Melo Trimble not drafted

RUonBrain

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If Melo was not drafted, what does that say about how hard it is to get drafted?

Anyone surprised by this?

What does it say about Corey's chances?

Glad we won't have to face him again.
 

RJM_Go_RU

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Surprised to find out the NBA draft consists of just 2 rounds - 60 players.

I get basketball roster is much smaller than other sports so explains fewer rounds.

But 2 rounds seems a little light.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Shot 41% from 3 as a frosh and 31% as a soph and junior.

1 thing is clear. 3 point shooting is almost a prerequisite for success in both NCAAs and NBA as a guard.
 
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PhilaPhans

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Surprised to find out the NBA draft consists of just 2 rounds - 60 players.

I get basketball roster is much smaller than other sports so explains fewer rounds.

But 2 rounds seems a little light.

There isn't enough talent out there that teams even want their second round picks (after about pick 40).
 

RJM_Go_RU

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There isn't enough talent out there that teams even want their second round picks (after about pick 40).
Playing in the NBA is better than hitting the lottery. Really tiny percentage make it, but if you do, lots of $$$ (better than any other sport)
 

CranfordKnight

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No Trimble, Nigel Hayes, Isaiah Briscoe, Derrick Walton, Bronson Koenig. Not that they were expected to be, but familiar names to me. Always interesting how the NBA views some of these college stars.
 

MV9000

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Kinda shocked no one took a waiver on him. I do believe him and Hayes will have their shot whether it be here or Europe.

I was not really that enthralled with Hayes when we played them at MSG. Such a great atmosphere that day.
 

CranfordKnight

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Kinda shocked no one took a waiver on him. I do believe him and Hayes will have their shot whether it be here or Europe.

I was not really that enthralled with Hayes when we played them at MSG. Such a great atmosphere that day.

The Knicks signed Hayes, so maybe he'll get a chance to redeem himself. Koenig signed with the Bucks, nice local story for him. Briscoe and Trimble to the Sixers, and Walton to the Magic.
 
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Section114

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Sometimes you are better not being drafted and going to a situation that may allow better success (making the team),
 

PhilaPhans

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It's all about whether your game translates to the new NBA model. Which is shooting, length, athleticism, and defense. They want 3&D guys all over the court.

Sure a 6'1 guard may have a great college career, but if he's got a 6'3 wingspan, he's useless in the NBA.

It's why the greatest shooter in this draft, Malik Monk, dropped all the way to 11. Great shooter, good athlete, too small. If he was 6'6 with a 6'11 wingspan, he would have probably gone #1.
 
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TruJerz_rivals

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A little surprised. Most of the mock drafts had him getting drafted 2nd round. And if I'm not mistaken some had him going late 1st round last year before he decided to come back and play his junior year.

I do think he'll get signed as an undrafted rookie and play summer league but with the increase of interest in international prospects, a lot of guys who would of been drafted out of college many years ago, don't anymore. The 2nd round of the draft has become an opportunity for NBA teams to stash international talent for a few years
 
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PiscatawayMike

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A little surprised. Most of the mock drafts had him getting drafted 2nd round. And if I'm not mistaken some had him going late 1st round last year before he decided to come back and play his last year out at Maryland.

I do think he'll get signed as an undrafted rookie and play summer league but with the increase of interest in international prospects, a lot of guys who would of been drafted out of college many years ago, don't anymore. The 2nd round of the draft has become an opportunity for NBA teams to stash international talent for a few years
This draft was simply too strong and loaded with young players. Melo would have been drafted in 2016... and probably in 2015, too.
 
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littlenis5

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Sometimes you are better not being drafted and going to a situation that may allow better success (making the team),

To this point, I believe Trimble signed a free agent deal with the Sixers, where he can compete for minutes.
 

PhilaPhans

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To this point, I believe Trimble signed a free agent deal with the Sixers, where he can compete for minutes.

As a Sixers fan, I'm quite surprised. I'm under the impression that he's no more than a training camp body. We have our Point Guard, our Point Forward, and our backup PG already set. Doesn't mean he can't bypass TJ McConnell as the backup guard, but yeah, I'm pretty surprised he came here.
 

RUJMM78

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Shot 41% from 3 as a frosh and 31% as a soph and junior.

1 thing is clear. 3 point shooting is almost a prerequisite for success in both NCAAs and NBA as a guard.
I would add height along with 3 point shooting for the guard position.
 

MADHAT1

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Just because NBA teams might feel a player can play in their league, overseas is an option those players can take and earn a good living playing BB.
Trimble maght not be NBA material , even if he tries the devolpment league route or gets a training camp invite.
But if he can latch on overseas, there's money to be had there and I think some overseas leagues pay over a million a year to many of the players in it.
 

littlenis5

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Even with Simmons as a tangible offensive PG (and we don't know if he can really do it yet), they'll need someone to defend the other team's PG and spot up for threes on offense. Melo can evolve into that role. I haven't seen the contract details but I would bet it's similar to what they did with Robert Covington - long term low money- plus with him getting to have the two way contract with the 87ers
 

TDIrish27

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One of those guys IMO who's a good player just not an NBA player.

He isn't big enough to be an average athlete which is what he is.

A year or two in the D League maybe he gets there but I think he's better off overseas.
 

Scangg

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Hopefully Corey sees that and realized he definitely made the right call coming back. Maybe some extra motivation to really step his game up if he wants to get drafted
 

RUPete

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Shot 41% from 3 as a frosh and 31% as a soph and junior.

1 thing is clear. 3 point shooting is almost a prerequisite for success in both NCAAs and NBA as a guard.
Heard a discussion the other day on ESPN radio the other day about how the traditional center is becoming obsolete. I may not go that far, but there's way less of a premium on having a post-up big man in the middle than there used to be. Big guys have to do everything now: shoot the 3, step out and defend on the perimeter, etc.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Heard a discussion the other day on ESPN radio the other day about how the traditional center is becoming obsolete. I may not go that far, but there's way less of a premium on having a post-up big man in the middle than there used to be. Big guys have to do everything now: shoot the 3, step out and defend on the perimeter, etc.

10 years ago a 125-115 NBA final game was unimaginable. Things will go full circle and traditional centers could make a comeback.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Hopefully Corey sees that and realized he definitely made the right call coming back. Maybe some extra motivation to really step his game up if he wants to get drafted

......or the wrong call by wasting 2 years of his athletic life not making any money hoping to be a NBA player at some point.
 

Russ Wood

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If Melo was not drafted, what does that say about how hard it is to get drafted?

Anyone surprised by this?

What does it say about Corey's chances?

Glad we won't have to face him again.
Not. Surprised. At. All.

Trimble should have stayed at Maryland.

Sanders had a mixtape & a documentary series, no way he doesn't get drafted.

Wait...
 

PhilaPhans

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With Corey specifically, he's athletic. You can see it in his speed in the testing and stuff that he's done over the years. Maybe not a pogo stick guy like a Zack Lavine who plays above the rim all the time, but Corey can hold his own. His issue is two-fold: shooting is one, and the other is position. His shooting numbers are awful for a guard, especially one of his size. Next, what is he? A one? A two? Like Quincy, his position at the next level is a one. Like Quincy, he hasn't shown he can play it well enough yet at the college level. I wish we had the shooters and stuff to allow him to show what he has, because I know he has that ability. If I'm him, I concentrate on my handle, breaking down and defense and getting to the rim, and piling up as many assists as possible while shooting a high percentage from deep. That's the way to get noticed. Nobody gives a damn if you can ball if you can't do the things that will make you fit into today's NBA system.
 

Big East Beast

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With Corey specifically, he's athletic. You can see it in his speed in the testing and stuff that he's done over the years. Maybe not a pogo stick guy like a Zack Lavine who plays above the rim all the time, but Corey can hold his own. His issue is two-fold: shooting is one, and the other is position. His shooting numbers are awful for a guard, especially one of his size. Next, what is he? A one? A two? Like Quincy, his position at the next level is a one. Like Quincy, he hasn't shown he can play it well enough yet at the college level. I wish we had the shooters and stuff to allow him to show what he has, because I know he has that ability. If I'm him, I concentrate on my handle, breaking down and defense and getting to the rim, and piling up as many assists as possible while shooting a high percentage from deep. That's the way to get noticed. Nobody gives a damn if you can ball if you can't do the things that will make you fit into today's NBA system.

Quincy was never a PG nor did he need to be. He just wasn't able to shoot at the NBA level. I'm also not sure he ever learned how to play legit D.

JJ Reddick stuck around in the league for several seasons as a role player before he got major minutes-- but one thing he never stopped doing was making shots.

Corey is much more athletic than either of those guys, but also light years behind in terms of discipline or fitting into a niche role off the ball.

It's not uncommon for there to be a soph slump; he will need to make monumental progress this year to have any real chance at the next level. I think he might have it in him - it would likely need to coincide with something "clicking" for Freeman as well. I certainly will be pulling for him!
 

SkilletHead2

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NBA salaries are high, but once you're past the top dozen or so players, not much different than baseball, soccer, or surprisingly, cricket.

Probably the best sport in terms of expected value is soccer, where according to my back of the envelope calculations, you can get paid roughly $100 million for every goal scored.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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What is says is that small guards are a dime a dozen and that Sanders isn't ready for the NBA.
It also says that if you're a small guard with NBA aspirations, you'd better be able to shoot the damn ball. Most of the dime a dozen guards in the NBA are much better shooters than these two.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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With Corey specifically, he's athletic. You can see it in his speed in the testing and stuff that he's done over the years. Maybe not a pogo stick guy like a Zack Lavine who plays above the rim all the time, but Corey can hold his own. His issue is two-fold: shooting is one, and the other is position. His shooting numbers are awful for a guard, especially one of his size. Next, what is he? A one? A two? Like Quincy, his position at the next level is a one. Like Quincy, he hasn't shown he can play it well enough yet at the college level. I wish we had the shooters and stuff to allow him to show what he has, because I know he has that ability. If I'm him, I concentrate on my handle, breaking down and defense and getting to the rim, and piling up as many assists as possible while shooting a high percentage from deep. That's the way to get noticed. Nobody gives a damn if you can ball if you can't do the things that will make you fit into today's NBA system.
The level of defense in the NBA is 10 times what it is in college. Without a reliable jumper, he's not beating even average NBA defenders off the dribble.
 

TheB1GTerp

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Shot 41% from 3 as a frosh and 31% as a soph and junior.

1 thing is clear. 3 point shooting is almost a prerequisite for success in both NCAAs and NBA as a guard.

The B1G decided it would be open season on Melo, and not call a foul because Izzo and Chambers bitterly complained.

I think he'll do fine for 76ers the NBA calls fouls and hand checking now. Funny it used to be the opposite where the NCAA didn't allow that contact. Now with Curry, the NBA wants guards to move free. So I think he'll do better and make a squad. His defense is my number one concern, but I think he can make it.

Melo had to go to the NBA, it was 100% clear to me they would not call a foul for Melo anymore. There were games he wouldn't get to the line until 5 minutes left in the 2nd half.

Melo didn't get worse shooting, the B1G refs caved into the coaches.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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The B1G decided it would be open season on Melo, and not call a foul because Izzo and Chambers bitterly complained.

I think he'll do fine for 76ers the NBA calls fouls and hand checking now. Funny it used to be the opposite where the NCAA didn't allow that contact. Now with Curry, the NBA wants guards to move free. So I think he'll do better and make a squad. His defense is my number one concern, but I think he can make it.

Melo had to go to the NBA, it was 100% clear to me they would not call a foul for Melo anymore. There were games he wouldn't get to the line until 5 minutes left in the 2nd half.

Melo didn't get worse shooting, the B1G refs caved into the coaches.


Maybe our fanbase isn't alone in whining about officiating.
 

TheB1GTerp

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Maybe our fanbase isn't alone in whining about officiating.

The game we played at Rutgers, we go every call. It was ridiculous, I was mad, not because we were getting all the calls, but because when we played MSU it went the other way.
 

RutgHoops

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The B1G decided it would be open season on Melo, and not call a foul because Izzo and Chambers bitterly complained.

I think he'll do fine for 76ers the NBA calls fouls and hand checking now. Funny it used to be the opposite where the NCAA didn't allow that contact. Now with Curry, the NBA wants guards to move free. So I think he'll do better and make a squad. His defense is my number one concern, but I think he can make it.

Melo had to go to the NBA, it was 100% clear to me they would not call a foul for Melo anymore. There were games he wouldn't get to the line until 5 minutes left in the 2nd half.

Melo didn't get worse shooting, the B1G refs caved into the coaches.

Living in the DMV with a family full of Terp grads I get to watch just about every Maryland game. Not sure I am in agreement on the foul calls. Yup, just looked it up and he averaged over 5FTs per game. Thats a bunch for a guard.

I like Trimble as a player, but Melo's issue, in my opinion, was he stopped making 3's at a "college kid who is an NBA prospect" level. As a frosh he was great from 3. As a Soph and Junior not so much.