Reinstate Fitz

[xxxbobxxx]

I think people generally have different views on what constitutes "abuse" and what constitutes "team building" or "punishment." For the most part people are pretty reasonable. On the other hand I think it is preposterous that some people use terms like "sexual assault" to describe what seems to have happened in the NU locker room.

A lot of this depends on the individual. Are you a parent? If not, you don't know how significantly that changes your understanding of the world. It cannot be overstated. On the other hand, f you are a parent, what type of parent? Pushover? Disciplinarian? Are your kids hellraisers? Stressed out? Hardworking? Weasels? What works? What doesn't? Every parent who has raised kids knows that there are a lot of parents who suck and pre-dispose their kids to sucking as adults. You realize that nothing is black and white when it comes to ethics.

A guy like Schill, who has no kids, no spouse and possibly has never had a serious relationship with anyone... never played a sport of any kind, has no idea what sort of dynamics occur within teams, has never committed to teammates or expected someone to have his back, doesn't know or understand the commitment that winning requires - he literally scores a zero on all of that stuff. Is he qualified to assess Pat Fitzgerald's tenure as head coach? No way in hell.

Have been a parent and raised kids who were not my own. Probably fall more to disciplinary side but like to think more in the middle.

We will have to agree to disagree on sexual assault. For some in the running or the car wash, I can see it being so. More so if their sexual persuasion wasn’t typical alpha male football player.

I think ‘team building’ stuff was always around but a few bad apples ruin the cart. I know this as an adult. That some overly eager individuals will raise the ante beyond something acceptable. Which is why having a responsible adult charged with bearing the responsibility for the team is a must.

PF did not institute successful safeguards. That much is clear. Ultimately, someone must be responsible for team actions. PF was CEO - so much so that he dictated who would be coaches when everyone else thought otherwise, cancelled spring games and two deeps and demanded a lethargic and boring offense. Because it was HIS team - for better or worse. And worse got him.

 

[PurpleWhiteBoy]

More so if their sexual persuasion wasn’t typical alpha male football player.

I think this is probably a key component. This way the vast majority of players could view something as no big deal, in no way sexual, while some of the players could claim it was sexual (to them).

 

[hdhntr1]

The vast majority of donations came from the Ryans. And it looks like they want to keep donating regardless.

Sorry but while they are the lead, there were a lot of others that have made significant commitments. And while we have not heard of them pulling out of any donations already pledged which might be pretty hard to do at this point, it is harder to say that they are continuing to donate.

 

[xxxbobxxx]

Sorry but while they are the lead, there were a lot of others that have made significant commitments. And while we have not heard of them pulling out of any donations already pledged which might be pretty hard to do at this point, it is harder to say that they are continuing to donate.

At this point, who cares? Liberal university, dumpster fire FB program - only saving Grace might be the MBB program. Otherwise, it’s UoC relevance at this point.

 

[Rebel II1]

At this point, who cares? Liberal university, dumpster fire FB program - only saving Grace might be the MBB program. Otherwise, it’s UoC relevance at this point.

Let us let the 2023 play out before calling it a dumpster fire. We might be surprised. Liberal university, yes.