This might sound crazy....

AreYouNUTS

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I don't understand how Europeans eat and provide shelter for themselves. All I hear is how they don't work and we work 24/7.

I must be missing something.

(I miss NJ as well. But I would never return = taxes)

Less days in the office = happier people = more productive when in the office. Americans (in offices), I'd bet, probably spend a far higher % of their time while IN the office, doing nothing productive, than do their European counterparts.
 

FanuSanu52

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Less days in the office = happier people = more productive when in the office. Americans (in offices), I'd bet, probably spend a far higher % of their time while IN the office, doing nothing productive, than do their European counterparts.

I'd bet that's true. Both the Germans and Swiss have always struck me as highly industrious and very serious about work. Americans seem more hit or miss in this regard. Germans also seem better organized.
 

RU848789

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Less days in the office = happier people = more productive when in the office. Americans (in offices), I'd bet, probably spend a far higher % of their time while IN the office, doing nothing productive, than do their European counterparts.
Do you mean like posting on this board, lol? Most days I barely read or post from about 7:30 am until 6:30 pm (an "average" day at work), as I'm busy working. And I'm pretty sure my management is happy to see me doing work off hours in the evenings and weekends, even if they say, no, no, don't worry about it.

I guarantee I/we are getting more done than our coworkers in Ireland or France (have been to those locations many times and seen the lack of production vs. myself and people in my group). We may not be happier, but I know we're more productive.
 

RU848789

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Only Asian countries are obsessive about work more than Americans.

Not where I work - our friends in China, India, Japan, and Korea are all well behind what we're doing here and the Europeans? Way behind. I'm not saying which is "better" as that's a personal judgment - just stating facts on work ethic/productivity at my company vs. our vendors/partners in other countries.
 

FanuSanu52

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Not where I work - our friends in China, India, Japan, and Korea are all well behind what we're doing here and the Europeans? Way behind. I'm not saying which is "better" as that's a personal judgment - just stating facts on work ethic/productivity at my company vs. our vendors/partners in other countries.

To use another example, look at the automotive industry:

Hyundai has transformed from a cheap, POS joke to an award-winning company with reliable cars and a luxury brand in about 30 years. Japanese brands did the same thing before them.

In that same timeframe, American carmakers have rested on their laurels, let their reputation for reliability slip to second-tier status, become an afterthought in the luxury market, and gotten bailed out by the federal government.

Not arguing your experience or saying this is indicative of anything greater, as I think it varies company to company, industry to industry.
 

FanuSanu52

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As for Europeans, Germans have taken the lead in our luxury market and have also jumped ahead most other global companies on autonomous tech.
 

MozRU

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Less days in the office = happier people = more productive when in the office. Americans (in offices), I'd bet, probably spend a far higher % of their time while IN the office, doing nothing productive, than do their European counterparts.
See you are Indy. Purple lot still?
 

RutgersSam

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I miss New Jersey, I haven't been in the state in years but I seriously miss it.

Why do you think missing NJ is crazy? Implicit in your statement is that you didn't think you'd miss NJ. I think THAT is even crazier.

I've traveled the world with the military and always knew I'd miss NJ and the shore. It's a great place that too many of the self deprecating, prideless Jerseyites take for granted.
 

ashokan

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North Jersey in fall is pretty nice,. The area around Phil Simms house is one of nicest I've seen
 
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You're in Geneva, right? Someone over in Switzerland told me that the whole "Swiss trains" stereotype is more on the German side of the country. I didn't find it to ring true in Geneva in a few trips there, but it sounds like maybe your experience is different.

I must be in the minority ... don't miss NJ much at all. I miss specific things, like pizza, fresh seafood, and family and friends. But then I think of flat land, humidity, traffic, ridiculous property costs/taxes and so on, and the idea of moving back makes me wake up in cold sweats. Like to visit for maybe two weeks every year or two, but am always glad to get home.

Yes I'm in Geneva and the Swiss-German part is definitely more punctual and "efficient" (something something joke about neighbors). Yeah there are delays here and there, and traffic in the city is terrible (by design). But dedicated/exclusive bus lanes and an incredible tram system puts all that stuff to rest.

Things I miss: (Apart from friends/family)

-Tailgating for a Rutgers football game w. friends and other RU fans : Watching RU in person, or a big time game at a reasonable hour. ( I haven't seen a Superbowl or National Title game live since moving here as they start at 2 A.M - but did watch (and regret) watching primetime RU games).

-A wide selection of beers (an I.P.A or two) on tap at a bar.

-Good/authentic "ethnic" food. Brazilian rodizio in Newark, Korean food in North Jersey, Vietnamese Pho. NYC in general.

-On that note. Real buffalo wings and NY/NJ pizza, and fried chicken. European KFC's are these fake bastardized versions of the real thing.

-Amazon - specifically Amazon prime.
 

jerseysocal

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Been living in So. Calif for about 30 years and , yes I do miss NJ. Maybe its the pizza, the bagels or change of seasons. But mostly I think its the people, they are more genuine. I'll be back for the Indiana game. Can you have some nice autumn weather, my wife hates the cold.
 

KJRU

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Please tell me you tried the Schnitzel at Tacheles... It's probably the best "pork" dish I've had outside of a Tonkatsu I got in Tokyo.
I definitely had it, I loved the bretzels also. Actually one of the best foods I had were Gyro's from a little shack right outside the gate.
 

BoroKnight

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I've lived in Southern Nevada for four-plus years now, with one year in between spent in Maine. And as much as I love New Jersey, I miss Maine more. I just seemed to fit better up there, with people who generally like to be left alone, amazing scenery and awesome seafood.

Las Vegas is ... um ... well? ... not New Jersey, although there are a lot of strip malls and condos so sometimes it looks like New Jersey. But no seasons is probably the worst, followed by the fact you can't just go for a drive and meander since there is like one road in each direction leaving town and all are in total desert within minutes.

Missing New Jersey is not crazy. It would be crazy if you didn't. The only thing keeping most of us from staying and loving it is the high cost of living.
 

FanuSanu52

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I've lived in Southern Nevada for four-plus years now, with one year in between spent in Maine. And as much as I love New Jersey, I miss Maine more. I just seemed to fit better up there, with people who generally like to be left alone, amazing scenery and awesome seafood.

Las Vegas is ... um ... well? ... not New Jersey, although there are a lot of strip malls and condos so sometimes it looks like New Jersey. But no seasons is probably the worst, followed by the fact you can't just go for a drive and meander since there is like one road in each direction leaving town and all are in total desert within minutes.

Missing New Jersey is not crazy. It would be crazy if you didn't. The only thing keeping most of us from staying and loving it is the high cost of living.

Nevada seems like a really weird place. A few cities and gambling towns scattered around the borders and a whole lot of nothing in between. Believe it has the most public land and most mountain ranges of any of the states. Must be quite different from Maine!