The reality about this team

knight82

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They are just good enough to be able to give just about anybody a game on a given night IF and this is a big if, they play their butts off for forty minutes. However, they are not good enough to just go through the motions against ANYBODY. We should have won that game going away but we are not good enough to make up for not being the team that goes after every rebound and loose ball. Stony Brook played like they wanted that game way more than we did. There is not a game left on our schedule (including Hartford, just see what happened last year) where we can just say "that should be a win". But we can win our share if we play with intensity. I've heard from a few people that Pike was really pissed after that game. Hopefully, the players learned a very painful lesson and will not come out and play like that again this year.
 

Degaz-RU

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Dec 19, 2002
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Makes sense. There are lots of different skills in basketball:

1. Shooting
2. Dribbling
3. Rebounding
4. Defense

We don’t do #1 very well, so we have to do #s 3 and 4 really well to have any chance of winning games.

Very simple.
 

RUJMM78

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Jul 25, 2001
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They are just good enough to be able to give just about anybody a game on a given night IF and this is a big if, they play their butts off for forty minutes. However, they are not good enough to just go through the motions against ANYBODY. We should have won that game going away but we are not good enough to make up for not being the team that goes after every rebound and loose ball. Stony Brook played like they wanted that game way more than we did. There is not a game left on our schedule (including Hartford, just see what happened last year) where we can just say "that should be a win". But we can win our share if we play with intensity. I've heard from a few people that Pike was really pissed after that game. Hopefully, the players learned a very painful lesson and will not come out and play like that again this year.
Teams that are offensively challenged can't have off days on defense and rebounding against any opponent.Sadly,this disappointing loss might be the difference between a winning/losing season.There are no easy games for Rutgers in the B1G.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Dec 30, 2005
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We are statistically the worst offensive team in the major conference. In fact if it weren't for g tech no one would be even close to us.

You have to bring in all other areas.

At some point you have to start to allocate blame for being bad at offense. Players/coaches combination of both. Can't give players and coaches free ride here.
 
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BoxStater

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We are statistically the worst offensive team in the major conference. In fact if it weren't for g tech no one would be even close to us.

You have to bring in all other areas.

At some point you have to start to allocate blame for being bad at offense. Players/coaches combination of both. Can't give players and coaches free ride here.[/QUOTE

I definitely agree with this. As great as Pike and the coaching staff are on Defense, I think there’s a need for improvement by them as far as coaching the offense.
 

RUJMM78

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Rebounding and defense are coachable areas.Shooting is a recruiting skillset which for Rutgers has been difficult to find and to retain those players before they transfer to another school.
 

RUich

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We beat SHU because we out hustled them. We lost to SB because they out hustled us. As already noted, we will not out shoot many teams, so you just have to want to win more than they do. If we cannot see them do this in the next game, we are probably not going to be too happy in conference play.
 

bac2therac

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We are statistically the worst offensive team in the major conference. In fact if it weren't for g tech no one would be even close to us.

You have to bring in all other areas.

At some point you have to start to allocate blame for being bad at offense. Players/coaches combination of both. Can't give players and coaches free ride here.
We are statistically the worst offensive team in the major conference. In fact if it weren't for g tech no one would be even close to us.

You have to bring in all other areas.

At some point you have to start to allocate blame for being bad at offense. Players/coaches combination of both. Can't give players and coaches free ride here.


Pike can only do so much to mask our talent defiencies. Not going to blame him at all although I believe he coached a poor game vs Stony Brook. He is saddled with a player that he didnt recruit that is at times our best player but other times isnt really all that into it. His hardest working player a senior that he also didnt recruit is flat out a bad shooter no matter how many people say that his shots will eventually fall
 
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BoxStater

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Rebounding and defense are coachable areas.Shooting is a recruiting skillset which for Rutgers has been difficult to find and to retain those players before they transfer to another school.

Shooting is a coachable area as well, just like rebounding and defense. Steph curry & Ray Allen needed coaching & adjustments with their shot.

“Ray Allen calls it "an insult" when his shooting is labeled a God-given talent. "God could care less whether I can shoot a jump shot," Allen toldTheBoston Globein 2008. Shooters aren’t born; they’re made through relentless work. But the best shooters also have core mechanisms — physically and mentally — that lead to success.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ches-kent-bazemore-kawhi-leonard-8660e9939680
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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Pike can only do so much to mask our talent defiencies. Not going to blame him at all although I believe he coached a poor game vs Stony Brook. He is saddled with a player that he didnt recruit that is at times our best player but other times isnt really all that into it. His hardest working player a senior that he also didnt recruit is flat out a bad shooter no matter how many people say that his shots will eventually fall

You may be right OR maybe the staff could be doing something different.
 
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RUsince52

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We are statistically the worst offensive team in the major conference. In fact if it weren't for g tech no one would be even close to us.

You have to bring in all other areas.

At some point you have to start to allocate blame for being bad at offense. Players/coaches combination of both. Can't give players and coaches free ride here.
We need to hire one guy who can be an offensive coordinator in football and basketball to fix the problems.
 

richthedentist

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You may be right OR maybe the staff could be doing something different.


I think its imperative the team finish over 500 this year, the other way could see 2 or 3 conference wins
I agree our offense has very little motion and off the ball screens we are very reliant on one on one play which many times leads to the clock running down and rushed or bad shots
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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Shooting is a coachable area as well, just like rebounding and defense. Steph curry & Ray Allen needed coaching & adjustments with their shot.

“Ray Allen calls it "an insult" when his shooting is labeled a God-given talent. "God could care less whether I can shoot a jump shot," Allen toldTheBoston Globein 2008. Shooters aren’t born; they’re made through relentless work. But the best shooters also have core mechanisms — physically and mentally — that lead to success.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ches-kent-bazemore-kawhi-leonard-8660e9939680
Can't like this enough. Teams that win lots of games at any level are adept at rebounding and defense, but they also shoot the ball well. If you are predominantly a half court team, you will not succeed if you have players who can't shoot.
 
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Caliknight

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This team is severely limited. They can only win with rebounding and defense. They don't possess the other important skill of shooting and scoring the ball.

If they don't outwork their opponent, whoever that is, they will lose.
 

Scarlet83

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Makes sense. There are lots of different skills in basketball:

1. Shooting
2. Dribbling
3. Rebounding
4. Defense

We don’t do #1 very well, so we have to do #s 3 and 4 really well to have any chance of winning games.

Very simple.

In your breakdown, you really need to add passing. After all, one are we came up woefully short is inbounding. And inbounding the basketball is essentially a pass.

I believe Gio is our best passer, and should be inbounding the basketball when there is pressure.
 
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