correct. There are a lot of factors. they will always have a huge advantage over us.
However, I still think we can beat them every now and then. No team is unbeatable.
How do we better compete with Penn State?
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correct. There are a lot of factors. they will always have a huge advantage over us.
However, I still think we can beat them every now and then. No team is unbeatable.
No, but it is as "simple" as sustained winning, and I don't mean 7-5 or 8-4 seasons. To compete with the behemoths in the B1G, RU needs to up its game to 9 and 10 win seasons. A tall order but that's where it's at to push teams like OSU/PSU.
This is lost on a lot of people. Programs that win National Championships recruit 4 and 5 star players, but they PLAY like 4 and 5 star players are expected to play at the college level. That's all about coaching.
The people in the living room would be paying so much attention to the 5 (or more) Super Bowl rings he'd be wearing that they wouldn't notice.
Is that the Official Penn St shower motto, or just what the PSU seniors tell the freshmen the first time they soap up. ?
Its suppose to grow. Your not a blueblood program. They have a 100,000 seat stadium. Get a clue guy. Get good players that fit your system, develop them and when some disgruntled former 5 star who isn't getting playing time tells the NCAA some bs or girls are getting raped, you get them on the field. That's how it works.
This is flat out nonsense. This isn't a ten year plan. We're not blueblood, but we should be far more competitive than we are. We had more talent in 2006 than we do in 2018, and that's a fact, and a lot of it is because players just haven't panned out yet, coaches made poor choices in regards to the geographic areas they chose to recruit, and assistants that were hired, which made it more difficult to succeed. Specifically, We used to pull a significant amount of talent from Florida, but this coaching staff, chose not to do so, which ultimately has hurt the talent level and depth of the team.
In 2006 we had:
- Ray Rice (Pro Bowl RB)
- Brian Leonard (played for cincinnati bengals back in the day)
- Kenny Britt (New England WR)
- Devin McCourty (starting safety for New England)
- Eric Foster (played for Colts)
I look at our roster today, and I see zero Ray Rices, zero Kenny Britts, and zero Devin McCourtys, despite three recruiting classes in. This is unacceptable given the benefit of Big Ten Conference, better facilities than what we had in place in 2006, and our NJ talent base, which the current staff has not sufficiently mined. With all the talent in NJ, and this staff can only get 4 Commits? Come ON!!
I'm still optimistic, but this coaching staff has to pick up the pace. Its year 3 and we still don't know if we have an adequate quarterback, running backs, a big 10 caliber offensive line, and a big 10 defensive line, or wide receivers. Year 5, decision year, is coming up fast.
You missed a few more my man...These guys were all recruited and developed when we were losing in the BE. I don't want to hear that it can't be done by some guy that doesn't know much about Rutgers. That is 15 future NFL players on our roster at one time. Yeah- it isn't Bama but it is pretty damn impressive and why I don't give up hope.
Stephenson (OL Jacksonville)
Zuttah (10 year Career OL)
Stapleton (SB Champ C with Steelers)
Haslam (OL JAcksonville/Chargers)
Clark Harris (10 year NFL All Pro this year)
Ti Underwood(NFL WR)
C Greene (Jacksonville DB)
George Johnson (NFL DE)
Renkart(NFL LB)
J McCourty(NFL CB)
2001: 2-9
2002: 1-11
2003: 5-7
In 2003, RU lost to a bunch of mediocre 8-5 teams, except for 11-2 Miami. In 2017, we had Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Washington and Penn State on the schedule. Is that a "benefit" of the Big Ten conference you were referring to?
Mike Teel arrived in 2005 and things took off.
Ash's QB cupboard was barren when he arrived. So was the WR cupboard. The parallels to Schiano's early years are stark.
Lewis just his feet wet last year. Ash did the best he could bringing in a couple of grad transfer QBs who did not pan out. We now have Sitkowski, Chatman, Flacco and Gio on staff for a real competition. And we finally have a real OC. No disrespect to Jerry Kill. Great guy, great head coach, but had been a lot of years since he called plays. I wish he had stayed to be a senior advisor to Ash, and I hope Ash took copious notes while Jerry was here.
I expect this year to be like 2004, 2019 to be like 2005 and 2020--boom!!!
Ray Rice (Pro Bowl RB)--SOPHOMORE SUPERSTAR
- Brian Leonard (played for cincinnati bengals back in the day)--SENIOR
- Kenny Britt (New England WR)--FRESHMAN
- Devin McCourty (starting safety for New England)--FRESHMAN
- Eric Foster (played for Colts)--JUNIOR
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I may have some of their grade years wrong above, but the point of is a very large majority of the players you and @rutgeral listed were JUNIORS or SENIORS, and Ray Rice was a diamond in the rough phenom, and Greene flashed early.
The most important cogs in 2006 were obviously Rice and Teel and Leonard, and the swarming defense. The WRs corps was not that productive with Harris (TE) leading in receiving yards followed by Britt, and nobody had more than 500 receiving yards.
A true optimist could make the case that RU is poised to have a breakout year in 2019, should one of our young QBs flash early, and Blackshear has numbers that continue to climb and we get some decent production from our TEs and WRs. Our defense is fairly solid, and would look even better if they were not on the field for 70% of the games against Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State and Michigan. That last sentence is likely an exaggeration.
I still maintain the parallels to Schiano's early years are there.
First of all, you didn't get good until Miami, VT, and BC left. Even after they left you never won anything and West Virginia dominated that water down big east. You are in the Big Ten East where all 7 teams are ranked in the top 45 in recruiting, 5 in the top 25, 2 in the top 5.
Interesting how that didn't make all that much difference in Rutgers' records in the subsequent years to the departure, seeing as Rutgers still ended up losing each year to at least 1 or 2 of the three new teams added (Louisville, Cincinnati, South Florida). Rutgers never went undefeated against that group in any year, but did lose to all three in 2010.