Oregon State in as a 7 seed

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so their 26 year nightmare is finally over. How did that happen?

New coach in his first season .
Second season. He was hired after Oregon State fired Oscar Robinson, Michelle Obama's brother, when 14-18, 21-15 and 16-16 in his final 3 seasons. Rutgers would give a lifetime contract for those results.

Their arena was built in 1949. It was renovated in 2009.
New practice facility in 2013, which cost $15 Million, and it took fund raising $11 Million. Helps to have Gary Payton and AC Green as alums.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/i...n_state_celebrates_openin.html#incart_m-rpt-2
 
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JPhoboken

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Everyone knows here, due to many poster's insistence, you can't go to the dance in the 2nd year of a new coach. This must be a misprint.
 

RUChoppin

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Amazing to think they've actually been slightly worse than we have over their drought.

Since they last went to the tournament, they've gone 331-451 (42.3%) across 8 coaches.

Since we last went to the tournament, we've gone 331-426 (43.7%) across 6 coaches

The last 5 years are much more telling, though:
OSU: 87-75 (53.7%)
RU: 58-102 (36.3%)
 
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Knight Shift

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Amazing to think they've actually been slightly worse than we have over their drought.

Since they last went to the tournament, they've gone 331-451 (42.3%) across 8 coaches.

Since we last went to the tournament, we've gone 331-426 (43.7%) across 6 coaches

The last 5 years are much more telling, though:
OSU: 87-75 (53.7%)
RU: 58-102 (36.3%)
Sometimes you need to get worse before you can get better?
 

TDIrish27

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Kind of silly that they get a 7 seed. I could see them as a 10 but 7 way too high.

The committee is telling us they are one of the best 30 teams in the country.

Show me their quality road wins-----lost to Valpo at home.
 

Knight Shift

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Wayne f'ing Tinkle.

2nd year though
Maybe we can go after their previous coach, Craig Robinson. His PAC-12 conference record was 8-10 in his final season, and he went 51-49 in his final 3 seasons.
He recruited Devon Collier and Halice Cook from St. Anthony's in Jersey City. His W-L record in not the stuff of legends, but he played at Princeton, and his daughter is a freshman forward on the Princeton Basketball team, so he has connections.
 
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Kind of silly that they get a 7 seed. I could see them as a 10 but 7 way too high.

The committee is telling us they are one of the best 30 teams in the country.

Show me their quality road wins-----lost to Valpo at home.[/QUOTE

OK, how about wins over the following, all of which are in the tournament as well:
Oregon (#1 seed), USC, Utah, Cal, Tulsa. Non tourney teams beaten include UCLA on the road and Washington.
How's that for quality?
 

TDIrish27

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You didn't answer the question-----show me the ROAD wins.

You're supposed to win at home if you're an NCAA tourney team.

The road wins define how good you are IMO and if UCLA is their quality road win you answered my question .
 

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The Selection Committee was enamored with the Pac 12 this year. Why? I don't know. Oregon, a 1 seed over Michigan St? No way.
 
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You didn't answer the question-----show me the ROAD wins.

You're supposed to win at home if you're an NCAA tourney team.

The road wins define how good you are IMO and if UCLA is their quality road win you answered my question .
Well the committee made it prettying clear that they value wins over Top 50 teams. No way you can demean OSU's record and wins over these top 25 teams simply because they lost road games to conference opponents in a very strong conference.( and then beat most of those teams at home). And it's not as if the Beavs didn't win on the road. They won at Rice, UC Santa Barbara, and Stanford as well as at Pauley. They also played at Kansas and got whooped. They may not have been road warriors but they're resume is pretty strong. Home wins against Top 25 teams are not automatic. Speaking of expectation, the Beavs were the underdog in their biggest home wins.

Edit: I also neglected to mention wins over Colorado and Iona- two more teams that are dancing.
 
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TDIrish27

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A shame they aren't playing the tournament in Corvallis.

Rice ? UCSB ?

Really ?

Funny how most of the board downplays Monmouth beating UCLA at Pauley but for Oregon State it's a quality win.
 

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A shame they aren't playing the tournament in Corvallis.

Rice ? UCSB ?

Really ?

Funny how most of the board downplays Monmouth beating UCLA at Pauley but for Oregon State it's a quality win.

. No doubt UCLA's season ending swoon lessens the value of a win over them, but don't tell Kentucky, which as a #1 went into Pauley and got beat.

y'mean that Monmouth team that beat ND?
 
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TDIrish27

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Yes the Monmouth team that beat ND-----and 2 other NCAA teams------on the road.

I know that hardly stacks up to Rice and UCSB but I found it to be a noteworthy achievement.
 

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Yes the Monmouth team that beat ND-----and 2 other NCAA teams------on the road.

I know that hardly stacks up to Rice and UCSB but I found it to be a noteworthy achievement.
What is noteworthy about losing to a team that lost 3 games to teams outside of the Top 200? That's how much the committee valued that win over ND on a neutral site; truly noteworthy.
UCSB finished 18-13 and beat tourny bound Iona- on a neutral court..Rice was horrible, say, like Boston College horrible.
 

TDIrish27

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Monmouth beat them at Iona.

Mighty Syracuse lost to St John's-----that alone should have eliminated them.

Stop changing the subject-----they beat NO ONE away from Corvallis. That was my original premise.

I'm glad they're in---it's a good story-----but a 7 seed is ridiculous.

The committee showed on 3 occasions that it was agenda driven cronyism at it's finest.

Vandy , Tulsa and Cuse don't belong-------that's a consensus from every expert but we have only 1 guy on the committee who's ever coached. The other guys are AD's who make deals with one another to support putting schools from their leagues in.

They don't know if the ball is pumped up or stuffed.
 

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so what does that say about ND losing to Cuse by 15

Given where OSU is coming from road victories against UCLA and Stanford should not be scoffed at-even if both of those programs had sub-par seasons.

I have VCU beating OSU in the 1st round. The bookies have the Rams as a 4.5 point favorite.
 

TDIrish27

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We lost to FSU worse------we're a mediocre team-------at best.

One of Brey's best coaching jobs to squeeze 20 wins out of this team.

Any win we get going forward is a surprise to me. If we get a win Friday that will be it-----WVU way too good for us.

Injury to one of their better guys has affected VCU-------50/50 game IMO.