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RU#1fan

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Very, very wrong. 34-36,000 actual fannies in the seats.

Nope. It’s been documented that RU fudges Attendance by 40%.

Did you take a look at the Upper Decks ? 8000 open seats. That’s drops the max. Down to 42,000. You think there were only 6,000 empty seats in the lower Bowl ?
Get to your Optometrist fast...
 

Abro1975

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Nope. It’s been documented that RU fudges Attendance by 40%.

Did you take a look at the Upper Decks ? 8000 open seats. That’s drops the max. Down to 42,000. You think there were only 6,000 empty seats in the lower Bowl ?
Get to your Optometrist fast...

You’re still wrong, lol. Get to your proctologist, Fast! Your head up your butt is making your eyes cloudy w that brown stuff, you obviously can’t see straight, and now it’s also impairing your fecalized brain!
 

RU#1fan

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You’re still wrong, lol. Get to your proctologist, Fast! Your head up your butt is making your eyes cloudy w that brown stuff, you obviously can’t see straight, and now it’s also impairing your fecalized brain!

With your eyesight I hope you are not driving tonight. I feel bad for any cars near you.
 

RU#1fan

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:chairshot:
Thought all things considered nice crowd. Confident in 36,000 plus.

You still don’t get it.
RU announced 40,000 tickets distributed. You think 90% of these showed up ?
You couldn’t be more off.
 

Terry_2426

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Most sporting events have a 20-25% no show rate. I’m not saying Rutgers doesn’t “fudge” the number some but they’re not fudging it by 40%.
 
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WhiteBus

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Most sporting events have a 20-25% no show rate. I’m not saying Rutgers doesn’t “fudge” the number some but they’re not fudging it by 40%.
You are 100% right. Its not even close to 40%. It is 38.3% [eyeroll]

School Rutgers

Announced attendance 278,245

Scanned tickets 171,657

Scanned percentage 61.7%
 

Terry_2426

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Most sporting events have a 20-25% no show rate. I’m not saying Rutgers doesn’t “fudge” the number some but they’re not fudging it by 40%.
You are 100% right. Its not even close to 40%. It is 38.3% [eyeroll]

School Rutgers

Announced attendance 278,245

Scanned tickets 171,657

Scanned percentage 61.7%

Re-read my post. You’re talking about scanned tickets. Im talking about tickets sold. If I buy tickets and don’t show up, I’m not part of that 61.7% scanned number but my tickets are still going to be in the announced attendance report.

If the scanned percentage number is 38.3% lower than the announced attendance, and the typical no-show percentage per game is 20-25%, then Rutgers is fudging the number by about 15%, not 40%.
 

WhiteBus

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Re-read my post. You’re talking about scanned tickets. Im talking about tickets sold. If I buy tickets and don’t show up, I’m not part of that 61.7% scanned number but my tickets are still going to be in the announced attendance report.

If the scanned percentage number is 38.3% lower than the announced attendance, and the typical no-show percentage per game is 20-25%, then Rutgers is fudging the number by about 15%, not 40%.
No. Its scanned vs tickets out(annouced attendance), period. Tickets sold vs tickets given away is irrelevant. They are fudging the number by 38.3% go back to the articles posted on page 1 of this page.
 

Terry_2426

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Re-read my post. You’re talking about scanned tickets. Im talking about tickets sold. If I buy tickets and don’t show up, I’m not part of that 61.7% scanned number but my tickets are still going to be in the announced attendance report.

If the scanned percentage number is 38.3% lower than the announced attendance, and the typical no-show percentage per game is 20-25%, then Rutgers is fudging the number by about 15%, not 40%.
No. Its scanned vs tickets out(annouced attendance), period. Tickets sold vs tickets given away is irrelevant. They are fudging the number by 38.3% go back to the articles posted on page 1 of this page.

I’m not talking about sold tickets vs given away tickets. I’m saying that if someone buys tickets to a game, it’s not “fudging the number” by counting them in the attendance number. The ticket is sold.

If 25,000 people are in the stadium, 34,000 tickets were actually sold/bought, and Rutgers announces 40,000 in their attendance number, then they fudged the number by 6,000 not by 15,000.
 

WhiteBus

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I’m not talking about sold tickets vs given away tickets. I’m saying that if someone buys tickets to a game, it’s not “fudging the number” by counting them in the attendance number. The ticket is sold.

If 25,000 people are in the stadium, 34,000 tickets were actually sold/bought, and Rutgers announces 40,000 in their attendance number, then they fudged the number by 6,000 not by 15,000.
I know what you are saying. But attendance, people actually in the stadium, is how many tickets are scanned.
I have 2 tickets but worked today. I did not attend the game. Yes Rutgers got my money but you can not count that as me being in the building. Its what this thread and those articles are pointing out.
All sports do this. Turnstiles numbers used to be used but now include unused and freebies (whether used or not) to prop up figures. The NFL used to report scanned and no shows as seperate figures.
Navy is the only college that uses the true attendance figure. Tickets scanned and people in the building.
 

krup

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You are 100% right. Its not even close to 40%. It is 38.3% [eyeroll]

School Rutgers

Announced attendance 278,245

Scanned tickets 171,657

Scanned percentage 61.7%
There is definitely fewer people attending than the announced figure (especially games like today), but something is wrong with those numbers you posted. Keith Sargeant posted the game by game breakdown that adds up to that 171,000 number, and it has the Washington game as 28,000.

That's f**king crazy. There was absolutely more than 40,000 in the stands for Washington. The place was rocking in the first half.
 
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I know what you are saying. But attendance, people actually in the stadium, is how many tickets are scanned.
I have 2 tickets but worked today. I did not attend the game. Yes Rutgers got my money but you can not count that as me being in the building. Its what this thread and those articles are pointing out.
All sports do this. Turnstiles numbers used to be used but now include unused and freebies (whether used or not) to prop up figures. The NFL used to report scanned and no shows as seperate figures.
Navy is the only college that uses the true attendance figure. Tickets scanned and people in the building.

Why didn't you give your tickets to someone who can go enjoy the game?
 

WhiteBus

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There is definitely fewer people attending than the announced figure (especially games like today), but something is wrong with those numbers you posted. Keith Sargeant posted the game by game breakdown that adds up to that 171,000 number, and it has the Washington game as 28,000.

That's f**king crazy. There was absolutely more than 40,000 in the stands for Washington. The place was rocking in the first half.
Well Keith had nothing to do with WSJ article posted so I have no idea where he is getting his info.
 

krup

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Well Keith had nothing to do with WSJ article posted so I have no idea where he is getting his info.
The game by game numbers he posted added up to the 171,000 figure, so he must have gotten them from the people behind the WSJ story.

Either way something is off, because while the underlying point is correct and Rutgers has much fewer people attending than they announce for many games, no way they only had 28,000 attend for Washington and 33,000 for OSU.
 
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WhiteBus

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The game by game numbers he posted added up to the 171,000 figure, so he must have gotten them from the people behind the WSJ story.

Either way something is off, because while the underlying point is correct and Rutgers has much fewer people attending than they announce for many games, no way they only had 28,000 attend for Washington and 33,000 for OSU.
Yes. Something is off. You either announce tickets sold or tickets scanned, or both. None of the crap that is going on in all sports.
 

RU848789

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You need to read the weather thread - no rain is possible, but a few showers are absolutely possible and our fanbase melts easily. If the forecast the day before the game is drier and no rain falls before kickoff, I predict 40K. If the forecast remains iffy and there are a few showers before noon, then I predict 32K.

OFFICIAL attendance 40,124.

If we're following Price Is Right rules, I think I win...
 
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Colbert17!

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Start to win consistently and the place will fill up. Remember 10 years ago when kids would camp out for tickets? Lets win and those days will come back.

 
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WhiteBus

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If we're following Price Is Right rules, I think I win...
Congrats on finally nailing a forecast [cheers]
Since neither of us were at the game but have tickets did we attend the game or not?
Looking for a good sports bar outside OCNJ with great food try Charlies in Somers Point.
 

RU848789

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Congrats on finally nailing a forecast [cheers]
Since neither of us were at the game but have tickets did we attend the game or not?
Looking for a good sports bar outside OCNJ with great food try Charlies in Somers Point.
My tickets were used by a friend, so I guess I attended. Charlie's is a great bar - been there many times...
 

Letitrip

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What a silly debate - crowd was fine today given the opponent, our last few years record and the weekend - shoutout to the students! (Nice turn out and into the game.)

Always doubt the negative people who post about attendance during the game - most are in their mom's basement.
 
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