recruiting and program building. Hiring him after this season makes sense for both sides. But, I doubt it happens because reducing the subsidy seems to be the primary goal of the administration and athletic dept.
 
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There's really a lot of good options out there right now