What are realistic expectations for next season? With a lot of young players gaining a year of experience and Sanders hopefully taking a big step in year two we should be better. Add in the injured players coming back who missed most or all of last season like Doorson Diallo Freeman and a better X and O coach who stresses defensive and I think we have a shot at being a lot better but what can we realistically expect? .500?
Realistic expectations for next season
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Short answer: yes. I think with everyone coming back we can be .500 next season. But that's if things break our away. Realistically anywhere from 12-15 wins.
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When William F. Buckley ran for Mayor of NYC, he was asked, "Conservatively speaking, how many votes do you expect to get?" He responded, "Conservatively speaking, one."
I'm hoping for 500, but what I really want to see is us playing smart basketball, playing hard, and playing as a team.
I'm hoping for 500, but what I really want to see is us playing smart basketball, playing hard, and playing as a team.
My hope: All players return; no defections and Thiam comes to the Banks...
My expectation: If the above holds - then a competitive squad in the 9-12th place range in Big 10 Play
My expectation: If the above holds - then a competitive squad in the 9-12th place range in Big 10 Play
Expect nothing, meaning we will 5-7 games, and you will pleasantly surprised. Seriously hopefully the era of "bonehead basketball" will come to an end and we will see a team that plays fundamentally sound, defensively aggressive BB. I can live with that, until the talent gets upgraded.
I may not be deep into basketball like some of you, but after watching the B1G teams, I don't see why Rutgers can't make big improvements. The B1G lack real guards who can handle the ball under pressure. If this new coach can get the team to play solid defense with strong on the ball defense I see improvement to the middle third of the B1G. Mike Williams has to continue to hit 3s like he did at the end of the season. He has the ability and with Sanders they can be a major headache for the rest of the B1G. The frontcourt has to stay healthy and improve some because anything they give is a bonus. I think the key to winning in the B1G and even having success in the NCAA tournament is to have quick creative athletic players at the 1,2 and 3 positions with range on their shots.
Freeman and Sanders were each suspended or disciplined twice.
If you are a realist you don't count on them.
Forget expectations. Measure success differently.
If you are a realist you don't count on them.
Forget expectations. Measure success differently.
If were not in the field of 68, that's ridiculous. Just kidding.
Competiveness and effort would be GREAT!
Competiveness and effort would be GREAT!
I'll put the over/under at 13.5/4.5 (total/conference wins) and would be very happy to get to 14/5 as it would be a HUGE jump from this season. Expecting more, IMHO, isn't being very realistic regardless of the injuries this year and next year's roster. The biggest thing is to see improvement in all facets of the game and fundamentals, smarts on the court, passion, and no quitting.
You can expect no more fifty point losses, that's for sure, no matter how under manned we will be
As the roster is currently constructed, in my opinion, our ceiling is 13 wins. We'll see if our new coach can teach this group how to play perimeter defense, box out, and fight for position under the basket. Without at least one consistent three point shooter, we're not going anywhere.
I'm very concerned about the center position. All we have coming back is Diallo who was NOT good when he played early in the season (throw out the final few games) and Doorson who just got his walking boot off a few weeks ago after a freshman campaign where he was a 10 minute per game backup. We don't have the luxury of a Jack or a Lewis to move to center next year. The power forwards on the roster (Freeman/Foreman) are not capable of matching up with centers in our league. If we don't get a mature physical juco-type big guy we are going to be in a world of hurt even IF Diallo and Doorson are able to return at full strength.
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Getting to .500+ would take a minor miracle and there was no way in hell EJ was doing that next year. None. Can the new guy? We'll see and, if he does, he will be the "gem" we've been looking for no doubt!
.500 realistic? No. Possible? Yes. If RU doubles their wins that would be a good season. Year 2-3, 500+ yes.
People were thinking that 10-12 wins was possible with EJ at the helm... 12-14 wins is definitely reasonable with a head coach that stresses defense and fundamentals. If they get there and look better in the process, then it'll be a successful first year. I'm talking about making blowouts the exception rather than a regular occurrence and a defense that doesn't give up 15-20 open threes a game. If he does that, then we'll clearly be on the right track.
Why is it mentioned that Sanders was suspended twice? The first game of the season was because he played in a game last summer which was not sanctioned by the NCAA. It was reported earlier that Corey was told the game was approved and than after he participated in the game was told it wasn't approved. I don't see where that was his fault. Yes he fouled up and got suspended for 4 games but hopefully he learned from his mistake.
I think 12 wins is realistic provided Sanders comes back and we don't have more than one player or so transfer out. With Jordan there would be no way we win more than about 10 games. Pikiell should be coach of the year if this group is .500.
I see some are revving expectations up. I think we hope foelr 13-18 and getting 4 conference wins. I expect to finish 13th or 14th
I have a question too, how many wins would Stony Brook have had if
they had our Big Ten schedule?
they had our Big Ten schedule?
If the roster is intact
If the coaches have a major off season of player development
16-15 is the goal
If the coaches have a major off season of player development
16-15 is the goal
Zero juice in the program and a dead RAC again is my forecast. In typical Rutgers fashion, we under-hired and acted like an Atlantic 10 program again...2 conferences ago. One thing in the new coach's favor is having one of the best guards in the league return, assuming he returns. Otherwise I'd like to see what kind of assistant coaching hires and recruits he musters early on, because there's nothing to realistically suggest major improvement next season.
I said suspended or disciplined. he was disciplined and lost his starting job. i forgot Jordan's terms. Was it a warning that occurred before the suspension?
I agree with this. But, despite public statements to the contrary, there is still the risk that Sanders or others will transfer which will make winning very tough next year. I sure hope Pikiell can keep everyone in the fold.
Get ready to be a last place Big 10 team next year and maybe even the year after. 3-15 type of team in conference at least next year.
Goal is to be more competitive and specifically to begin upgrading the roster. That is going to take time and will also require a class A staff.
But he needs time.
Goal is to be more competitive and specifically to begin upgrading the roster. That is going to take time and will also require a class A staff.
But he needs time.
I fully agree with you. I think its type of play, playing defense and not getting blown out where RU cuts the gap. Schools do not go from 7 wins to 16 in one season without a big time infusion of talent. RU still would have won at least 10 games with Jordan and maybe Jordan got them to 12 which RU could win with Pikiell but I think what next season is setting up is the foundation and groundwork for the future. Pikiell's 12 wins are going to be more beneificial to the program than Eddie's 12.
and a team that has lost so much has to learn to win, its not going to be easy to do that at first. Minnesota was not a bad team at all for most of the season. They played extremely competitive single digit games against top schools in the Big 10 and yet they wound up with just 2 wins. Id like to see closer losses much like Minny had this year and Id like to see RU be able to handle non conference opponents without life death struggles against the Central Arkansas of the world
I really disagree with many of you
We have plenty of raw basketball skills that need a large dose of micro and macro coaching....and develop toughness
We were a young team before the injuries. Painfully young. People forget that....
IMO ...we were a 11-20 team without the injuries
So when you considers that...it's not a stretch to go from 11-20 to 16-15 with experience
This team with GOOD coaching can be that next year.....
But it depends on keeping the roster intact, good coaching, and the players buying in....
Easier said than done
But possible....
We have plenty of raw basketball skills that need a large dose of micro and macro coaching....and develop toughness
We were a young team before the injuries. Painfully young. People forget that....
IMO ...we were a 11-20 team without the injuries
So when you considers that...it's not a stretch to go from 11-20 to 16-15 with experience
This team with GOOD coaching can be that next year.....
But it depends on keeping the roster intact, good coaching, and the players buying in....
Easier said than done
But possible....
Shack, who's our best shooter and what was his fg% and 3pt.%?
You can teach this group many things but shooting isn't one of them. We'll play better D but without consistent shooting, I don't know how we c I NE close to .500.
I agree with Bac and Mis. We will see progress regarding fundemental, but it really won't trandlaye into a significantly better W/L record.
You can teach this group many things but shooting isn't one of them. We'll play better D but without consistent shooting, I don't know how we c I NE close to .500.
I agree with Bac and Mis. We will see progress regarding fundemental, but it really won't trandlaye into a significantly better W/L record.
This seems like a tough question to answer before a staff is in place. Give the guy a week or two before completely writing off the next season or two.
For us to be decent (.500) next year, Williams will need to shoot 10x better than he did this year and Goode will have to shoot 100x better (just shooting would be nice). These are the ONLY two "shooters" we have returning to the roster next season. Uphill battle without shooters. Though I douby-lieve we can easily improve our lay-up percentage.
this team was bad in all aspects. Its going to be a steep learning curve. Jordan allowed them to freelance on offense besides the few set plays they ran. There was no emphasis on defense, rebounding and discipline. The players are all going to have learn this from a new coach. The good thing is Pikiell can coach so it will happen. The bad thing is it takes time and a 7 win team is going to take time to learn how to win and shake off all of the bad habits learned from the previous regime. It may be ugly early. Perhaps its not but I cannot expect the team to just do a 180