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EERs 3:16

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Trump's running on essentially the exact same agenda he won with in 2016 and which YOU claim you voted for! He's been cleared of all the smears that were thrown against him during his term (collusion, tax evasion, abuse of power, etc) and he's now facing even more smears and lies as swamp dwelling Leftists try to prevent him from running again. What's changed as far as his MAGA agenda that you once voted for, to the point where now you've "soured" on him?
ummmm you do realize Trump lost to a guy that can't find his way out of his basement.......
 

dave

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Either way Trump lost.... He either lost the election or he lost the tactical game around it...either way.....he lost....so.....yeah...don't care
You are a loser. I treat you the same way.
 

Gunny46

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I sour on people who don't understand how the game is played..... Trump didn't and doesn't understand how the game is played... After all, there's an old saying, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying....the Dems tried harder than Trump..piss on him

Grow up. The Establishment and Marxist Democrats have been winning for decades. Playing games isn't going to get it done. Neither is any other candidate if you don't stand up to what they are trying to do to Trump and those that supported him. No amount of spin because you want another candidate changes that. If you don't have the loyalty or intestinal fortitude to support the moderate that fought back how the hell are you going to make it with with a candidate getting 20% or less support?

You have the math skills of Bill Kristol or a Libertarian that doesn't understand he will always be in the minority. Trump is the only candidate that opposes the Establishment that has even the slimmest of chances. If you don't rally around him the New Democrat Party will win for certain. Then you get more of Biden's policies. Because they aren't really his. They are the New Democrat Parties.

If they didn't fear Trump then Garland and the DOJ wouldn't be acting the fools. It's that simple.
 

atlkvb

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Either way Trump lost.... He either lost the election or he lost the tactical game around it...either way.....he lost....so.....yeah...don't care
The fact is you cannot refute either logically or legally one thing of what I presented to you in post #72. It's all right there in front of you to explain or discredit with logical fact based explanations or verified legal justifications. Neither you nor anyone else on the Left can supply either. Yet you insist Biden's installation was perfectly legitimate, Constitutionally legal and obviously logical? If that's true, why can't you present the facts to prove it?

Game, set, match.
 

atlkvb

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ummmm you do realize Trump lost to a guy that can't find his way out of his basement.......
I reject the assertion he lost. I've proven to you logically how he did not, you cannot prove logically he did! You at least have to admit even if Biden got 81 million legal legitimate votes, he's since lost more than he's picked up. He's an unmitigated disaster and despite your irrational hatred for Trump even you must admit Biden's abject failure by honest comparison.

Fact.
 

WVU82_rivals

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@DC_Draino
Instead of improving schools in Democrat districts with school choice, they just lowered graduation standards

To allow these undereducated graduates to attend college, they enacted affirmative action

To allow these college graduates to compete in the real world, they pushed DEI in companies

Now that systemic racism has been abolished and affirmative action is outlawed, the Democrat party is going to be exposed for screwing over their voters the past 60+ years
 

EERs 3:16

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I reject the assertion he lost. I've proven to you logically how he did not, you cannot prove logically he did! You at least have to admit even if Biden got 81 million legal legitimate votes, he's since lost more than he's picked up. He's an unmitigated disaster and despite your irrational hatred for Trump even you must admit Biden's abject failure by honest comparison.

Fact.
You mistake me for someone who cares about Biden.....I don't.
 

EERs 3:16

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The fact is you cannot refute either logically or legally one thing of what I presented to you in post #72. It's all right there in front of you to explain or discredit with logical fact based explanations or verified legal justifications. Neither you nor anyone else on the Left can supply either. Yet you insist Biden's installation was perfectly legitimate, Constitutionally legal and obviously logical? If that's true, why can't you present the facts to prove it?

Game, set, match.
Winning is the only thing that matters.....Trump......didn't win. He knew the rules going into the election and he go worked.....
 

EERs 3:16

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Grow up. The Establishment and Marxist Democrats have been winning for decades. Playing games isn't going to get it done. Neither is any other candidate if you don't stand up to what they are trying to do to Trump and those that supported him. No amount of spin because you want another candidate changes that. If you don't have the loyalty or intestinal fortitude to support the moderate that fought back how the hell are you going to make it with with a candidate getting 20% or less support?

You have the math skills of Bill Kristol or a Libertarian that doesn't understand he will always be in the minority. Trump is the only candidate that opposes the Establishment that has even the slimmest of chances. If you don't rally around him the New Democrat Party will win for certain. Then you get more of Biden's policies. Because they aren't really his. They are the New Democrat Parties.

If they didn't fear Trump then Garland and the DOJ wouldn't be acting the fools. It's that simple.
I"ll make a deal with you - if you can get Trump to keep his mouth shut ...then i'll vote for him again.
 

dave

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So why do you --and your kind-- get so upset when someone wants to move forward from Trump?
Moving forward is one thing. You are saying the dumbest most ridiculous things. Comparing Trump followers to Marxists and then act surprised when people point out you are a fuking retard.
 

dave

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I"ll make a deal with you - if you can get Trump to keep his mouth shut ...then i'll vote for him again.
This is an odd statement coming from the clubhouse leader for dumbest poster of the decade.
 

Gunny46

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I"ll make a deal with you - if you can get Trump to keep his mouth shut ...then i'll vote for him again.

Yes him keeping his mouth shut will make the New Democrat Party and media behave and start working for all Americans. Get real. You can vote for who you want. Your reasons for hating on Trump are weak. At this point he's earned the right to say want he wants. I don't even have to agree with him. But I definitely understand why he fights back. His words are pretty tamed to the vocabulary I would be using if I was in his shoes.
 

atlkvb

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Winning is the only thing that matters.....Trump......didn't win. He knew the rules going into the election and he go worked.....
The rules were changed...illegally btw. You're just so full of hatred for him you can't recognize or even admit that.
 

atlkvb

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So why do you --and your kind-- get so upset when someone wants to move forward from Trump?
Because there are no rational, policy based, or factual reasons to "move on" from the direction he had the nation headed...and even worse there has been no better alternative presented or offered! You honestly think we're better off now than we were while he was in Office?

That's TDS defined.
 

EERs 3:16

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The rules were changed...illegally btw. You're just so full of hatred for him you can't recognize or even admit that.
God almighty could come down and run for office, but you wouldn’t support him, because he’s not Trump!

You Trumpians take a group think approach to life and that’s not dissimilar to those views espoused by the likes of AOC. Totalitarianism or bust.
 

atlkvb

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God almighty could come down and run for office, but you wouldn’t support him, because he’s not Trump!

You Trumpians take a group think approach to life and that’s not dissimilar to those views espoused by the likes of AOC. Totalitarianism or bust.
If I thought it would be worth my time, I could tell you exactly why I support Trump. (based on the policies he promotes) It has nothing to do with idolatry. Trump, me and even YOU live under the Grace & Mercy of an almighty Creator who rightfully deserves our Worship. Part of what you have less of consuming you once your focus is on Worship for our Creator's Grace and Mercy is unfiltered hatred for another human being simply because he doesn't worship whatever idol you've substituted for Worship of the Living Lord of the Universe.

So tell me @EERs 3:16 ...who or what do YOU Worship?
 

Gunny46

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God almighty could come down and run for office, but you wouldn’t support him, because he’s not Trump!

You Trumpians take a group think approach to life and that’s not dissimilar to those views espoused by the likes of AOC. Totalitarianism or bust.

Are you pissed because you realized Trump doesn't support a civil war or are you really a supporter of the Insurgency the New Democrat Party has been running for decades? Either way the RINO's are not the answer to a Counter Insurgency against the Communist and their enablers. DeSantis isn't going to make it on his own and Chris Christie is at 1%.
 

TarHeelEer

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He won in 2016 and probably would have won in 2020 if the CCP hadn't let Covid 19 get out. You're a never Trumper. However the reality is he has a better chance than any other Republican or Opposition. Only someone rooting for Biden, Newsome, or another Marxist turd keeps playing this game.

What is his plan to win AZ, GA, MI, PA? RDS is polling better (beating Biden) in the swing states. Trump isn't.
 

dave

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What is his plan to win AZ, GA, MI, PA? RDS is polling better (beating Biden) in the swing states. Trump isn't.
Trump or RDS both win both if they reign in the illegal votes.

RDS's problem is he has not shot at winning the primary as it stands.
 

EERs 3:16

Redshirt
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If I thought it would be worth my time, I could tell you exactly why I support Trump. (based on the policies he promotes) It has nothing to do with idolatry. Trump, me and even YOU live under the Grace & Mercy of an almighty Creator who rightfully deserves our Worship. Part of what you have less of consuming you once your focus is on Worship for our Creator's Grace and Mercy is unfiltered hatred for another human being simply because he doesn't worship whatever idol you've substituted for Worship of the Living Lord of the Universe.

So tell me @EERs 3:16 ...who or what do YOU Worship?
What if I don’t care to know why you support the guy that lost to Biden?
 

atlkvb

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What is his plan to win AZ, GA, MI, PA? RDS is polling better (beating Biden) in the swing states. Trump isn't.
Trump has to refine his message reminding voters how much the current administration is costing them...at the pump, at the grocery store, for a new house, a new car...you name it. If he can focus his message on restoring Americans' fiscal house so we can live on what we're earning and keeping more of what we earn....there is virtually nothing else the Left can offer that would appeal to more voters.
 

roadtrasheer

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Trump has to refine his message reminding voters how much the current administration is costing them...at the pump, at the grocery store, for a new house, a new car...you name it. If he can focus his message on restoring Americans' fiscal house so we can live on what we're earning and keeping more of what we earn....there is virtually nothing else the Left can offer that would appeal to more voters.
Not sure he or anyone else can sell that. People have become so dependent of government they can't understand what is actually raising the prices of everything.
 

atlkvb

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What if I don’t care to know why you support the guy that lost to Biden?
Then you're a complete joke wasting all of your time on this forum bitching about him.

He really Loves me...that's why he hates me so much atl

I know DJT...he's maniacally in Love with you my man!

EERs 3:16

Preach it Brother!!!!!!
 

atlkvb

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Not sure he or anyone else can sell that. People have become so dependent of government they can't understand what is actually raising the prices of everything.
While that's sadly true in many cases, the bottom line for most Americans is making more money to live the way THEY want...not how poorly the government forces them to live!
 

TarHeelEer

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Trump or RDS both win both if they reign in the illegal votes.

RDS's problem is he has not shot at winning the primary as it stands.
RDS doesn't need this, he will win outright. How will Trump reign in the illegal votes? The RNC hasn't lifted a finger, with Trump's hand-chosen woman in charge.
 

atlkvb

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RDS doesn't need this, he will win outright. How will Trump reign in the illegal votes? The RNC hasn't lifted a finger, with Trump's hand-chosen woman in charge.
The only way RDS wins the GOP primary is if Trump self destructs or the Left kills him.
 

dave

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What if I don’t care to know why you support the guy that lost to Biden?
You keep challenging Trump supporters. I'm guessing getting your *** reamed like it was junior prom all over again forced a change in direction?
 

atlkvb

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I mean it folks...Trump doesn't have to take my advice, but if I were advising him I'd tell him to latch onto one concept and ride it all the way back into the WH.

"Americans want Freedom because they want Prosperity. Freedom and Prosperity should be available for every American, and I am running to make sure as many Americans who want it can have it."

American prosperity connects four main issues:

Getting America's fiscal house under control by controlling deficit inducing and inflation causing runaway spending

Re-establishing America's energy independence to lower inflation and the daily cost of living or doing business

Instituting systemic and fundamental tax reform to allow more Americans to keep more of what they earn along with reducing the tax burden on ALL working Americans or the companies they work for

Making "made in America" mean what it says...opening up our own manufacturing and resorting our own American jobs for legal American workers

It's a simple but powerful 4 point message the Left cannot compete with, because they are wedded to the failed policies of income redistribution, confiscatory taxation, deficit spending, and unrestrained illegal immigration.

Want to learn more?


Again, if Trump embraces these 4 simple themes that cut across all classes, all races, and all genders...he cannot be defeated by anything or anyone else on the Left.

I'll do it atl!

You can't lose DJT...no matter what the Left tries to stop 'ya!
 
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roadtrasheer

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Ha
While that's sadly true in many cases, the bottom line for most Americans is making more money to live the way THEY want...not how poorly the government forces them to live!
How many cars have you sold do to government cheese ? Not saying your getting the cheese directly, but cars sold to people who could not afford them if not for government handouts.
 

atlkvb

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Ha

How many cars have you sold do to government cheese ? Not saying your getting the cheese directly, but cars sold to people who could not afford them if not for government handouts.
Some taxpayer somewhere is paying for anyone who relies on handouts. I sell cars to folks who can pay for them. Folks relying on handouts can't afford to pay for their own transportation.
 

roadtrasheer

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Some taxpayer somewhere is paying for anyone who relies on handouts. I sell cars to folks who can pay for them. Folks relying on handouts can't afford to pay for their own transportation.
Earned income credit has been used for many a down payments. Foodstamps allows them to make the payment on cars they couldn't otherwise afford. Yes taxpayers is paying for it . People in today's world spend more than they responsibly can because of government cheese . They buy expensive vacations, way bigger homes than they need , bigger fancier cars/ suv's all on government cheese . Claim they can't afford medical insurance as they board a cruise ship , go to pro sporting events .... the list is endless. People of all walks of life have become so dependent on the federal government its crazy .
 
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