DO NOT look at the season team stats

[Scarlet Shack]

...especially defense

It is that painful

You have been warned

 

[RUJMM78]

...especially defense

It is that painful

You have been warned

No stat has more resonance than losing every league game.

 

[ruman]

...especially defense

It is that painful

You have been warned

Wrong

Look at them very intently. Don't care who comes back, we won't play defense with the current staff

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

From a statistical standpoint the offense is as bad or worse. the PPG is a bit padded based on the pace of play we play. We are equally inefficient offensively.

This is nothing new. Day 1 in the Jordan regime was a lack of attention to defense. Combine the roster he put together and the lack of attention and accountability on the defensive end. JJ Moore, Bishop Daniels, and Omari Greer came from other places where primarily they lost minutes because of defense.

This stuff is in the culture of the organization. It started with Moore, Jack and Mack and has continued with the new faces.

Everything needs to be gutted and started new. It is like mold. Players forget what it takes to get stops on the defensive end.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

From a statistical standpoint the offense is as bad or worse. the PPG is a bit padded based on the pace of play we play. We are equally inefficient offensively.

This is nothing new. Day 1 in the Jordan regime was a lack of attention to defense. Combine the roster he put together and the lack of attention and accountability on the defensive end. JJ Moore, Bishop Daniels, and Omari Greer came from other places where primarily they lost minutes because of defense.

This stuff is in the culture of the organization. It started with Moore, Jack and Mack and has continued with the new faces.

Everything needs to be gutted and started new. It is like mold. Players forget what it takes to get stops on the defensive end.

"Moldy" is a fair assessment.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

looked at the Northwestern game....we gave up 98 points in 65 possessions..over 1 1/2 points per possession. Anybody who says the players haven't quit is delusional. That is an unheard of number.

we gave up 1.25 points per possession on the 60 point loss to Louisvile in year 1.

 

[G- RUnit]

Offense all year was a bigger problem then the D.

 

[TDIrish27]

You're right in the sense that defense is about culture.

Over 50 years ago I played for a defensive guy in HS-------just demanded it.

Had a manager chart how many deflections we got in a game on defense.

It didn't matter if we got the ball or not .

Promised us if we got 25 plus we would win and we believed him.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Offense all year was a bigger problem then the D.

Given that Eddie is a offensive oriented coach and our offensive efficiency has been epicly bad it might be more of an indictment on Eddie. In addition, you would think the bigs injuries would show up more on the defensive end.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Greene

I know you are big on the efficincny stats...

The offense...I'll give a slight pass. We have NO ONE who can set a pick below without a big man. One of the least thought about things in an offense is the quality of screen set by the four and five. Well, we don't have any...so that hurts a lot more.

Empircally, when we aren't in give up mode, I think we actually create decent shots relatively to what we have in the past. Even without big to set screens and create space. We aren't making enough, but as a whole, I think we get more open looks than under Rice, Waters, and bannon. Maybe same number or close to Freddie....

Defensively, it's just down right putrid. Saturday was epically bad. To give up 98 points in 65 possesions (and I think they had two at the end of each half without a shot, so really 63) is beyond incomprehensible.

The shooting percentage defense as a whole is awful...and skewed in a lot of garbage time defense.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

the offense works....we need to run it. the quality of the shots resulting from our offensive sets are 10X better than those outside it....doesn't always mean we make the shots or finish around the basket.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Offense all year was a bigger problem then the D.

yeah, the OTHER team's offense [roll]

 

[G- RUnit]

Kenpom stats our Adjusted offense is rated 315. Our adjusted defense is rated 247. Offense has in fact been a bigger issue relatively.

 

[DHajekRC84]

B1G Game Team Stats vs. Oppon:

Ru shooting 40.6% to 48% (29% from three vs. 41%)
Other teams making 5 more 3's per game on avg which is 15pts just from behind the arc!
you can't shoot 40% on 2pt shots and make up that difference.

rebounds...oh my:

500 vs. 700! getting out rebounded by 12.5 boards per game.

IMO..these two are all you need to know.​