Going into Sunday's game vs Illinois

[Knights 1212]

I think we will finish at #12 if we should win on Sunday. If we lose we will be #13 or #14. If we lose and Iowa should defeat Northwestern than Iowa would also finish ahead of us. If Iowa should lose we would still get #13 as we would own the tie breaker over them. Minnesota already has 4 wins and they hold a tie breaker over us. The records going into Sunday are: Minnesota 4-13, Illinois is 3-14, Iowa is 3-14 and RU is 3-14. I just hope we can win for the seniors and avoid the cellar. Minnesota holds the tie breaker over Illinois as a result of beating them 77-69 early in the season.

 

[DHajekRC84]

We need to win for the program, the fans, to defend our home court, and to get some much needed MO going into Wed.

 

[BigEastPhil]

If Baker plays and can contribute, we will defeat Illinois on Sunday.....I think we have some revenge motivation going into the game based on how Illinois killed us several weeks ago and I also thought the prior game was a bit chippy

 

[Knights 1212]

Iowa also holds a tie breaker over Illinois because they defeated Illinois 104-97. So if we win we should get #12 and would play Iowa as I see things. If we lose and Iowa should defeat Northwestern I think we would finish at #14 and would play #11 Minnesota. I could be wrong but I think this is correct.

 

[Local Shill]

You’re correct, knights1212.

The Targum had a good breakdown of the scenarios today.

http://www.dailytargum.com/article/2018/02/rutgers-mens-basketball-big-ten-tournament-scenarios

 

[TobyTyler1]

NW is not beating Iowa at their place to end the season. NW can't end this season fast enough.

 

[shields]

Beat Illinois.

 

[NJDOVES]

I like the fact that Illinois played Purdue tough last night (down by only 5 at the half) and was actually leading several times in the second half, only to loose by ten. That had to be deflating! I hope they come in here Sunday tired and flat!

 

[RUChoppin]

I like the fact that Illinois played Purdue tough last night (down by only 5 at the half) and was actually leading several times in the second half, only to loose by ten. That had to be deflating! I hope they come in here Sunday tired and flat!

Sunday will be their 4th game in 8 days... and Frazier has played 103 min over the last 3 (34.3/g). Really hoping he has trouble getting his legs under his shot in the second half. He has shot 11/52 (.211) in conference games after 3 or fewer days rest (11.4 ppg), and 29/60 (.483) on 4 or more days rest (17.8 ppg).

And speaking of home/away 3P% disparities.... Frazier has shot 30/70 (.429) in Champaign (17.4 ppg), and 10/42 (.238) everywhere else (11.0).

In his four away conference games on short rest, he's shot 3/18 (.167) and averaged 8.5 pts.

Really hoping for a similarly tough night for Frazier, and a strong night for Corey.

 

[NJDOVES]

Nice stats, I also worry about #2 Nickols! He lit us up last outing.

 

[RUChoppin]

Nice stats, I also worry about #2 Nickols! He lit us up last outing.

Still, stats are just past performance and not predictive. Just hoping his trend of struggling from range on the road and on shorter rest continues - if there were to be a game that he'd overcome those woes, it would definitely be our luck that it'd happen on Sunday afternoon.

 

[DHajekRC84]

so basically Iowa will determine which game we play on Day 1 and our results won't matter...other than to determine if we can finish #12 (which would be good for optics).

 

[RUChoppin]

so basically Iowa will determine which game we play on Day 1 and our results won't matter...other than to determine if we can finish #12 (which would be good for optics).

Not really. We still control our Day 1 opponent.

If we win, we will pretty much be guaranteed to play Iowa in a 12 vs. 13 matchup.
If we lose, we could play either Minnesota (as a 13 seed) or Illinois (as the 14th seed), depending on the Iowa game.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Not really. We still control our Day 1 opponent.

If we win, we will pretty much be guaranteed to play Iowa in a 12 vs. 13 matchup.
If we lose, we could play either Minnesota (as a 13 seed) or Illinois (as the 14th seed), depending on the Iowa game.

yeah but I was talking about game 1 or game 2, not who we play. We're in 12 v 13 if we win or if Iowa loses. We're in 14 v. 11 if Iowa wins.

 

[RUChoppin]

yeah but I was talking about game 1 or game 2, not who we play. We're in 12 v 13 if we win or if Iowa loses. We're in 14 v. 11 if Iowa wins.

If we win, we're in the 12 v. 13 game no matter what happens with Iowa.

Our outcomes are:
12th - RU wins, Iowa wins (Minnesota, Rutgers, Iowa, Illinois)
12th - RU wins, Iowa loses (Minnesota, Rutgers, Iowa, Illinois)
13th - RU loses, Iowa loses (Minnesota, Illinois, Rutgers, Iowa)
14th - RU loses, Iowa wins (Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Rutgers)

No matter what, Minnesota will be the 11th seed.

 

[RUChoppin]

Another interesting stat re: conference games:

Offense:
Indiana has scored 75.8 ppg in home games (regulation minutes), and 63.5 in away games... scoring 12.3 fewer ppg on the road.
Rutgers has scored 58.9 ppg in home games (regulation minutes), and 53.9 ppg in away games.... scoring 5.0 more ppg at home.

Defense
Indiana has allowed 77.1 ppg at home, and 74.0 away... oddly, they allow more 3.1 more points at home.
Rutgers has allowed 64.1 ppg at home, and 72.2 away... allowing 8 fewer ppg at home.

 

[DHajekRC84]

If we win, we're in the 12 v. 13 game no matter what happens with Iowa.

Our outcomes are:
12th - RU wins, Iowa wins (Minnesota, Rutgers, Iowa, Illinois)
12th - RU wins, Iowa loses (Minnesota, Rutgers, Iowa, Illinois)
13th - RU loses, Iowa loses (Minnesota, Illinois, Rutgers, Iowa)
14th - RU loses, Iowa wins (Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Rutgers)

No matter what, Minnesota will be the 11th seed.

ok, so LETS FREAKIN WIN then

 

[NJDOVES]

I’d love for us to beat Illinois and play Iowa! I think we match up very well against them. (Iowa)