thorsin and Oliver aren't good enough
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They were good enough today. We won. Thorson is going to get plenty better. He'll be all All B1G QB in a couple years.
Good enough for what? Thorson is 8-2 and basically single handedly led us downfield for the winning TD. It may not have looked conventional, but right now our offense just is not going to be conventional because we have issues with our OL and WR groups. We are a running football that needs to call designed runs for the QB in order to be effective. We did that in the first drive and scored a TD. We did it in the last drive and scored a TD. I have been a McCall fan but the play calling in between those two drives left a lot to be desired.
Corbi agreed and plus 1000! Thorson needs to continually be a threat running to open up the passing game. Right now is just not a good enough pocket passer to be threat throwing from there. For the record as well I have no problem with him being pulled for two series. The kid is not Brady and he had done nothing since the first drive.
I agree it would be effective for Thorson to run more but he sure looks awkward when he does. He runs too erect and struggles with sliding. Definitely not a natural runner although when he gets loose he can cause some damage. My fear is if they do run him more, with his running style he will be very susceptible to getting hurt. So, my vote is, at least for this year, he runs enough. Work on his passing.
He is a tall runner and that looks wrong and make sliding difficult. He really is fast and when he has some room to change direction with out losing momentum he fakes people out and goes by them. I feel like taking the licks he took against PSU actually made him braver. He has very little swagger and that is what he needs. Of course you don't want him to get hurt but I feel like a few licks will make him feel like, "Is that all you got." He is a big guy he should be able to put it to those little guys in the secondary.
Hey, no complaints about the offense here, you'll offend some people. Raises and contract extensions for every offensive coach. 8-2 is all that matters, no room for criticism.
Clayton doesn't come in and make two runs we go to OT and maybe lose. OC has to let him run more and he needs to slide.
If you are going to rip him at least spell his name right.
Misspelling our quarterback's name just isn't good enough. That post is brutal. Luckily, the other posters on the board are good enough to make this thread respectable.
By your 8-2 argument, the WR corp and the OL are also good enough. The entire team is 8-2.
That does NOT mean that every player is performing at the level that the team needs to achieve its goals. A team may win IN SPITE of the performance by certain player or unit, not because of it.
CT is currently ranked #90 in the FBS per total QBR. The team needs much better than that (8-2 or not).
Thorson's passing is one reason the Cats are 8-2 and not 10-0. If we had decent QB play (better WR and OLs would help too) we could be better than 8-2.
The QB is the most important and impactful player on the team. You can't win without a good QB whose skills fit the identity of the team. Thorson is exactly that for this NU team. I feel strongly we would not have as good a record this year if a QB with the skill set of a Trevor Siemian was QB this team this year.
Sure...and if "if's and but's were bitches and sluts" Glades would be getting laid every night.
That comment is uncalled for. Glades is a chick magnet.
I would definitely like to see an open competition for the starting QB slot next year. I don't know if Aidan Smith is a wunderkind or not. I'd like to see the walkon TJ Green get a real shot as well.
If memory serves me correctly, Green is a "preferred walk-on" which means he will be on scholarship next season. So he isn't your typical walk-on. I seriously doubt Smith will be in the equation as a true freshman. The competition will come down to Thorson, Alviti and Green. I'd be shocked if Clayton doesn't prevail.
None of that changes the fact that CT is ranked exactly at #90 per total QBR in the FBS.
NU beat PSU under ZO. He went 11-24 for 111 ys (his QBR for the game would place him well below #100 in the FBS). It would be crazy to argue that because NU managed to win, ZO had a good performance.
By the same token, a QB could go 23/30 for 400 yds with 5 TD and no INT, but his team may fail to win the game. Does that mean that his performance cannot be judged great because his team lost?
Preferred walk on does not mean that Green will get a scholarship next year. You may be confusing that term with the concept of grey shirt which essentially is a deferred scholarship offer.
Regarding Thorson, he will be our starter for the next three years and we will all be very pleased about that. That includes the current naysayers on this board who wouldn't know what a good young QB looks like if a young Joe Montana was staring them straight in the face.
There is now way smith signs here unless he was told he would have a shot. He had too many other offers. Alviti has no shot. Ya gotta be able to throw the football (a little at least) in this offense and he can't
From what I have read smith has really impressed in these 7 on 7 camps.
His completion percent his senior year is like 68. That's pretty damn good for HS. Looking forward to qb competition next year
And by the same token, Oliver could have lost the game if he'd come in and turned into a turnover machine as during the Illinois game last year. Nobody is saying we've had scintillating QB play this year, but sometimes a QB can help his team just by not giving the game away. Our wideouts haven't helped matters with constant drive-killing drops this year. I recall one drop in particular by Jones that killed our opening second-half drive against Iowa when we were still in the game. It went downhill from there.
Haha. I take it you are the expert on what a good young qb looks like?? I hope your correct about him, but 51 percent completion in a dink and dunk passing game is brutal
So "ifs and buts" is the reason I'm being constantly chased by 250 lb women these days?
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8-2 as a freshman QB with a supporting cast that is essentially the same as last year's team. That's all for now!
If you wanna believe they are winning games because of him that's you choice but reality is they are winning games inspite of him.
No, I believe that would be because .of your scintillating personality
i think he means arent prductive enuf. Yes it takes 85 but the qb position is a clear and present weakness that gets expoited weekly by opposing defenses. In most games, our strengths can carry the qb position but when we play really good teams, the qb position is simply too heavy of a burden for our defense and KOR unit to carry.
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