Leveraging The 2018 Draft With Recruits

Panthergrowl13

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The point it makes is that if you are NFL potential- you have every opportunity to make it here as anywhere else. Plus, you may get on the field sooner to prove it. When we went a couple of years with virtually no one drafted, kids heard, yeah, you can get on the field sooner but that is only because the other players suck and what good does it do you if they can’t coach you up...


Putting players into the NFL is a major selling point in attracting quality recruits (talented Rival 3-Star guys) that you can train and develop.

Last year Pitt had 5 players drafted into the NFL (through 7 rounds) and this year as another poster pointed out Pitt had 3 players selected:

Brian O'Neill -OL- 2nd Round NFL Draft.
Jordan Whitehead-DB- 3rd Round NFL Draft
Avonte Maddox-DB-4th Round NFL Draft.

As ASH coaches and develops his recruits into NFL Draft Picks, recruiting will become easier for Rutgers.

Playing college games in front of larger home crowds becomes less important than playing in NFL games.;)

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 

czxqa

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Most of these high school kid dont care about what you did in the past. They are more concerned with what has this current staff done as far as winning games and getting players to the league. At least now they can say they have a track record. Btw are you sure about there being 20 plus alums currently in the league? I doubt that is accurate. As for the Schiano days, that has absolutely no bearing on current recruiting
Unfortunately, as much as we are proud of all our alums in the NFL, you're especially right when if our coaches make the "20 guys in the NFL" pitch, the next guy in that kid's living room is Greg Schiano from OSU telling them, "Yes, that's right, but I'm the guy that put most of them there."
 
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jcs321

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Putting players into the NFL is a major selling point in attracting quality recruits (talented Rival 3-Star guys) that you can train and develop.

Last year Pitt had 5 players drafted into the NFL (through 7 rounds) and this year as another poster pointed out Pitt had 3 players selected:

Brian O'Neill -OL- 2nd Round NFL Draft.
Jordan Whitehead-DB- 3rd Round NFL Draft
Avonte Maddox-DB-4th Round NFL Draft.

As ASH coaches and develops his recruits into NFL Draft Picks, recruiting will become easier for Rutgers.

Playing college games in front of larger home crowds becomes less important than playing in NFL games.;)

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Dude, Pitt was a 5-7 team last year and over the last 15 years have had similar success as Rutgers.

Get off your high horse trying to tell us that we need to do things the ‘Pitt Way’. Pitt is in a very similar situation to Rutgers right now, you are just too blind to see it. Actually I’d argue Rutgers has the significant long term advantage just by having an on campus stadium.

Narduzzi and Ash inherited completely different situations and yet both teams are pretty similar right now... your team isn’t some model for us to follow, you have won zero conference championships in 30+ years and haven’t had a HC stay more than 5 years in that time.

Why are you here anyway?
 

Retired711

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I think many of you are making this too hard. Having players drafted combats a negative message that rivals often use: that Rutgers doesn't send anyone at all to the NFL. I don't see how it does more than that. BTW, I got the impression for the Turay threads (and congrats to him) that the NFL scouts thought his technique was poor. So it sounds like he was drafted more for athleticism and measurables than on anything Rutgers coaching did for him.
 

realhoops2

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I think many of you are making this too hard. Having players drafted combats a negative message that rivals often use: that Rutgers doesn't send anyone at all to the NFL. I don't see how it does more than that. BTW, I got the impression for the Turay threads (and congrats to him) that the NFL scouts thought his technique was poor. So it sounds like he was drafted more for athleticism and measurables than on anything Rutgers coaching did for him.
The Colts scouts had a different opinion than these "NFL scouts" you referenced. Their GM stated that they feel Turay can contribute sooner than many think. As for his measurables, they were directly impacted by the first rate strength and conditioning program Ash/Parker have implemented. Scouts marveled at Turay's physical appearace.
 

red_sky

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Turay was a project when he came to RU and had played exactly one year of high school football. He wasn't one these 5 star kids that could just step right in and be a star. The fact that the coaching staff developed him and got him into the league says something.
 

RUDead

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I used to like Mayock, but after watching a listening to the draft, i think he's an idiot.

He also knew nothing about Turay. Seemed like he hadn't researched him at all.
 

TODDB33

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Was listening to xm 84 about 2 hours ago. They were interviewing Chase Goodfriend an NFL Draft analyst from what I could gather. One question by Racel Barbeau was how important is it to recruiting to see how many kids get drafted by X school. He said it was important both ways for recruiting 1 kids want to see others being drafted from schools they have an interest in and 2 coaches can tell recruits we can get you in the league. So I guess it does play more of a part then some may think
 

realhoops2

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Was listening to xm 84 about 2 hours ago. They were interviewing Chase Goodfriend an NFL Draft analyst from what I could gather. One question by Racel Barbeau was how important is it to recruiting to see how many kids get drafted by X school. He said it was important both ways for recruiting 1 kids want to see others being drafted from schools they have an interest in and 2 coaches can tell recruits we can get you in the league. So I guess it does play more of a part then some may think
Of course it matters. All the top players have been dreaming of it since Pop Warner. A program having kids drafted may not be the primary reason a recruit commits but having no players drafted will almost certainly prevent some recruits from committing.
 
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WhiteBus

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Of course it matters. All the top players have been dreaming of it since Pop Warner. A program having kids drafted may not be the primary reason a recruit commits but having no players drafted will almost certainly prevent some recruits from committing.
Ha reminds me of those that swore uniforms are such an important recruiting tool. Some of of you are completely clueless.
 

Big East Beast

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Dude, Pitt was a 5-7 team last year and over the last 15 years have had similar success as Rutgers.

Get off your high horse trying to tell us that we need to do things the ‘Pitt Way’. Pitt is in a very similar situation to Rutgers right now, you are just too blind to see it. Actually I’d argue Rutgers has the significant long term advantage just by having an on campus stadium.

Narduzzi and Ash inherited completely different situations and yet both teams are pretty similar right now... your team isn’t some model for us to follow, you have won zero conference championships in 30+ years and haven’t had a HC stay more than 5 years in that time.

Why are you here anyway?

He’s been posting here since the Big East days and like the rest of us enjoys how active & passionate the RU community is.

It’s good to have outside perspective- I think that’s all he was trying to share.
 

Retired711

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He’s been posting here since the Big East days and like the rest of us enjoys how active & passionate the RU community is.

It’s good to have outside perspective- I think that’s all he was trying to share.

I think he is a troll who is simply out to make us think that his school is great -- that's why he attaches "Hail Pitt" to every post.
 
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TODDB33

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Ha reminds me of those that swore uniforms are such an important recruiting tool. Some of of you are completely clueless.
Are you saying your clueless? No one said it is the be all and end all for recruiting. An NFL analyst made a comment based on first hand knowledge due I interacions wih recruits but you say he is clueless. OK now for sure you proved yourself to be the one who is clueless.
 

RU2055

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Unfortunately, as much as we are proud of all our alums in the NFL, you're especially right when if our coaches make the "20 guys in the NFL" pitch, the next guy in that kid's living room is Greg Schiano from OSU telling them, "Yes, that's right, but I'm the guy that put most of them there."

Chris Ash has just as many players in the NFL, if not more, than Greg Schiano.
 
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RUTrack94

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If you believe these kids are so confident they will see playing time where ever they go than why would it be so important that Rutgers has people that get drafted? If they are that good to start anywhere they should make the NFL no matter where they play. A complete contradiction of your opinion.
Look at the draft. Kids get drafted from all types of schools. NFL teams don't pass on talent because the team they played for didn't have enough draft picks the year before. This viewpoint is almost irrelevant. And way down the list as a deciding factor.
And Australia ...
 

Knight Shift

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Unfortunately, as much as we are proud of all our alums in the NFL, you're especially right when if our coaches make the "20 guys in the NFL" pitch, the next guy in that kid's living room is Greg Schiano from OSU telling them, "Yes, that's right, but I'm the guy that put most of them there."

You could make a good case for McNulty putting several of those players in the NFL, as many were offensive players.
Brian Leonard
Jeremy Zuttah
Ray Rice
Tiquan Underwod
Mike Teel
Kenny Britt
 

Panthergrowl13

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I think he is a troll who is simply out to make us think that his school is great -- that's why he attaches "Hail Pitt" to every post.


Not really.

I have been on this board (as previous poster pointed out) since the Big East days.

My posts have never mocked, maligned or denigrated Rutgers as a University or an individual poster.

I have many fond memories of New Jersey having visited the state many times and as a young child on vacation to all shore points in South Jersey for over 20 years.

To clarify, when I mention the Pitt way I am actually commenting on the "Narduzzi Way" and looking at the similarities/differences that Narduzzi/Ash employ in resurrecting our respective programs.

As to your comment on my use of "Hail to Pitt", it is a signature statement(I use it on all my posts) and in no way implies that I consider Pitt superior to Rutgers.

Similar to someone using "Rutgers where college football began" as a signature statement by a Rutgers poster.

Some people on the board are "Thin Skinned" but I have broken no Rival Board posting rules.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 

RUDead

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Panthergrowl is all right in my book. Brings a Pitt perspective w/o being an A hole. I wish some fans from other teams would do that as well, makes it more interesting. Syracuse fans tend to be a bunch of annoying weasels and PSU fans are total a holes.
 
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Retired711

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Not really.

I have been on this board (as previous poster pointed out) since the Big East days.

My posts have never mocked, maligned or denigrated Rutgers as a University or an individual poster.

I have many fond memories of New Jersey having visited the state many times and as a young child on vacation to all shore points in South Jersey for over 20 years.

To clarify, when I mention the Pitt way I am actually commenting on the "Narduzzi Way" and looking at the similarities/differences that Narduzzi/Ash employ in resurrecting our respective programs.

As to your comment on my use of "Hail to Pitt", it is a signature statement(I use it on all my posts) and in no way implies that I consider Pitt superior to Rutgers.

Similar to someone using "Rutgers where college football began" as a signature statement by a Rutgers poster.

Some people on the board are "Thin Skinned" but I have broken no Rival Board posting rules.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Ok, you're not a troll.
 
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