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JoeRU0304

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I'll never understand why people come here and act mad/surprised that we're not singing the praises of Temple or other programs. I don't expect to go to other boards and see them giving Rutgers a sh#t worth of credit. In fact, I don't go onto other boards looking for Rutgers mentions at all because I know what it's going to be. Why would things be different here with Temple?

I think SHUSource is a sound poster/ not looking to start any crap. That being said, I do wonder if/when he's at OwlScoop/ maybe another TU board and Rutgers comes up (because you know we do from time to time) and some of their posters are trashing us, does he step in then to 'defend' Rutgers?


Joe P.
 

e5fdny

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But does he have a Minnesota offer? That's all that matters, right?
 

NickyNewark51

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I think SHUSource is a sound poster/ not looking to start any crap. That being said, I do wonder if/when he's at OwlScoop/ maybe another TU board and Rutgers comes up (because you know we do from time to time) and some of their posters are trashing us, does he step in then to 'defend' Rutgers?


Joe P.
I wonder the same thing.....rarely will so called friends of RU come to our defense..
 
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RU_DIO

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Don't be jealous little Bunkie. I put up with the nonsense for long enough. I've had 2 offers since retiring but just can't do it anymore.

I almost went back behind the stick a month ago. I miss it but not enough to miss saying goodnight to my kids every night.

Miss the money though. Congrats on the retirement.
 

JoeRU0304

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It's July. Temple also is ranked higher than Alabama right now.

...and BC's class is ranked in the Top 25 as well...but I guess preliminary rankings before any real substantial data comes in is always 100% accurate.

'That is all'.


JoeP.
 

knightfan7

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...and BC's class is ranked in the Top 25 as well...but I guess preliminary rankings before any real substantial data comes in is always 100% accurate.

'That is all'.


JoeP.

It seems to me this time of year it's mostly the # of recruits, not the quality once you get past the Top 25 or so.
 
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AshCatchEm

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The service that many of you pay for rates Temple's Recruiting Class better than yours.

That is all.

Like I give a flying f**k? If we didn't offer, we didn't offer. We got a RB miles ahead of Dobbins the day after we "lost" him (what a joke). Enjoy our leftovers. Just because you have more no offer regional 3 stars doesn't mean you're getting better prospects and their updated state rankings in the future will reflect that. They ended up at temple. They are worse than what we are bringing in and more than half your class would flip to us instantly if we were to offer..because your temple, and you're beneath us. I can't hear the ******** coming out of your mouth when you're groveling at our feet like that.
 

Knight Shift

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I almost went back behind the stick a month ago. I miss it but not enough to miss saying goodnight to my kids every night.

Miss the money though. Congrats on the retirement.
Back behind the stick? Did you push a broom somewhere?
Seriously, what does back behind the stick mean?
 

AshCatchEm

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we offered, stop the pie in the sky with our recruiting, remember we are in the big 10 not the mac
We offered like 500 prospects. Ware you are premium..if you don't know this kid didn't have a committable offer why do you even pay for premium other than to complain all the time? And of course to pretend that every kid we offered has a committable offer on the free board. Dobbins had an offer at one time too. Is the common sense that he couldn't commit because of Pacheco coming the next day too much for you to handle as well?

I'm sorry but if you think this kid had a committable offer, you're an idiot.
 

JoeRU0304

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It seems to me this time of year it's mostly the # of recruits, not the quality once you get past the Top 25 or so.

Yeah the Rivals formula tends to skew towards # of commits, especially this early on. It's all subjective anyway but the actual class 'ranking' IMO doesn't really start carrying weight until December/ January.


Joe P.
 
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NickyNewark51

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Back behind the stick? Did you push a broom somewhere?
Seriously, what does back behind the stick mean?
Stick is a bar term for bartenders...the actual bar is the "stick" and the bartenders "behind the stick"...might be RU-Dios got it right though as the "beertap" might be correct also...I've done it myself ..
 
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JoeRU0304

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Like I give a flying f**k? If we didn't offer, we didn't offer. We got a RB miles ahead of Dobbins the day after we "lost" him (what a joke). Enjoy our leftovers. Just because you have more no offer regional 3 stars doesn't mean you're getting better prospects and their updated state rankings in the future will reflect that. They ended up at temple. They are worse than what we are bringing in and more than half your class would flip to us instantly if we were to offer..because your temple, and you're beneath us. I can't hear the ******** coming out of your mouth when you're groveling at our feet like that.


Eh, don't need to look down our noses at anyone regardless of conference affiliations. I respect what TU has done for themselves even if some of their fans clearly think that they're now some superpower because they won C-USA version 3.67 and lost to a 10th place team in the same bowl game they went to for finishing 3rd in the MAC.


Joe P.
 
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AshCatchEm

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Eh, don't need to look down our noses at anyone regardless of conference affiliations. I respect what TU has done for themselves even if some of their fans clearly think that they're now some superpower because they won C-USA version 3.67 and lost to a 10th place team in the same bowl game they went to for finishing 3rd in the MAC.


Joe P.
They have had a decent stretch of coaches in a row and we can see if that continues but in no way will they be competition when we play real football and they play against the Maac light. Not to mention their ****** location.
 

madchuck

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They have had a decent stretch of coaches in a row and we can see if that continues but in no way will they be competition when we play real football and they play against the Maac light. Not to mention their ****** location.

I agree with most of this. Overall, obviously Rutgers is the better program. Better conference and harder competition. I would much rather be in Rutgers situation than Temple any day of the week. But Temple has done a good job the past 2 years. They've sent more players to the NFL than we have. Moreover, the few P5 teams they played, they did really well. They beat Penn State, hung with them a second time and hung with Notre Dame. When we played Penn State we didn't even look like we belonged on the same field as them. And we had zero players drafted. So calling Temple a complete ******** that did nothing and beneath us isn't accurate at this point in time.
 
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JoeRU0304

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I agree with most of this. Overall, obviously Rutgers is the better program. Better conference and harder competition. I would much rather be in Rutgers situation than Temple any day of the week. But Temple has done a good job the past 2 years. They've sent more players to the NFL than we have. Moreover, the few P5 teams they played, they did really well. They beat Penn State, hung with them a second time and hung with Notre Dame. When we played Penn State we didn't even look like we belonged on the same field as them. And we had zero players drafted. So calling Temple a complete ******** that did nothing and beneath us isn't accurate at this point in time.

...what makes me shake my head with TU is they now seem to think they're bulletproof. Just as Rutgers and a number of programs have found out, they're 1 bad coaching hire from falling off the edge.


Joe P.
 

AshCatchEm

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anyone pointing to temples 41 class ranking is a freaking joke.

Someone explain to me how we have more 3 star recruits and yet temple is rated higher? we have 3 5.6's committed and they have a total of 1. The 7 2 stars they have committed elevate them? What a bunch of ********.
 

SHUSource

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I think SHUSource is a sound poster/ not looking to start any crap. That being said, I do wonder if/when he's at OwlScoop/ maybe another TU board and Rutgers comes up (because you know we do from time to time) and some of their posters are trashing us, does he step in then to 'defend' Rutgers?
In the interest of transparency, I do not, at least not within the harmless context of football. I should note, though, that there is a less traffic on OwlScoop, and Rutgers really doesn't come up much.

My wife is a Rutgers alum and employee, so I have some vested interest in Rutgers, the university. If something unfair and off-base is said, I correct the record, just as I do here.
 

wheezer

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Jun 3, 2001
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anyone pointing to temples 41 class ranking is a freaking joke.

Someone explain to me how we have more 3 star recruits and yet temple is rated higher? we have 3 5.6's committed and they have a total of 1. The 7 2 stars they have committed elevate them? What a bunch of ********.
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Temple has three more verbals right now, which gives them more points when they multiply that number times star value

if we had three more verbals in the mid 3 pt range, our ranking would be
very close to temples

the past 2 or 3 years it was the other way around....RU would get a lot of early 3 star 5.5 players, that vaulted us into the 20's...... some would get all excited by the ranking, but of course you cannot hold a 20's ranking with a ton of 3 star
players.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Aug 1, 2001
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All these recruits Temple's getting who couldn't have committed to Rutgers have the Owls at No. 41 right now (per Rivals). Eight three-star kids, too - same as Rutgers (again, per Rivals). I'm not flaming you, but maybe - just maybe - Temple's on their way to a nice class? I mean, for having to recruit the same turf as an AAC school? It's pretty impressive.

It could look different on signing day, but even Rhule never had a class this good at this point. I'm sure they lose a kid, but they just as likely get another to flip at the end, too.

RU 2.75 per recruit
Shirley 2.59

...they're currently 41st due to class size (15 to our 12).

247: 48/77 RU over TU
Scout: 53/67 RU over TU
 

bigmatt718

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Mar 11, 2013
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Maybe the Eagles host that too.

Joe P.
Cosby U is being priced out of the Linc by the Eagles. Pretty soon they might have to share a stadium with Penn at Franklin Field. Must be humiliating to be the Eagles bitches.
 

1873

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Men are talking here, when I want opinion from third tier safety schools & lil' CYOs I'll ask.
 

madchuck

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...what makes me shake my head with TU is they now seem to think they're bulletproof. Just as Rutgers and a number of programs have found out, they're 1 bad coaching hire from falling off the edge.


Joe P.

True. See South Florida. There was a point in time when they were legit.
 

JoeRU0304

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True. See South Florida. There was a point in time when they were legit.

USF has definitely rebounded over the last 2-3 years (knocked off cuse and South Carolina last year) though IMO they're still not at the level they were at when they were in the Big East. They did pretty much save some face for the AAC last year during bowl season by beating South Carolina (AAC has been pretty horrid in bowl games over past 3 years outside of Houston in '15 and USF last year).


Joe P.
 
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I like the league Temple is in. It fun going to some of the nation's major cities and it's a competitive league that is well represented in the post season.

I don't see the enjoyment having your teams be the B1G doormat. what difference does the league money mean when your embarrassed every week in both major sports....
 

bigmatt718

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Cosby U won the AAC last year and went to the same bowl they did as a member of the MAC. They also lost said bowl game to a mediocre Wake Forest team, just like they lost to a mediocre UCLA team back in their MAC days.

Also in 2014 they got passed over a bowl game at 6-6 because their fans don't travel. That to me would be humiliating. RU has a rep of a good fanbase that travels to bowls and road games.
 
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JoeRU0304

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I like the league Temple is in. It fun going to some of the nation's major cities and it's a competitive league that is well represented in the post season.

I don't see the enjoyment having your teams be the B1G doormat. what difference does the league money mean when your embarrassed every week in both major sports....

Know what the test of a 'good, competitive' league can be? Ask it's members if it would accept membership in the SEC, B1G, PAC-12, ACC or Big 12 vs. stay in their current league. I also didn't know that losing like 65-70% of your bowl games ("competitive"???) and playing 2/3 of your bowl games before Christmas is 'well-represented' in the postseason.

...and I guess good thing for Rutgers Athletics that 1-2 seasons doesn't represent 'forever'. Being that just a decade ago TU was getting wiped off the field by MAC schools you should know that teams can get better.


Joe P.
 
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Kbee3

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Aug 23, 2002
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I like the league Temple is in. It fun going to some of the nation's major cities and it's a competitive league that is well represented in the post season.

I don't see the enjoyment having your teams be the B1G doormat. what difference does the league money mean when your embarrassed every week in both major sports....

Yeah. I could see Temple saying "no" to the Big Ten if it ever came calling.
BTW, once upon a time I was the only poster on this board interested in talking about Temple football. That time has long since passed. Yawn.
To paraphrase what I used to hear back then, who gives a crap about Temple football ?
 
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LETSGORU91_

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The service that many of you pay for rates Temple's Recruiting Class better than yours.

That is all.

Ummm, that's not really all. Temple's lofty ranking is a composite score and thus is based largely on the number of commits. Check out the average ranking per commit and please report back here on this page. When you figure it out, you won't be gloating over their rank and you will see it isn't as impressive as you belive it to be.