Let's face it, We're Broke!!
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That's why everybody laughs and call you guys Buttgers because you guys think y'all college football royalty and you haven't achieved a got damn thing but be the birthplace. We ,Alabama, have won national, conference and divisional championship. We ain't pony up nothing for Saban. We payed that guy 4 million. He won and earned what he's getting. No cheating at all like our last coach. Hard work and patience brung us back. You are not PSU, OSU, Nebraska or Michigan. You are a developmental program and after that Flood guy washed away your 10 year build up. You gotta start from the bottom again. Don't blame the current administration for the hire of Ash because he is doing fine. Blame the ******* who hired the guy Schiano left after he took everybody else with him to Tampa Bay.
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anon_ivydyf0amkzay
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LOL...A bama fan in a Rutgers board...bored? Lost? Both?[laughing]
PS sunshine: no Rutgers fan in know...not one...thinks of RU as so-called football "royalty"...athletically we are as unaccomplished as it gets...where we kick you bammer *** is in research and academics! I'll take that any day gump!
PS sunshine: no Rutgers fan in know...not one...thinks of RU as so-called football "royalty"...athletically we are as unaccomplished as it gets...where we kick you bammer *** is in research and academics! I'll take that any day gump!
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I always thought Alabama fans would be obnoxious, entitled and insufferable, but you are one of my favorite posters on R board.
We have a few wacko fans but most of us don't think we're "football royalty". We think we should be a solid program based in our recruiting grounds and what we saw under Schiano. Buttgers is because we suck *** right now.
A competent special teams coach would have helped that cause a lot so far this season as well. His units have absolutely destroyed all momentum in two games now. Two games that we were winning at the time. The games changed after Okruch's units screwed the pooch once again.
We got Flood do to lack of money. Flood in turn did his destruction act taking 4 yrs to complete. It simply took a little time to destroy what Schiano built. Thus you got that 8-5 record. We actually paid Schaino a decent salary for the time. So we got a decent product. We paid a bargain basement price for a bargain basement coach in Flood and the results speak for themselves. We got Ash do to money, if we had a bigger budget our list of candidates would have been vastly expanded. We chose to pay the least amount in our conference do to lack of money.
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Sure you do. You keep preaching academics "sunshine" but this is about football. You care about football.
Time for the alumni to step up with time, money and talent. If the alumni think it important enough it will get done. You want an elite football program? Step up and start working for that goal. Even when Michigan was In the dumps for a decade the fan base never abandoned the program. Rutgers can do the same of the alumni step up. Just sayin!
Lol...Bama fans focus on COLLEGE FB because what else do they have? A high standard of living? Culture? Multiple activities and money to support them? No...just a college FB team to carry the pride of the former CSA...they were licking their wounds in shame whilst we were already playing in the very 1st college FB game and Edison was busy opening plants to advance our nation's run to improving our nation's standard of living and shedding light on the darkness..rendering the buggy whip extinct for all practical purposes and leading the industrial revolution and our nation to national prominence among advanced nations while most of the south was the "butt" not gers of jokes !! So we have to try and understand where the insecurity is rooted to understand where they come from intellectually and allow them something to cling to outside whistling Dixie !! I wonder what Bear Bryant thought after visiting NJ in 1980 and barely escaping with a win? Playing such a team as us filled with 2 star and UR players and feeling fortunate to go back with a W?....
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This perception is boosted by the posts of Al. Remember he used to post his crap on all the opponents boards. That is my we have that perception with other teams.
Yeah, see the NY Giants. They have a elite QB and WRs but can't do a damn thing with it due to a piss poor OL.
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Makes complete sense...behaving and acting like an ahole...typical state penn cultish behavior...now I get it!
Dude.. I am agreeing with you. I am just adding context. And the vast majority of Rutgers fans do not think of us as college football royalty.. you are correct that guys like the OP (who is likely not a Rutgers fan but a Rutgers critic) often show unrealistic expectations here and they think spending money is the only solution... money we don't have... because, as you said, we are NOT college football royalty.
What you also might not realize is that Rutgers is in a very weird position and has been. For most of its history, if you were a NJ resident choosing a college to attend and you cared about big time college athletics.. Rutgers was way, way, way down the list. On the academic side we had plenty of programs to pull top students.. but on the sports side.. not so much. We once had a basketball pedigree but pissed that away but not joining the Big East when it was formed. I knew guys that chose Rutgers because of the basketball program being great in the late 70s (yes, I am a fossil).
But where that history leaves us is where the NJ populace who cares about sports has largely attended colleges outside New Jersey and have no ties to Rutgers, their state school. It is a unique and difficult position for a State U to be in and try to compete with the likes of Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State.
I think, at this point, the natural rank of Rutgers in the Big Ten should be middle of the pack... but we are at the bottom because of errors.. errors that might be corrected if there were more funds available.. but there is no guarantee that spending money will be done wisely... as you guys did with Saban and Michigan did with Harbaugh. Both those guys took the money AND the tradition that came with those positions. It wasn't just money. If programs like Rutgers offered them 20% more they would not have taken those offers, imho.
If Rutgers is ever going to compete for a NC it will have to get there in stages and the first step is to return to where Schiano already had us... and he never won a conference championship. Can Ash get us there? No idea. He is in a tough spot.. never having been a head coach.. he is learning on the job.
That excuse only works in Years 1 &2 with a new Staff. Stop the BS,
you can't go 2 + years without a win vs. a P5 team.
LOL you think that's getting spent on FB and other sports?
You keep writing that and I know you are wrong.
Unless you are referring to the fact that the subsidy will be greatly reduced (as it should, no other school in the NCAA has a bigger subsidy than Rutgers). The goal is to reduce the subsidy to only student fees like MOST Big Ten schools and most FBS power five schools for that matter.
That $50 million will not be used for anything else besides athletics, What Rutgers is currently paying now to athletics in subsidy (minus student fees) will finally be used for what it was originally meant for aka academics.
The big schools get most of their money from donations not the general funds. If everyone gave like those fans do, this would all be a non-issue.
All of this is right except for the "college royalty" stuff. That's probably because he's an outsider.
Can we gift him a Round Table membership so he sticks around? We could benefit from that point of view.
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I'd like to think you are right but this is Rutgers. We'd screw up a $50M gift.
I'll be live it when I see it. There's a SJW war afoot and that money is needed elsewhere.
The University of Alabama has an excellent football program. Everything else about the state of Alabama is butt.
You mean if we change the QB the recievers will suddenly run open routes,catch the ball and the line will suddenly block?
wow..in that case change the QB!! Brilliant Idea!
I'm not trolling I'm just speaking the truth according to my experience and wisdom pertaining to college athletics. Rutgers University would never tolerate a national championship team, Rutgers University may not even tolerate a team that is in contention for a Rose Bowl. Do you think the Administration is stupid? Do you think the professors and chairmen are stupid? They know exactly the kind of money necessary to attract a championship caliber coach, they are fully aware of the elite athletes necessary to win at the highest possible level and guess what they are not going to allow that to happen now or ever. Sure every 20 or 30 years you'll be able to sneak in a 2006 season but that's the exception rather than the rule. The reason OSU, MSU and PSU are successful is because they are all in from a cultural, financial and spiritual standpoint, with the exception of a handful of fans that's not the case here at Rutgers.
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I respectfully disagree with you. Trenton has already made some overtures that once we become full members of the B10 State appropriation will be reduced significantly and redirected to schools like Rowan University in order to improve their Athletic Department. If this comes to fruition you will have one of two choices, increase fee on students which is equivalent to raising tuition or redirect existing funds to help subsidize the football program. The latter will once again create animosity between the faculty and Athletic Department. Please don't take this personally but you're somewhat naive if you think Trenton and the faculty are not waiting for that full payout. Yes in theory that 50 million should be spent on athletics but take the time to ask Wisconsin how Scott Walker was able to redirect some of those funds via creative accounting to subsidize non-sports activities. Not trolling here just stating (potential) facts.
dontestrond, you're a good poster and a nice change of pace, but you're way off base here. The majority of posters here not named Al (and the broader fanbase too) understand what Rutgers is. We will never contend for Nat'l Chmp. But based on the investments we've made and the infrastructure, I don't think we should be the program that fears (and for good reason) losing a game to a middle-of-the-road MAC team. Nobody is saying we should consistently beat OSU, Michigan, PSU, Nebraska, but when they are having the worst season they've had in 50 years, yes, an upset should be possible. Just like Michigan in 2014.
They have good BBQ.. don't put down other states, every state has their issues. Plus he came in peace.
Is this necessary?? Have you even been to the state of Alabama? And please don't consider two days in B'ham visiting the Gray Lady "visiting Alabama".
If anyone still doesn't think that the OP is just massive troll, just read his posts in this thread, that tells you all you ever need to know.
We shouldn't blame the current RU Administration for our sports ills...you've got to be kidding me! I blame this administration, and past administrations for lack of foresight, support, and facilities going back decades for all sports. Actually, going back to the AD Fred Gruninger era...most Rutgers fans, if not all, blame Mr. Gruninger for not having the foresight to join the Big East at its inception, and later on, when the Big East was moving toward a basketball powerhouse conference he was the mouth piece that declined another invitation. We had a great football head coach in Frank Burns when the administration decided to go big time football...the poor guy had to recruit with high school facilities, trying to recruit against then powers BC, Syracuse, Penn State, Pitt, West Virginia...what a joke! I never, ever blamed Mr. Gruninger for the colossal mistakes of total lack of foresight and judgement, I totally blamed the real joke...the Rutgers Administration who made all the devastatingly poor decisions...AD Fred Gruninger was just an inexperienced Golf coach, a mouthpiece, following administration orders. Until recently, this administration was in lock step with those that preceded it, but still has a ways to go, however enter AD Mr Hobbs who is doing a great job, he is the man that can articulate the good, bad, and ugly in speaking to the current Rutgers Administration
So, in conclusion "dontestrond," if you don't live the experience one should not open ones mouth. I like your posts though, but this one just hit me the wrong way, sorry. ROLL TIDE!
I do t know if his facts will fly with our free boards' opinions. It's all about feelings here, not logic!
All I know is as a RU and NY Giants fan, I am 1-7 and September isn't even over yet. After getting excited for National Recruiting Day, NFL Free Agency, RU Grad Transfers and the NFL Draft, I can now turn my attention to apple picking, Halloween and the holidays until next February when the whole process will repeat itself.
Keep it up. Your getting there. If you don't get this win on me, please fill free to go to the board and complain about the coaching staff and not the talent you lack of making a joke my brother.