Poor Kaepernick..

madchuck

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I wouldn't say he's been completely blackballed. Adrian Peterson hasn't been signed yet. A lot of teams will wait to see what they can get in the draft, wait to see what happens with Romo before taking Kaepernick. I just think it's a little disingenuous for some people to act like Kaepernick is this terrible football player. Yes, he has regressed since leading the Niners to the Superbowl but if you watched 49ers games, he actually didn't play bad last year. He had 17 touchdowns and 4 interceptions and only played 11 games. He was light years better than Blaine Gabbert (which isn't saying much). Kaepernick has done more than Mike Glennon has ever done.
 
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DJ Spanky

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Kaepernick had every right to kneel and protest. I just wonder why he decided to announce he was ending his kneeling protest just a few days before free agency started. Crazy timing. Maybe he feels everything has turned around in the country the last couple of months since the season ended.
I think he's got such faith in his favored presidential candidate who got elected that he felt his protests had been successful.
 

madchuck

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It goes both ways though. He can protest and nobody stopped his right to protest. However, he doesn't have a constitutional right to play football. In fact, the team could've told him if they didn't stand they would cut him. So owners have a right not to sign him if they don't want to. I just think he's better than a lot of QB's out there and teams would be foolish to at least not give him a look.
 

koleszar

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Kaepernick had every right to kneel and protest. I just wonder why he decided to announce he was ending his kneeling protest just a few days before free agency started. Crazy timing. Maybe he feels everything has turned around in the country the last couple of months since the season ended.
It's no longer the media flavor of the month. Trump's this months flavor.
 
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hiwater

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I wouldn't say he's been completely blackballed. Adrian Peterson hasn't been signed yet. A lot of teams will wait to see what they can get in the draft, wait to see what happens with Romo before taking Kaepernick. I just think it's a little disingenuous for some people to act like Kaepernick is this terrible football player. Yes, he has regressed since leading the Niners to the Superbowl but if you watched 49ers games, he actually didn't play bad last year. He had 17 touchdowns and 4 interceptions and only played 11 games. He was light years better than Blaine Gabbert (which isn't saying much). Kaepernick has done more than Mike Glennon has ever done.
Cutler and RGIII are not signed yet either. He and the others will be signed eventually. Definitely after the draft.
 

RU05

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Not so much the method, but the cause.
I think the problem was very much the method. Many US citizens take great offense when someone disrespects the country/flag/national anthem. Kap played it poorly, and in doing so did the cause a disfavor.
 

Perricone7

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I'm not even sure Kaepernick has regressed all that much. The Niners front office has been a disaster since Harbaugh left. That team was atrocious last year and would've made any QB look bad. If Mike Glennon is getting $15 million a year, Kaepernick certainly deserves at least a top-end backup role.
 

madchuck

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I'm not even sure Kaepernick has regressed all that much. The Niners front office has been a disaster since Harbaugh left. That team was atrocious last year and would've made any QB look bad. If Mike Glennon is getting $15 million a year, Kaepernick certainly deserves at least a top-end backup role.

I'm pretty sure any QB on the niners last year would've been horrible. Jeremy Kerley was their #1 receiver.
 

NBKnight

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I'm not even sure Kaepernick has regressed all that much. The Niners front office has been a disaster since Harbaugh left. That team was atrocious last year and would've made any QB look bad. If Mike Glennon is getting $15 million a year, Kaepernick certainly deserves at least a top-end backup role.

Could be right in Kaepernick's case.
 

RU05

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I'm not even sure Kaepernick has regressed all that much. The Niners front office has been a disaster since Harbaugh left. That team was atrocious last year and would've made any QB look bad. If Mike Glennon is getting $15 million a year, Kaepernick certainly deserves at least a top-end backup role.

Statistically he hasn't regressed. But even under Harbaugh he never really showed progress either. In 2014 he's at 60% comp, 3365 yrds, 19-10 td-int. He did run for more yards, but for less td's.

But I agree his talent level would suggest he got a spot somewhere in the league.
 

AntiG

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I'm pretty sure any QB on the niners last year would've been horrible. Jeremy Kerley was their #1 receiver.
By far too. Torrey Smith was barely useful and their TEs (while very athletic) have bricks for hands. Additionally, Hyde was injured every other game and the very good offensive line was constantly rotating out with injury. Despite that, Kaepernick put up a better season than several starters around the league and actually had the offense moving. He's a good NFL QB. Not an elite one, but a good one.
 
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LETSGORU91_

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I think the problem was very much the method. Many US citizens take great offense when someone disrespects the country/flag/national anthem. Kap played it poorly, and in doing so did the cause a disfavor.

Ditto
 

bitnez

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By far too. Torrey Smith was barely useful and their TEs (while very athletic) have bricks for hands. Additionally, Hyde was injured every other game and the very good offensive line was constantly rotating out with injury. Despite that, Kaepernick put up a better season than several starters around the league and actually had the offense moving. He's a good NFL QB. Not an elite one, but a good one.

Every QB moves the ball in Chip's offense. He made Foles look like a player. SF had terrible talent last year but Kap went from a guy who made winning plays to a guy who didn't and that's why he still sitting around.
 

madchuck

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Every QB moves the ball in Chip's offense. He made Foles look like a player. SF had terrible talent last year but Kap went from a guy who made winning plays to a guy who didn't and that's why he still sitting around.

Did you see Blaine Gabbert in that offense?
 
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czxqa

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I can't say if I agree with his method or not but I struggle with the concept that it is inappropriate for an athlete. If he were a line cook, would it be any more appropriate or not?
If you went to a restaurant and the serviceable but uninspired line cook came out and hijacked your evening out with some sort of political grandstanding, would you be more or less inclined to return to that restaurant? Further, if he left there, would the restaurateur down the block have reservations about hiring him?
 
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Harambe_be_my_qb

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If you went to a restaurant and the serviceable but uninspired line cook came out and hijacked your evening out with some sort of political grandstanding, would you be more or less inclined to return to that restaurant? Further, if he left there, would the restaurateur down the block have reservations about hiring him?
For an analogy this tortured you should be on trial in the Hague.
 

KT8813

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If he did his protesting before he was an NFL QB you'd excuse him of being a Soros paid protester. Can't win with people like you.

BUT HE DIDN'T DID HE? Your comment makes no sense but "people like me know people like your agenda" And did you mean accuse or are you sticking with excuse?
 
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yesrutgers01

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If you went to a restaurant and the serviceable but uninspired line cook came out and hijacked your evening out with some sort of political grandstanding, would you be more or less inclined to return to that restaurant? Further, if he left there, would the restaurateur down the block have reservations about hiring him?

His right(except that Kaepernick did nothing that affected the enjoyment of the game to fans) my right, owners right.

BTW - except for the SB, how many games televise the NA anyway?
 

Harambe_be_my_qb

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Sorry, did I kick another sacred cow too hard? Here's a few more: Ray Rice and Tiger Woods
Ray Rice did something that was criminal even if he wasn't charged. And what does Tiger Woods have to do with anything? They keep on inviting him to play golf even though he has been bad at it for years.
 

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The crux of the issue is not that Kaepernick made a statement during the anthem. The crux of it is -- he's a MORON and has repeatedly said and done idiotic things. If he offered a carefully considered rationale and actually demonstrated some introspection throughout this process then perhaps, the whole country wouldn't think the guy was an idiot.
 

AntiG

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Not one player said anything publicly about his protest.
They did, but more along the lines that they liked him and respected him more due to being willing to put his reputation on the line for a cause.
 

madchuck

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They did, but more along the lines that they liked him and respected him more due to being willing to put his reputation on the line for a cause.

I meant not one player said anything bad about him publicly. So I don't know how this guy is saying he has personal knowledge that Kaepernick was a bad teammate. Unless he's in the locker room on the 49ers, then I don't know what he's talking about. In fact, both Harbaugh and Chip Kelly both supported him as a football player.