Rutgers vs Michigan State / Game Thread

bossnj1

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If you think these continual humiliating outcomes are the result of lack of talent alone, you are deluding yourselves. The mark of a good coach is to put a respectable product on the field with whatever you have to work with. I'm not saying you need to win, especially right away, just give the fan base and incoming recruits a reason to be hopeful. Sorry, but I haven't seen that even for one moment this season.
 

CELL BLOCK R

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Agreed that we have a huge lack of big ten talent.
But to be virtually out of games this year after 1 qtr is beyond words
Did new Hampshire have better talent when they made us look pathetic? Or was it coaching?
Hope he can recruit
 

TM514

Junior
Nov 6, 2006
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Time to rake leaves
Regardless of the level of talent he has to work with, Ash and staff are learning on the job - there is no single reason for losing like this - it is a combination of many different facets of subpar performance, no different than having a winning combination that requires a total package of coaching and talent. It is what we have to accept for the next 2 to 3 years
This fan base doesnt have patience for 3 years. Must get 6 wins by year 3 or Ash gone. This is not the 2000s with Greg and watching the process.
 

RUgrad

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Nov 27, 2011
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The recruiting problem is well, a problem. What happens now is that the verbals we have start looking around. The better players, the ones who can get other comparable or better offers, will leave. After that our recruiting class is left with only the players who didn't have any better schools. In essence we become a self full-filling prophecy, where our recruiting class is filled with the kids who were a stretch to play at this level anyway.
 

AreYouNUTS

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
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Our punt/kick game absolutely KILLS us. We are constantly in bad field position and constantly giving our opponents GREAT field position. This is one of our biggest problems right now. No question.
 

Rutgers25

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Jul 29, 2001
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This program will never turn it around because we require a larger than life coach to ov
If you think these continual humiliating outcomes are the result of lack of talent alone, you are deluding yourselves. The mark of a good coach is to put a respectable product on the field with whatever you have to work with. I'm not saying you need to win, especially right away, just give the fan base and incoming recruits a reason to be hopeful. Sorry, but I haven't seen that even for one moment this season.

Exactly...do people think Purdue has more talent? Yet, they manage to not get completely embarrassed even though they still lose.
 

RUSK97

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Agreed that we have a huge lack of big ten talent.
But to be virtually out of games this year after 1 qtr is beyond words
Did new Hampshire have better talent when they made us look pathetic? Or was it coaching?
Hope he can recruit
UNH had an awesome OC who had had a few years to put his system in place by 2004. That same OC didn't do a whole lot when the Philly Eagles didn't have the right personnel.
 
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G- RUnit

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Cioffi's play has nothing to do with coaching. He is just not very good in coverage. That is why he is the strong safety and not the free safety. He has played poorly this year and at times has played soft and shyer away from playing physical.

And now the other D backs getting burned left and right. I did not expect a win but not 28-0 to a bad MSU team at half time. It's not all talent. It's alot of poor coaching too.
 

Abro1975

Heisman
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Jonb127

Junior
Sep 30, 2012
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Our punt/kick game absolutely KILLS us. We are constantly in bad field position and constantly giving our opponents GREAT field position. This is one of our biggest problems right now. No question.

Yes. That's the main issue. Can't tackle, block, throw, catch, coach, go 2 plays without commuting a penalty, but kicking is the biggest issue. I mean it sucks but so does everything else.
 

koleszar

Heisman
Jan 1, 2010
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A guy sitting 3yds to our LB's left and he doesn't see him till the balls thrown? That's horrible recognition. These players are just not good.
 

RUnewjersey

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If you think these continual humiliating outcomes are the result of lack of talent alone, you are deluding yourselves. The mark of a good coach is to put a respectable product on the field with whatever you have to work with. I'm not saying you need to win, especially right away, just give the fan base and incoming recruits a reason to be hopeful. Sorry, but I haven't seen that even for one moment this season.

So good to read this! Bossnj gets it!
 
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AreYouNUTS

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
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Yes. That's the main issue. Can't tackle, block, throw, catch, coach, go 2 plays without commuting a penalty, but kicking is the biggest issue. I mean it sucks but so does everything else.

You obviously missed my point but that's okay.
 

RU206

All-American
Jan 23, 2015
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Ash doesn't realize that he needs to blitz. Try yo stop the run and pressure the QB. At this point who cares if the DBs get beat in 1:1 coverage.
 

D1ESEL44

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Aug 1, 2014
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If you think these continual humiliating outcomes are the result of lack of talent alone, you are deluding yourselves. The mark of a good coach is to put a respectable product on the field with whatever you have to work with. I'm not saying you need to win, especially right away, just give the fan base and incoming recruits a reason to be hopeful. Sorry, but I haven't seen that even for one moment this season.

You didn't see it once? Took Minnesota deep into the 4th quarter. Was beating Indiana in the 4th quarter. Tied with Iowa in the 4th quarter. Yeah there were some ugly games but you need to pump the brakes on the hopelessness
 

RU206

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Jan 23, 2015
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I turned on the Florida South Carolina game. The Gators have athletes all over the field. They should be better.
 
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