Michigan vs Rutgers / Game Thread

whofrewdatmataRU13

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The play of the game for me was Freeman going coast to coast with numbers, doesn't pass it and goes up wild. Gets his own rebound with a fresh shot clock and goes back up into a double team with another wild shot.

GO RU
 

NewJerseyHawk

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Fans act as if winning road conference games is standard practice when it absolutely isn't or close to it. I would venture to guess even the NCAA caliber teams are probably winning less than 10% of their road games against other NCAA caliber teams.

My guess would be a good B1G is 6--3 or 7-2 @ home and 2-7 to 3-6 in B1G road games to get to a 9-9, 10-8 or 11-7 overall league record.

RU's path long term is to make themselves competitive at home and to make the home courr tough to win some close games against similar or better teams.

Road games against Penn State and at Illinois offer a chance to get 1 if we play well...and there is a fair whistle.....I know it will be deemed must wins for those teams as well....just like RU hosting Nebraska on Wednesday.
 

fluoxetine

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Nov 11, 2012
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I would venture to guess even the NCAA caliber teams are probably winning less than 10% of their road games against other NCAA caliber teams.

There's no way it is this severe. The average home court advantage is somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 points, which would imply a home winning percentage of 60-65% assuming evenly matched teams.

It's a significant advantage, but nothing on the order of 90/10.
 

RUChoppin

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There's no way it is this severe. The average home court advantage is somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 points, which would imply a home winning percentage of 60-65% assuming evenly matched teams.

It's a significant advantage, but nothing on the order of 90/10.

Might be close. The qualifier was "versus other NCAA tournament teams"... so, the "average" home court advantage doesn't really apply.

Looking at the top 8 in our conference right now, and their road records against themselves:
Purdue: 2-0
OSU: 1-0
MSU: 0-1
Michigan: 1-2
Nebraska: 0-2
Indiana: 0-2
Maryland: 0-3
Wisconsin: 0-1

They went a combined 4-11 (27%)... if you take out Purdue (who is projected as a Final Four team), that's 2-11 (15%).
 

RUChoppin

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Not quite 70% and on a continuous decline:

“So there you have it. The home team is winning at a lower clip this season than at any time in the last 20 years. Not only that, the trend line is quite clear, particularly in the last eight years.”

https://www.si.com/college-basketba...-home-court-advantage-baylor-kansas-villanova

Curious what the true data is on tourney teams vs. other tourney teams.

Looking at last year's 7 B1G tourney team records on the road vs. other tourney teams. Overall, the B1G tourney teams went 12-16 on the road against each other (43%) and 1-7 against tourney teams from other conferences (13%)... for a total of 13-23 (36%).

So, the 90/10 guesstimate didn't hold true for B1G teams in the 2016-17 season, at least.
 

BoxStater

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Curious what the true data is on tourney teams vs. other tourney teams.

Looking at last year's 7 B1G tourney team records on the road vs. other tourney teams. Overall, the B1G tourney teams went 12-16 on the road against each other (43%) and 1-7 against tourney teams from other conferences (13%)... for a total of 13-23 (36%).

So, the 90/10 guesstimate didn't hold true for B1G teams in the 2016-17 season, at least.

Yes, I’m curious too, and I suspect that home court advantage for Tourney vs Tourney would be around 55-60%.

Besides skill level and coaching, I think elite athletes got used to playing away from the comfort of home during AAU in high school along with the big emphasis and role of sports psychology nowadays, which tries to instill the coping skills to deal with playing in hostile environments.
 
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