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Disagree on the condition that we replace his scholarship with another ball-handler. For all his athleticism he is not an efficient scorer and I'm willing to trade off some pure athleticism for more efficiency (aka someone who can make a jump shot).
Isn’t Geo 17? And his first big time game, national TV, against a big-time a pony? Just stop. Even the announcers, who were anti-Scarlet Knights an anti-big 10 the entire game, couldn’t stop talking about Geo’s potential from here on out.
Silly.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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Agreed but geo's more of a SG than a ball handling PG imo
Kyk
I enjoy your stuff but you are continually over the top/
Corey is a difference maker...which in of itself is why we want him back for a 4th year
Period
Nothing to do with geo's game who is going to be very damn good for us, despite a rough game tonight
I enjoy your stuff but you are continually over the top/
Corey is a difference maker...which in of itself is why we want him back for a 4th year
Period
Nothing to do with geo's game who is going to be very damn good for us, despite a rough game tonight
Let’s dial it down a little bit. I get that we’re thin at point guard, but our coaches are good at player development.
KYK, actually, he has shown himself to be a more adept passer than Corey in the Cakewalk Games. He played quite a bit at the point, allowing Corey to set up for shots. Geo, at this point, is a combo guard. Next year, he may be PG, and if Corey can resist the lure of playing in Bolivia, Corey may be SG for good.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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Im talking strictly about ball handling. Geo is going to be our only ball handler on the team next year. He cant play 35 minutes a game from november to march
I tend to agree, IF this was the standard matchup of the B1G.....I started a separate thread of the horses in the ACC....
The roster is built to account for 20 B1G games plus a potential 2 to 3 B1G conference tournament games as well....in the B1G, you need size, strength and shooting that is designed for the leagues opponents.....
The ACC is now ahead 6-1 in the matchups against the B1G.....the point spreads were perhaps a little wrong, but the matchups are just not ideal.
When the pace of the game is slowed down, the players are going to be asked to make the extra pass, find shooters, rebound.....seeing a CJ Walker is not the norm.....Corey and Eugene are better suited for and up and down contest.....that however may not translate to the bulk of the B1G matchups of Wisconsin, Michigan, etc....in those games, it may show up where Corey struggles against a zone and Baker thrives in a more controlled pace....Eugene may also struggle against teams that clog the paint and don't allow driving lanes...perhaps those teams sag off Eugene and make him make jumpers.....
The ACC is the Athletic Coast Conference.........matchups matter in basketball....just keep that in mind as the go through the league.
Please don't turn the basketball board into a screaming hyperbole fest. We like it here.
I am with Shack, we need Corey because he is a playmaker that will be a senior and of course we need that. I do think though there are some ways that this team could improve and survive and even thrive without him.
FSU is an athletic team that should never play zone despite their length. The fact that they played so many possessions in zone tells you a ton.
Can you win in college basketball with a point guard that can't shoot?
The answer may be no.
We need the team to take on the identity of Duocore who is visibly upset he is the only player hustling in transition. We need the team to take on the identity of Eugene is willing to take a charge.
Corey has been our best defender and I think he actually should have had the ball in his hands more tonight.
My hope is next year we have guys that need minutes.
Baker has to get a better handle. I still envision him as a 3rd guard and hope we can recruit a point guard and an explosive 2 that can score all ways.
Can you win in college basketball with a point guard that can't shoot?
The answer may be no.
We need the team to take on the identity of Duocore who is visibly upset he is the only player hustling in transition. We need the team to take on the identity of Eugene is willing to take a charge.
Corey has been our best defender and I think he actually should have had the ball in his hands more tonight.
My hope is next year we have guys that need minutes.
Baker has to get a better handle. I still envision him as a 3rd guard and hope we can recruit a point guard and an explosive 2 that can score all ways.
Agree with this thread one hundred percent. We will have no true PG or trusted ball handler against pressure.... sure we will be fine in the non conference but we will struggle mightily against any fast athletic long armed team we play.... and that doesn’t even take into account play making and passing
Uhhhhh I don't think you've been watching as much basketball around the country that you normally do
In the end, Corey scored 20 and was a big contributor..but I also saw plenty of his laziness in this game, especially towards the end. I wouldn't call this a good game for him.
Williams is also hurting us. Can't have a two guard that can't knock down threes. I am hoping Mathis is an upgrade to Williams and he should be. If Corey comes back and Geo continues to improve and Mathis is an upgrade then out back court is set as long as we add a fourth guard.
I have little issues with the way Corey played. He is at his best when playing 32 minutes. I actually thought we needed more of his dribble penetration.
Corey will be back i believe. He did show flashes of driving with his left today because they were showing 0 respect. Couldnt see the finish hand but its coming. Its just so noticable his left hand is like a foreign language. Progress, but not enough.
He also seems very hesitant to rip his shot and their center #14? or 12 i forget was sending his layups left and right.
EDIT: Corey D is also impressive and a lot of his offensive woes i think are due to dead legs bc Souf hasnt proven he can come in and give him a breather. FSU showed he isnt ready, im not givign up on him yet.
He also seems very hesitant to rip his shot and their center #14? or 12 i forget was sending his layups left and right.
EDIT: Corey D is also impressive and a lot of his offensive woes i think are due to dead legs bc Souf hasnt proven he can come in and give him a breather. FSU showed he isnt ready, im not givign up on him yet.
Our roster lacks capable point guards. The Souf miss is huge and could become bigger. We lose a combo guard in Mike Williams next year and possibly Corey we really needed to ball handlers to come in. We are a little Big heavy, KYK is correct IMO
This! Gio is still just a kid and will certainly develop as he plays game after game.
We were getting closer when Douby skipped his senior year. Hope it's not a repeat. This kid is a gamer. $$$$
Anyone who doesn't want our best player back next year, as a senior, is friggin' nuts.
its open for debate...i can see the merits of both arguments
Not true. Mathis and Kiss are going to be difference makers. Kiss is going to open up a lot of the inside game because of his 3 pt shooting, Corey continues to be erratic and plays out of control as he did tonight. If he was smart he would pump fake and get the foul.
Baker needs to improve his ball handling a lot to be a point guard.
Having said that our best lineup right now on offense could be and maybe overall
Baker Williams Issa Freeman doucore
Having said that our best lineup right now on offense could be and maybe overall
Baker Williams Issa Freeman doucore
I'd put in Eugene over Freeman against legit b1g teams. How many times does Freeman get blocked?
Who would take the minutes of Sanders and williams? We are short at the guard position this year. The guards have to play too many minutes. Mathis and Kiss to replace those 2 means we are short next year as well. Can we find another guard for next year?
Who would take the minutes of Sanders and williams? We are short at the guard position this year. The guards have to play too many minutes. Mathis and Kiss to replace those 2 means we are short next year as well. Can we find another guard for next year?
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