Terrible news. Saw Chris first time at NB State Theater during college, solo tour, then Soundgarden a few years ago. Was certainly not expecting to read this.
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Not sure why you would make fun of those bands...they all have deep classic cuts..your lol seems like someone who doesn't know their music and disregards grunge
Very sad news. I heard that the last song he sung was a cover of Led Zep's "In my time of dying" Black Hole Sun and Doesn't Remind Me are two of my favorites.
Wow sad day I just don't get why someone would do this. Loved his music he was truly a legend in the making but I guess with genius there is always the possibility of losing your way.
he recorded an entire acoustic album called "songbook" it's got some of his biggest songs recorded live with just an acoustic guitar. the crispness of each note will give you goosebumps.
@bac2therac , I did not read @Knight Shift as being disrespectful, just the opposite in fact. To me he was saying that he still listens to these bands today. He can clarify for himself if he chooses.
My personal current tastes have edged harder (e.g. Mastodon, Gojira). Mastodon clearly has been influenced by Soundgarden. AIC's last two albums without LS were excellent as well.
Are you looking for an argument? Here you go!
@famousbill19 asked "& others who were really into AIC/Soundgarden/STP etc. back in the early 1990's, what are you listening to now?"
My answer was that I am still listening to those bands-probably more so than any current band. More AIC/Soundgarden than STP, who I do not like as much as AIC and Soundgarden, but they all stand the test of time.
Im just testes from your dis of Joni Mitchell....I thought LOL meant you thought they were jokes. There are some music snobs who poo poo the whole grunge era but it was truly strong and was the last gasp of rock and roll possibly forever as I doubt it will ever get into the mainstream again like it did due to various reasons.
Dude. Joni Mitchell was not grunge. She is not even rock n roll. C'mon!
Layne Staley had a truly unique voice. However, you can argue that the band is much more stable and equally as good now with William Duvall. I've seen them 3 times since he's joined the band (the last 3 summers in A.C.) and the shows have been excellent. Check My Brain might be a top 5 song by them of all time. Those guitars are really de-tuned right now and it's as grungy as you're gonna get.
I still listen to primarily 90's music. I prefer grunge, pop rock (i.e. Lemonheads/The Posies, Teenage Fanclub, etc.) and a lot of the meaningful 90's rap artists. However, I try to branch out and sample different genres and newer artists. I just end up circling back to my fav 90's bands and I love when they still release new stuff. Getting to see your favorites 20 years later in front of a few hundred people might suck for them, but a total win for me!
I still listen to primarily 90's music. I prefer grunge, pop rock (i.e. Lemonheads/The Posies, Teenage Fanclub, etc.) and a lot of the meaningful 90's rap artists. However, I try to branch out and sample different genres and newer artists. I just end up circling back to my fav 90's bands and I love when they still release new stuff. Getting to see your favorites 20 years later in front of a few hundred people might suck for them, but a total win for me!
Was more into Nirvana and AIC, not Soundgarden as much. Of course, Pearl Jam. Listen to a bunch of stuff now, but still listen to the older stuff. Newer stuff I mentioned in another thread- The Acid, Bonobo, Warpaint, Two Door Cinema Club, XX, LCD Sound System, Chvrches, Grimes, The Heavy, War on Drugs, The National...just to name a few.
Ive seen Alice two times with Duvall when he first joined the group but havent kept up since...are they coming around these parts again. I think Jerry Cantrell is underrated. His voice was half of Alice yet Layne got all the attention. The harmonies though between the two of them blended so well.
Big fan of Live and I see that they have finally reunited and will do a big tour soon. They will be playing with Godsmack and Bush at the WMMR Bar B Que this Saturday though I will not be going.
Two other less grungy but still with big time alt rock presence in the 90s were Garbage and the Cranberries. Ill be seeing them in July and September respectively as they reform for touring. Shirley still delivers and of course Butch Vig from Garbage was instrumental in that first Nirvana cd. Meanwhile Dolores has such a powerful voice albeit some love it and some hate it. She is another one who has had some issues with depression and bipolarism.
As far as live after grunge...I still was into the derivitive post grunge bands like Days of the New, Bush and Puddle of Mudd but never got into the Nu metal stuff of Korn and Limp Bizcuit. I think for me that early 2000s time period really signaled the beginning of the end of my interest in newer music as I gravitated back to grunge and 80s alternative and new wave. I just think the record companies are not cultivating rock bands...real rock,. not folksy rock or electronic rock. Did find a group by the name of Highly Suspect recently who I recommend people check out if they want a return to some grungier type music.
Its also stunning to see the difference of what kids listen to at RU in the early 90s vs today....We wouldnt get caught dead listening to dance music and I think actually all guidos sort of disappeared during the grunge era. Everyone was in flannel...girls in flannel and combat boots. Melody was a great place to go to. Today is all about EDM at tailgating back then it was Pearl Jam/Nirvana and mosh pits
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I was a huge Nirvana fan, I actually had Bleach before they hit big time. won tickets to see them in Cleveland while I was at Kent St. I was on the radio and proclaimed them to be the next big thing lol...was a big MLB fan and met PJ on their first tour with RHCP. Played Public Hall in Cleveland. PJ was booed off the stage because they were unknown. The reality was PJ was amazing, and RHCP sucked. Smashing Pumpkins were ok, which was a let down I really liked them. Met Darcy that night she was hot. I digress.
Any ways, those post grunge bands you listed I hated they were rip offs of the ripoff so to speak, as grunge kinda stole from the classic rock bands. and the nu metal **** is just that. ****. I didn't even like STP. thought they were coattail riders trying to sound like Vedder. I much preferred the Supersuckers, Love Battery, Screaming Trees(way underrated). The big current acts I listen to are Clutch, Queens of the Stone Age and Hank Williams III (!).
Any ways, those post grunge bands you listed I hated they were rip offs of the ripoff so to speak, as grunge kinda stole from the classic rock bands. and the nu metal **** is just that. ****. I didn't even like STP. thought they were coattail riders trying to sound like Vedder. I much preferred the Supersuckers, Love Battery, Screaming Trees(way underrated). The big current acts I listen to are Clutch, Queens of the Stone Age and Hank Williams III (!).
I never got the STP/Pearl Jam comparisons. I felt STP was totally different in their sound. Pearl Jam shifted from Ten right from the get go. STP came out not far after PJ and I thought they were trying to emulate (rather well) Led Zeppelin
If you are going to see Garbage at the Count Basie in Red Bank, we can meet up before the show, and I will buy you a Lo Bro, and set you straight on Joni Mitchell.
Live is garbage to me, but that is what is funny about music-it can be very subjective. Ed K. seemed like an over-pretentious drama Queen.
Would not so quickly lump Bush in with Days of the New and Puddle of Mudd as "post-grunge," whatever the F that means. First, Puddle of Mudd, who I am not a fan of, formed in 1991, one year after Pearl Jam. Bush formed in 1992, and again, not really sure what "post grunge" is supposed to mean. I know there is such a category and you can find the bands you listed in this category, but I think it is a dumb category. I saw Bush last summer, I was quite impressed with their range and live show. Back in the 1990's they seemed like a cheap British imitation of Nirvana, but after seeing them live, I came away with a different view.
Agree with you on AIC and Jerry Cantrell. Jerry Cantrell did some great solo work that was overlooked. I saw him open live for Nickleback years ago--Nickleback!!!! I left after Jerry and one song into Nickleback's set.
Putting Korn into the nu metal category with Limp Bizkit is blaspheme. Yeah, there is such a category, and Korn gets lumped in, but Korn and Limp Bizkit should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Fred Durst is a twit and Limp Bizkit was a bunch of nonsense. Where are they today? Korn, on the other hand, has stood the test of time. Saw them several times, including at a small club show in Ohio before anybody knew who they were, and they were insane live. Saw them a few years ago at Starland, and they are still great live. Where is Limp Bizkit (may I LOL?).
A band that does not get a lot of play is Queens of the Stone Age. They are a solid hard rock band that formed in 1996, and included members from Kyuss and the Screaming Trees (an extremely underrated grunge band). Queens of the Stone Age is still making music and worth checking out.
Some great newer hard rock bands to check out include:
Rival Sons
Tremonti (led by the guitarist of Creed)
Rise Against
Silversun Pickups
Volbeat
Queens is great live. Big fan.
Disagree on Silversun. Saw them live last year and they completely sucked.
Disagree on Silversun. Saw them live last year and they completely sucked.
Their recorded music is decent. I can list a lot of great recording artists that absolutely suck/sucked live.
Actually, first time I saw Soundgarden in 1994, I hated them. They picked it up when they reformed.
Boston was just awful live.
I liked the early rendition of QOTSA. The bass player, Nick Oliveri, is a great player and performer. He has had several brushes with the law.
Silversun PIckups is an acquired taste due to the guy's voice. He's like Billy Corgan-lite to me. I've never seen them but I think the song Lazy Eye is a GREAT song.
I saw Live with Ed. K and without him. He's worth the drama because the replacement was nowhere near as good. However, I did see them play all of Throwing Copper and that was a lot of fun.
Korn is also a good band, I totally dig their sound. However, the guys voice can be a bit grating at times.
I've had to keep my summer touring schedule small this year due to house issues but I'll be seeing Green Day in Camden and Third Eye Blind/Silversun Pickups in Holmdel as of now.
Bac, no news about AIC and any tour dates yet. However, those summer shows were not announced until June last year so there's still a chance it happens I guess. It's always an casino show in AC.
I saw Live with Ed. K and without him. He's worth the drama because the replacement was nowhere near as good. However, I did see them play all of Throwing Copper and that was a lot of fun.
Korn is also a good band, I totally dig their sound. However, the guys voice can be a bit grating at times.
I've had to keep my summer touring schedule small this year due to house issues but I'll be seeing Green Day in Camden and Third Eye Blind/Silversun Pickups in Holmdel as of now.
Bac, no news about AIC and any tour dates yet. However, those summer shows were not announced until June last year so there's still a chance it happens I guess. It's always an casino show in AC.
None of that was directed at you. I hate the categorization of music into neat little boxes such as "heavy metal," "death metal," grunge, post-grunge, nu-metal, etc. The funny thing to me is a lot of those categories parse out metal and hard rock into a lot of unnecessary categories, and IMO, is just some critics' (MSM?!!!!) way of diminishing the accomplishment of hard rock.
This discussion has been had ad nauseum about how the R&R Hall of Fame has admitted a lot of acts that are not rock and roll, but left acts like Deep Purple and Black Sabbath waiting at the door for a very long time and have yet to admit Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. Also, Soundgarden had been nominated at least once, and it is odd that one of the forefathers of the movement, Chris Cornell, is not in the hall, while second-comers Pearl Jam are in. I have nothing against Pearl Jam, just think that Soundgarden>>>>>than Pearl Jam. Soundgarden hurt their chances by breaking up in 1997 and not reforming until recently. Also, if we are considering "categories," never understood why Soundgarden was considered grunge music. To me, and many others, it is pure metal, so maybe it is grunge-metal. This just highlights the ridiculousness of the various categories.
Whoa. I've liked the silversun pickups for awhile but never really listened to it -- I always thought the lead singer was a chick. I just watched some videos because of this post, and I am still surprised. Watching that dude sing it doesn't look like that voice is coming from him.
Posted this on the current events board, as well. Chris Cornell was a huge fan and friend of the late, great Jeff Buckley. Jeff died 20 years ago, this month -- crazy to think of the wonderful music he would have made. At least we have Grace . . .
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scratch what I said I was thinkng of the guy from Creed trying to sing like Eddie. Don't know how I confused them with STP :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
I am of the opinion if you can't put it down live, you're a fake artist.
Technology can make anyone sound good when recorded. Let's see it in front of an audience.
I am always amazed when I see certain voices coming from people. George Ezra is another.
I'm encouraged in hearing that Clutch is still putting out good stuff because I haven't heard them since.....seemingly forever. I will see them later this summer sharing a bill with Primus.
And Ed from Live was an a-hole. I was one of about 20 people seeing them at Tradewinds way way way back when, before they had their first hit. Friend of mine gave the usual, "hey, nice set" while he was standing by the bar and was rudely blown off. Other band members came up to us to apologize and said that he is just "like that."
I listen to a lot of new "alternative" bands on XM but like others have said, even though I tried several times to listen to EDM, I just don't get it.
And Ed from Live was an a-hole. I was one of about 20 people seeing them at Tradewinds way way way back when, before they had their first hit. Friend of mine gave the usual, "hey, nice set" while he was standing by the bar and was rudely blown off. Other band members came up to us to apologize and said that he is just "like that."
I listen to a lot of new "alternative" bands on XM but like others have said, even though I tried several times to listen to EDM, I just don't get it.
I could not disagree more with this.
40 years of guitar playing has taught me what Joe says in the intro of this video. BTW, he does the song so well in this live video. I write all my songs sitting down FYI.
Can't wait to see Volbeat at Starland in July. I can usually only take metal/hard rock in small doses but I like almost everything I've ever heard from Volbeat. Their tunes are so damn melodic, which is rare for that genre.
Chris Cornell doing U2'S ONE SUBSTITUTING Metallica's One
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