OT: Annual Tiger Woods Comeback Thread

Caliknight

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You said you don’t know of clubs that require pants. I gave you an example:

Bel Air is consider d by anyone who’s anyone annincredibel course. Hence it’s membership, including a number of touring pros.
 

WhiteBus

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You said you don’t know of clubs that require pants. I gave you an example:

Bel Air is consider d by anyone who’s anyone annincredibel course. Hence it’s membership, including a number of touring pros.
You said I played there in shorts. I didnt, never said I did. Any tour players that are members there arent paying a dime. They wouldn't use a driver on any hole there. Again you said it was a top 100 in the US. Its not. Not even top 30 in the State. Like many resturants in LA its a place to be seen. Doesn't make any of them great.
 

WhiteBus

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A better question and a serious one is how good is LA CC North? Off the radar since forever but went through a major renovation about 10 years ago and is now a top 25 course in the country. Now at a respectable 7200 yards. Has been selected for a US Open in 2023.
 

Caliknight

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You said I played there in shorts. I didnt, never said I did. Any tour players that are members there arent paying a dime. They wouldn't use a driver on any hole there. Again you said it was a top 100 in the US. Its not. Not even top 30 in the State. Like many resturants in LA its a place to be seen. Doesn't make any of them great.
BS. They are absolutely paying. DJ being the latest. The club has many people more wealthy and famous than any pro there. And they are all paying. Where were you a pro, some muni?
 

WhiteBus

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BS. They are absolutely paying. DJ being the latest. The club has many people more wealthy and famous than any pro there. And they are all paying. Where were you a pro, some muni?
Colonia CC. Proud of it too.
Tour pros don't pay most anywhere except Augusta.
 

Caliknight

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They pay there. Like everyone, including Tom Cruise, Nicholson, and so many more. Bel Air doesn’t need touring pros. They go through the same process as everyone. You can’t big shot your way into that group.

Boy did Tiger blow it today. Consistency. Goes with age. Young guys are just too good now.
 

wisr01

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Colonia CC. Proud of it too.
Tour pros don't pay most anywhere except Augusta.
Thomas Bendelow with a redesign by Hal Purdy who designed my local course. Can anyone tell me, without looking it up, another course Hal Purdy designed amongst his many works????
 
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WhiteBus

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Thomas Bendelow with a redesign by Hal Purdy who designed my local course. Can anyone tell me, without looking it up, another course Hal Purdy designed amongst his many works????
I like what you are doing here. Let's see how long it takes to get the answer.
 
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wisr01

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I like what you are doing here. Let's see how long it takes to get the answer.
Did you know Hal was Robert Trent Jones construction supervisor before striking out on his own? Also, Thomas Bendelow was extremely important to spreading golf here in the US back in late 1800s/early 1900s. If you can't tell I am fascinated by golf architecture and always feel like I am battling the designer in a game of chess. Yeah, I guess I am a little weird.
 

wisr01

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Rutgers. Hal Purdy has so many designs around the NJ/NJ/CT area.
Bingo. Nice job if you knew that without looking.

Also, I learned in this thread I am a total scrub because my home course is a local county public course named Sunset Valley. BTW, I am semi-retired and I am the Saturday morning starter there so if you drop by to play please say hello. My reward is I play every day of the week for free.
 

zappaa

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Baltusrol and Pine Valley were the last two clubs in NJ to finally allow shorts.
I’d say about 10 years ago.
Both are still very strict on socks, nothing above the ankle
 

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Bingo. Nice job if you knew that without looking.

Also, I learned in this thread I am a total scrub because my home course is a local county public course named Sunset Valley. BTW, I am semi-retired and I am the Saturday morning starter there so if you drop by to play please say hello. My reward is I play every day of the week for free.
I just played there this Friday. Had to skip 13 & 14 because the round was getting too long. it's short but all the holes are cut on the 45 degree slope. My only complaint is no range to warm up.
 

wisr01

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I just played there this Friday. Had to skip 13 & 14 because the round was getting too long. it's short but all the holes are cut on the 45 degree slope. My only complaint is no range to warm up.
What time did you go out on Friday? I went out 10:10 and finished at 2:30. Shot a 74 after bogeying the last two. Putting from below the hole is a must at SV. Also, trying to overpower the course usually does not end well.
 
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Caliknight

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This tournament is really showing the difference. It’s a shot makers course. Next gen is just better. This is an incredible era of golf. For all Tiger accomplished, it was a window between old guys going out and very few guys who could compete. Basically Phil and flavors of the month.

Tournaments are so good now. There are a legit 20 guys that can win.
 

Jtung230

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What time did you go out on Friday? I went out 10:10 and finished at 2:30. Shot a 74 after bogeying the last two. Putting from below the hole is a must at SV. Also, trying to overpower the course usually does not end well.
9:40ish....done by 12:40 after we skipped those 2 holes. Played my fastest round there 2:30 hrs once.
 

wisr01

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I used to play Farmstead a couple time a year. Up that way I like Bowling Green and Flanders Blue-White better.
I find the Blue to White non-descript and a little boring. I like the Gold to Red better. I like Farmstead but find it a little easy. Have you ever played Berkshire Valley? First five holes from the tips are so tough. Second hole is a 258-yd par 3 with OB left and right. Course rating is 73.3/133 from the tips.
 
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I find the Blue to White non-descript and a little boring. I like the Gold to Red better. I like Farmstead but find it a little easy. Have you ever played Berkshire Valley? First five holes from the tips are so tough. Second hole is a 258-yd par 3 with OB left and right. Course rating is 73.3/133 from the tips.

These days me playing from the tips would be a very bad joke. Red to Gold is nice too just not as good to me. I've only been to Berkshire once. Rained the whole time. We got as far as the 2nd? Par 3 on the front, maybe 140-150yds and gave up. Highlight of the day was a young bear scampering across one of the tees as we were getting out of the cart maybe 20 yards away. 3rd time it's happened and definitely the closest. Other times were Great Gorge and Fernwood in Pa,

Nicest NJ course I played a lot was Essex Co.
 
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wisr01

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These days me playing from the tips would be a very bad joke. Red to Gold is nice too just not as good to me. I've only been to Berkshire once. Rained the whole time. We got as far as the 2nd? Par 3 on the front, maybe 140-150yds and gave up. Highlight of the day was a young bear scampering across one of the tees as we were getting out of the cart maybe 20 yards away. 3rd time it's happened and definitely the closest. Other times were Great Gorge and Fernwood in Pa,

Nicest NJ course I played a lot was Essex Co.
I have encountered bear on the first 5 holes of Berkshire on at least 5 occasions. One time a mother was sunning with cubs on the 3rd hole...we skipped that hole!!! LOL
 
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wisr01

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These days me playing from the tips would be a very bad joke. Red to Gold is nice too just not as good to me. I've only been to Berkshire once. Rained the whole time. We got as far as the 2nd? Par 3 on the front, maybe 140-150yds and gave up. Highlight of the day was a young bear scampering across one of the tees as we were getting out of the cart maybe 20 yards away. 3rd time it's happened and definitely the closest. Other times were Great Gorge and Fernwood in Pa,

Nicest NJ course I played a lot was Essex Co.
Did you ever play Skyview?
 

Section124

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Bingo. Nice job if you knew that without looking.

Also, I learned in this thread I am a total scrub because my home course is a local county public course named Sunset Valley. BTW, I am semi-retired and I am the Saturday morning starter there so if you drop by to play please say hello. My reward is I play every day of the week for free.
I was going to guess your home course was Sunset Valley. Next time I play there I will look for you. I just read an article about Hal Purdy in the NJ Golf magazines. However I already knew he designed Rutgers as well as many of the courses I grew up on in Union and Bergen counties.
 
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Section124

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This tournament is really showing the difference. It’s a shot makers course. Next gen is just better. This is an incredible era of golf. For all Tiger accomplished, it was a window between old guys going out and very few guys who could compete. Basically Phil and flavors of the month.

Tournaments are so good now. There are a legit 20 guys that can win.
This weekend showed why it will be tough for Tiger to ever win a big event or a US Open. I don’t feel like going back in this thread but someone challenged my comment that only The Open will be Tiger’s best chance. I don’t see him winning PGA or Masters either. He just doesn’t have the putter anymore.
 

Section124

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I find the Blue to White non-descript and a little boring. I like the Gold to Red better. I like Farmstead but find it a little easy. Have you ever played Berkshire Valley? First five holes from the tips are so tough. Second hole is a 258-yd par 3 with OB left and right. Course rating is 73.3/133 from the tips.
Berkshire Valley is a fun course. As you said, those first five holes are tough. Bowling Green is owned by my friends family. Nice course as well.
 

Section124

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These days me playing from the tips would be a very bad joke. Red to Gold is nice too just not as good to me. I've only been to Berkshire once. Rained the whole time. We got as far as the 2nd? Par 3 on the front, maybe 140-150yds and gave up. Highlight of the day was a young bear scampering across one of the tees as we were getting out of the cart maybe 20 yards away. 3rd time it's happened and definitely the closest. Other times were Great Gorge and Fernwood in Pa,

Nicest NJ course I played a lot was Essex Co.
Played the 8th and a mama bear and 2 cubs were rolling around the green. I pretty much always see bears there. Fun and scary at the same time.
 
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WhiteBus

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I was going to guess your home course was Sunset Valley. Next time I play there I will look for you. I just read an article about Hal Purdy in the NJ Golf magazines. However I already knew he designed Rutgers as well as many of the courses I grew up on in Union and Bergen counties.
He has so many NJ courses on his resume. Many public. Was a very big name back in my early golf years. Loved @wisr01 questions this morning. Knew where he was going right away but liked that Purdy's name was brought up. He played some at Spring Meadow when I worked there, played with Vic Gerard the biggest golf cart supplier in MonmouthOcean Counties back then. Never got much past hello and how are you conversations. Regret not getting into bigger conversations later in life. I was young and not into the golf design part of the business. Wasted opportunity. Vic was a great guy. His son... not so much. No surprise that business declined after Vic Sr. passed.
 
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Did you ever play Skyview?
Played a member guest there last week. Shot a 77 and had closest to the PIN on 11. Won a free round so I will be playing there again.

Decent but short course. Not a fan of that 4th hole. I hit a great drive and reached the green in 2 by some miracle. I hate those gimmicky holes with the huge drops. That may be the largest drop I have seen around here.
 

WhiteBus

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Played a member guest there last week. Shot a 77 and had closest to the PIN on 11. Won a free round so I will be playing there again.

Decent but short course. Not a fan of that 4th hole. I hit a great drive and reached the green in 2 by some miracle. I hate those gimmicky holes with the huge drops. That may be the largest drop I have seen around here.
Bey Lea was a nice track to play and learn but the 18th was a stupid gimmick hole. Had to lay up before the pond off the tee. With today's improved technology just fly over now. Poorly designed hole.
 

knightfan7

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We should do a Scarlet Nation golf outing. I could set us up at Sunset but that would be a hike for a lot of folks. We could do Rutgers. Maybe we could get 6 to 8 foursomes. We could name it the Tiger Woods Comeback Scarlet Nation Golf Outing.

Well, I've been saying I stink long enough that I've likely sucked everyone in by now.

$50 Nassau?
 
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