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EERs 3:16

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You could do better with what he is up against? Maybe a Mitt Romney type?
That's what the primary season is for....

Besides we've already seen what Trump can do and it's......well.....we lost the House, lost the Senate, barely won the House back.....should have won the Senate too.........but didn't.
 

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No, no. No, no. Bleaters are the reason we have Pedo-Joe, because they let their messiahs brainwash them into thinking national security, with closed borders, energy independence, good foreign policy, great economy, record employment for women and minorities....etc were bad things.

Anger and hate-distribution from Democrats, gave us Pedo-Joe.

Socialists who took over the Democrat party, gave us Pedo-Joe.

Promoting government dependency gave us Pedo-Joe.

Trump was in the way and those who weren't brainwashed and bleating know it.
No, the Trump campaign sat on their hands while the Dems out worked, out hustled, and out manavoured the Trump campaign.
 

30CAT

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No, the Trump campaign sat on their hands while the Dems out worked, out hustled, and out manavoured the Trump campaign.

By creating a hoax and using the DOJ?

Cheating being out-worked, out-hustled and out maneuvering?

Lying to the American people to get them to believe the hoax?

Hiding in a basement, running from the media, refusing to answer questions and using the FBI to silence social media by threatening them?

That's total fraud, not work.

Yes. You're a bleater.
 

atlkvb

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I guess you missed his response to COVID, and several terrible political appointments
No...I was one of the earliest skeptics on this board to that entire scam called "Covid". Trump is no epidemiologist. He followed the helter-skelter advice of the so called "experts" who claimed we were in a life transforming "pandemic". To his credit he rejected the useless mask mandates and reluctantly went along with the unnecessary forced business closures...but he at least encouraged individual States to do what they thought best.

Turns out virtually all of the so called "experts" as well as his advisors were dead wrong about the threats from Covid, and in fact they purposely lied about the most effective treatments as well as how harmful it really was without all the mandates! The Left has blamed him (Trump) but in Truth they were primarily responsible for the entire scam, using it as a blunt force instrument to gain political power & to blame him no matter what he did.

As for his appointments, to the extent he relied on inside the beltway swamp dwellers who were offered up only to frustrate his promise to "drain the swamp" he got what he asked for. I suspect those types won't be in his new administration, and that's why he's so viscerally hated and opposed for his re-election.

I do notice you cannot cite for me which of his policies failed, or what we have that's better from his corrupt, incompetent, dishonest, installed replacement?

He doesn't have to answer you atl, he knows I've been a total disaster

Yup...we know it too creepy Joe. Better eat that ice cream cone quick, it's melting even faster than your brain! :rolleyes:
 
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By creating a hoax and using the DOJ?

Cheating being out-worked, out-hustled and out maneuvering?

Lying to the American people to get them to believe the hoax?

Hiding in a basement, running from the media, refusing to answer questions and using the FBI to silence social media by threatening them?

That's total fraud, not work.

Yes. You're a bleater.
Bill Barr - a Trump appointee was in charge of the DOJ or is there another excuse you'd like to use

The rules were the same for both parties - the Dems just took advantage of those rules and the Trump campaign didn't do anything to stop them

Trump should have sold the American people a better story

Yup - Biden beat Trump and Biden didn't even have to leave his basement....how pathetic is that

Nope, that's being out worked........Trump should have laid the groundwork to stop the Dem's foolishness long before the first vote was cast.....

Oh and Trump's appointee was in charge of the FBI...or do you have another story
 

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No...I was one of the earliest skeptics on this board to that entire scam called "Covid". Trump is no epidemiologist. He followed the helter-skelter advice of the so called "experts" who claimed we were in a life transforming "pandemic". To his credit he rejected the useless mask mandates and reluctantly went along with the unnecessary forced business closures...but he at least encouraged individual States to do what they thought best.

Turns out virtually all of the so called "experts" as well as his advisors were dead wrong about the threats from Covid, and in fact they purposely lied about the most effective treatments as well as how harmful it really was without all the mandates! The Left has blamed him (Trump) but in Truth they were primarily responsible for the entire scam, using it as a blunt force instrument to gain political power & to blame him no matter what he did.

As for his appointments, to the extent he relied on inside the beltway swamp dwellers who were offered up only to frustrate his promise to "drain the swamp" he got what he asked for. I suspect those types won't be in his new administration, and that's why he's so viscerally hated and opposed for his re-election.

I do notice you cannot cite for me which of his policies failed, or what we have that's better from his corrupt, incompetent, dishonest, installed replacement?

He doesn't have to answer you atl, he knows I've been a total disaster

Yup...we know it too creepy Joe. Better eat that ice cream cone quick, it's melting even faster than your brain! :rolleyes:
I mean....you keep offering up excuses
 

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Bill Barr - a Trump appointee was in charge of the DOJ or is there another excuse you'd like to use

The rules were the same for both parties - the Dems just took advantage of those rules and the Trump campaign didn't do anything to stop them

Trump should have sold the American people a better story

Yup - Biden beat Trump and Biden didn't even have to leave his basement....how pathetic is that

Nope, that's being out worked........Trump should have laid the groundwork to stop the Dem's foolishness long before the first vote was cast.....

Oh and Trump's appointee was in charge of the FBI...or do you have another story

Um...Congress impeached Trump over a hoax it created. Bill Barr was appointed AG in 2019, LONG after the Democrats' damage was done by lying to Americans.

Democrat, Loretta Lynch was AG at the time the hoax was created.
 

EERs 3:16

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Um...Congress impeached Trump over a hoax it created. Bill Barr was appointed AG in 2019, LONG after the Democrats' damage was done by lying to Americans.

Democrat, Loretta Lynch was AG at the time the hoax was created.
Fine, Jeff Sessions could have squashed it, but didn't.....

Oh and Trump was never impeached over the Steele Dossier.....he was impeached over a stupid phone call and Jan 6.....
 

atlkvb

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Fine, Jeff Sessions could have squashed it, but didn't.....

Oh and Trump was never impeached over the Steele Dossier.....he was impeached over a stupid phone call and Jan 6.....
What was illegal about that "stupid phone call" and what crime did he commit re: Jan 6th? Don't bother answering with the Laws violated because you may expose yourself more than you have already as just another mind numbed media brainwashed myrmidon.
 

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I mean....you keep offering up excuses
You're the one obsessed with pointing out how Trump has failed... yet you're not offering any better alternatives in terms of policy or candidates. Why not?

Right now, most folks in the GOP (primary voters) prefer Trump as the answer. Only person who has a problem with that is YOU!

What's your solution (or better yet who is it?)
 

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What was illegal about that "stupid phone call" and what crime did he commit re: Jan 6th? Don't bother answering with the Laws violated because you may expose yourself more than you have already as just another mind numbed media brainwashed myrmidon.
Did i Say there was anything wrong with the stupid phone call? DId I say Trump committed any crimes on Jan 6?
 

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You're the one obsessed with pointing out how Trump has failed... yet you're not offering any better alternatives in terms of policy or candidates. Why not?

Right now, most folks in the GOP (primary voters) prefer Trump as the answer. Only person who has a problem with that is YOU!

What's your solution (or better yet who is it?)
Why would I want to back someone who lost to Biden? I mean losing to Biden is kind of a low mark.
 

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Trump supporter has more in common with liberal democrats than they do with traditional conservative values. It's true. For example, if you say something the leftest don't like, the first thing the liberals do is hurl insult after insult and try to censor/cancel you. That's a fact. Now, say something negative about Trump --like how he appointed feckless people like Barr and Wray-- and watch what happens. The butt hurt Trump supporter will respond the same way as your average liberal does when you point out Hunter's addiction to cocaine and ****** hookers. In other words, your average Trump supporter has more in common with AOC than they do with Ronnie.
I'd say, based on what you posted, liberal democrats and Trump supporter's commonality is they insult their opposition. This is behavior not ideology; and it's American society. Insulting others because they disagree goes to all kinds of areas, like sports, religion, appearance, etc. Insulting others is what people, more so since the advent of social media and sports web sites, do.

There is nothing new here.
 
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dave

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That's what the primary season is for....

Besides we've already seen what Trump can do and it's......well.....we lost the House, lost the Senate, barely won the House back.....should have won the Senate too.........but didn't.
It's almost like you were not satisfied with the level of pure idiocy you had spread out so you add more just in case someone mistakenly thinks you are not retarded.
 

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Why would I want to back someone who lost to Biden? I mean losing to Biden is kind of a low mark.
I can prove to you Trump didn't lose to Biden (he was installed) if you'll bear with me and answer two simple questions and allow me to follow up. It's easy to prove Trump won, and I can use you to help me prove it.

You game?
 

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I don't expect @EERs 3:16 will accept my challenge in post #70 (most Leftists instinctively already know Biden didn't win) but I'll just throw this out there for any of you other absent minded Leftist Biden voters to dispel this question and/or prove he either logically or legally won fair and square? It's pretty simple...you just have to be honest in answering these 2 questions:

Question #1 (True or False)
Was Trump comfortably ahead late on election night in all of the so called "swing States" Biden eventually won? A simple fact check shows the answer clearly is "True".

Question #2 (True or False)
The vote counts in all of those so called "swing States" was without explanation abruptly halted late on election night with Trump comfortably ahead in all of them and cruising to an easy Electoral College victory. Again, a simple fact check proves this also to be 100% accurate. (True)

Follow up (True or False)
Has there been an accurate, detailed, fact checked explanation given as to why all of those vote counts were all suddenly suspended, where Biden then won each and every one of them once the counts resumed?
Ans: False


A few more follow ups:
  • Do any of you know why all those vote counts were suddenly halted?
  • Do any of you know where this has ever happened before? (vote counts suddenly all halted?)
  • Do any of you know why the counts were halted in only those so called "swing States"? (why not for instance in States either Biden or Trump had already clearly won?)
  • Do any of you have proof Biden won all those so called "swing States" legally, and can cite where it's been proven so? (remember Trump challenged the results and most Courts rejected his challenges without adjudication)

Again, if you're honest the answer to all of the above is "No".

Now using simple logic applied to your honest answers to all of the above questions leads you to the only conclusion you can logically or legally reach. That Biden in fact did not fairly win that race logically, and it has not legally been proven so! Again simple logic dictates this answer, and thus proves he did not legally or honestly win that race!

If what I've stated here is NOT True, then you now have an open forum to offer the fact based, legal, or logical reasons refuting your hopefully honest answers to the above questions in this post. If you cannot offer your legal and/or logical rebuttals to your honest answers, there is (logically) your legal proof by your own honest answers that Biden did not win that race, and he was in fact by logical result illegally installed!

If you want further proof he was not the legitimate winner who won based on his strong proposed policies or his honesty with voters, look at his subsequent record so far and how many of those alleged 81 million "record voters" now want nothing more to do with him for a second term?
 
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That's what the primary season is for....

Besides we've already seen what Trump can do and it's......well.....we lost the House, lost the Senate, barely won the House back.....should have won the Senate too.........but didn't.

He won in 2016 and probably would have won in 2020 if the CCP hadn't let Covid 19 get out. You're a never Trumper. However the reality is he has a better chance than any other Republican or Opposition. Only someone rooting for Biden, Newsome, or another Marxist turd keeps playing this game.
 

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He won in 2016 and probably would have won in 2020 if the CCP hadn't let Covid 19 get out. You're a never Trumper. However the reality is he has a better chance than any other Republican or Opposition. Only someone rooting for Biden, Newsome, or another Marxist turd keeps playing this game.
Even Biden voters can't argue for his re-election based only on his performance so far. They simply hate Trump, and that's their justification for opposing him or voting for an incompetent loser like Biden. They cannot argue for Biden's success. They can only argue for their unbridled hatred of Trump.
 

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Even Biden voters can't argue for his re-election based only on his performance so far. They simply hate Trump, and that's their justification for opposing him or voting for an incompetent loser like Biden. They cannot argue for Biden's success. They can only argue for their unbridled hatred of Trump.

It's why they got Garland doing what he is doing.
 

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He won in 2016 and probably would have won in 2020 if the CCP hadn't let Covid 19 get out. You're a never Trumper. However the reality is he has a better chance than any other Republican or Opposition. Only someone rooting for Biden, Newsome, or another Marxist turd keeps playing this game.
that's not true, I voted for Trump the first time around but have since soured on him.
 

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that's not true, I voted for Trump the first time around but have since soured on him.
Trump's running on essentially the exact same agenda he won with in 2016 and which YOU claim you voted for! He's been cleared of all the smears that were thrown against him during his term (collusion, tax evasion, abuse of power, etc) and he's now facing even more smears and lies as swamp dwelling Leftists try to prevent him from running again. What's changed as far as his MAGA agenda that you once voted for, to the point where now you've "soured" on him?
 

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that's not true, I voted for Trump the first time around but have since soured on him.

I soured on anyone who doesn't have his back after all the election interference that keeps happening and the abuse from the DOJ/FBI. Not the kind of people I would want to go to war with. They get by with doing this with Trump and it only gets worse.
 

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I can prove to you Trump didn't lose to Biden (he was installed) if you'll bear with me and answer two simple questions and allow me to follow up. It's easy to prove Trump won, and I can use you to help me prove it.

You game?
Either way Trump lost.... He either lost the election or he lost the tactical game around it...either way.....he lost....so.....yeah...don't care
 

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I soured on anyone who doesn't have his back after all the election interference that keeps happening and the abuse from the DOJ/FBI. Not the kind of people I would want to go to war with. They get by with doing this with Trump and it only gets worse.
I sour on people who don't understand how the game is played..... Trump didn't and doesn't understand how the game is played... After all, there's an old saying, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying....the Dems tried harder than Trump..piss on him
 
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