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You know? I disagree with most of what he says, but he is just a liberal and I am just a conservative. We could rationally debate and come to a consensus.

He's not a leftist.

He still believes in freedom and loves America.

What has happened to liberals? True Democrats? So we disagree on a lot of things, but we agree with freedom, liberty and our Constitution.

Several things he says in this clip, I disagree with. But his bottom line? I couldn't agree more!

Thanks for posting.
 
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You know? I disagree with most of what he says, but he is just a liberal and I am just a conservative. We could rationally debate and come to a consensus.

He's not a leftist.

He still believes in freedom and loves America.

What has happened to liberals? True Democrats? So we disagree on a lot of things, but we agree with freedom, liberty and put Constitution.

Several things he says in this clip, I disagree with. But his bottom line? I couldn't agree more!

Thanks for posting.
I think your problem is that you let the minority in the Democratic Party get you fired up. Believe me, there are more like Maher and myself. Liberalism isn't your enemy. The radicals are.
 

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I think your problem is that you let the minority in the Democratic Party get you fired up. Believe me, there are more like Maher and myself. Liberalism isn't your enemy. The radicals are.
The Nation was founded on classic liberalism. Real liberals embrace individual liberty, freedom of speech, limited government, true federalism, and separation of powers. The real enemy is leftism or what I prefer to call, statism. A belief that the government elites should determine the course of our lives. Statists believe in the power of the collective and abhor individual liberty. The few morons that post here are nothing close to liberal. They are true statists.

Unfortuately, being a member of the Democrat Party today, whether you like or not, links you with these lefitsts. There is not a single "moderate" Democrat remaing in office. A vote for any Democrat is a vote against the principles of the Constitution.
 

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I think your problem is that you let the minority in the Democratic Party get you fired up. Believe me, there are more like Maher and myself. Liberalism isn't your enemy. The radicals are.

The Marxist have taken over the Democrat Party. They are working on the Republican Party now. That's where we are until Americans wake up. Liberals and Conservatives who care about this country and our Constitution are losing right now.
 
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I think your problem is that you let the minority in the Democratic Party get you fired up. Believe me, there are more like Maher and myself. Liberalism isn't your enemy. The radicals are.

I think the "minority" of the Democrat party has a much louder voice than you give them credit for. Because they "represent" your party, you won't stand against them.
 
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Unfortuately, being a member of the Democrat Party today, whether you like or not, links you with these lefitsts. There is not a single "moderate" Democrat remaing in office. A vote for any Democrat is a vote against the principles of the Constitution.
Be careful with that conclusion.
 

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The Marxist have taken over the Democrat Party. They are working on the Republican Party now. That's where we are until Americans wake up. Liberals and Conservatives who care about this country and our Constitution are losing right now.
Not sure they are true Marxists. Marx said from each according to their means, to each according to their needs. These are sheeple that want the government to be their Daddy. They have no intention of contributing to anything. Demonize the producers and expect handouts. And yes, the Republicans have many in their midst.
 

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We're seeing the expected outcome of letting leftism run amok while cuckservatives failed at their duty to conserve our culture. If only someone had been saying this for the last 6 years. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Be careful with that conclusion.
Prove me wrong. Give me any indication that the Democrat Party has not gone far left in every way. There is a segment of Democrat voters that are more moderate, but they have been conditioned by the media and their fellow leftists to vote for those who destroy their livelihood. Its actually quite a remarkable thing.
 

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We're seeing the expected outcome of letting leftism run amok while cuckservatives failed at their duty to conserve our culture. If only someone had been saying this for the last 6 years. 🤷‍♂️
Agreed. Conservatives failed miserably at holding the line. Spending, the rise of corporatism, massive expansion of the administrative state, Gay marriage, abortion. All are antithetical to our founding.
 

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I think your problem is that you let the minority in the Democratic Party get you fired up. Believe me, there are more like Maher and myself. Liberalism isn't your enemy. The radicals are.
The radicals are running the Democratic party’s agenda, not you guys.
 

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Prove me wrong. Give me any indication that the Democrat Party has not gone far left in every way. There is a segment of Democrat voters that are more moderate, but they have been conditioned by the media and their fellow leftists to vote for those who destroy their livelihood. Its actually quite a remarkable thing.
Be careful of saying guilt by association. That’s what I’m saying. Could be thrown back. [thumbsup]
 

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Not sure they are true Marxists. Marx said from each according to their means, to each according to their needs. These are sheeple that want the government to be their Daddy. They have no intention of contributing to anything. Demonize the producers and expect handouts. And yes, the Republicans have many in their midst.

Neo Marxist or any other synonyms you want to use. It all leads back to Socialism and the latest spin on it. No matter how many times they make adjustments it always turns into tyranny.
 

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Neo Marxist or any other synonyms you want to use. It all leads back to Socialism and the latest spin on it. No matter how many times they make adjustments it always turns into tyranny.
Are you against everything ""socialist"? Just wondering.
 

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Are you against everything ""socialist"? Just wondering.

I'm 100% against what China, Vietnam, USSR, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea have tried. There's a few others but that should be a good start.

I don't have a problem paying taxes to lift people up as long as the programs work and we can afford to make the investment.

I also have problems with Crony Capitalist that have Headquarters here and a workforce overseas and politicians that are bought off.

So mostly I care about the United States and it's people that are getting screwed from both sides.
 

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I'm 100% against what China, Vietnam, USSR, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea have tried. There's a few others but that should be a good start.

I don't have a problem paying taxes to lift people up as long as the programs work and we can afford to make the investment.

I also have problems with Crony Capitalist that have Headquarters here and a workforce overseas and politicians that are bought off.

So mostly I care about the United States and it's people that are getting screwed from both sides.
So, then, you aren't against socialism? Because previously you said "it all leads back to socialism". But this post makes it seem like you are partial to it.
 

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I think your problem is that you let the minority in the Democratic Party get you fired up. Believe me, there are more like Maher and myself. Liberalism isn't your enemy. The radicals are.
Minority.... seriously? The majority of the democrats today is socialists. Leftists has taken over the democrats. Just look at WHT they supp& vote for. Bill is spot on .
 

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Are you against everything ""socialist"? Just wondering.
We as a country have been socialists light ( chicken in every pot) and it has worked pretty well ....last 20 years it seems we have started down a path of socialists heavy and it will not work .
 

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We as a country have been socialists light ( chicken in every pot) and it has worked pretty well ....last 20 years it seems we have started down a path of socialists heavy and it will not work .
I don't disagree. But, does that mean it's not "socialism" that's the problem?
 

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Post the radical policies of Trump. I bet you can’t.
If you want to hide behind policies and say that it’s not radical to lie about a stolen election, try to burn down just about every public institution, and hitch his wagon to QuAnon and white supremacist groups for votes then you can have a conversation with the rest of the Trump cucks on here.
 

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If you want to hide behind policies and say that it’s not radical to lie about a stolen election, try to burn down just about every public institution, and hitch his wagon to QuAnon and white supremacist groups for votes then you can have a conversation with the rest of the Trump cucks on here.
LOL!!
 

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If you want to hide behind policies and say that it’s not radical to lie about a stolen election, try to burn down just about every public institution, and hitch his wagon to QuAnon and white supremacist groups for votes then you can have a conversation with the rest of the Trump cucks on here.
So, to be clear, no policy in his 4 years as President was radical? That, we agree on?

What public institutions did he try to burn down? I seem to recall the only people trying to burn down institutions in 2020 up to today are radical leftists.

Did he challenge and call out election fraud the same as every Democrat did in 2016? Yes. His rhetoric after the election was for purpose and I’m personally glad a giant light has been shown on the fragility of not having voter ID, ballot harvesting, and vote by mail schemes. These all need addressed.

He rightfully attacked the press. He rightfully attacked the Intel Community. He rightfully attacked the Justice community. All institutions that have shown to be extremely corrupt over these last 6 years.

But to be reiterate, zero radical policies in his 4 years as President. Prosperity to every single American. Your feelz were hurt, because of that, and because of people like you, average Americans are suffering under this current administration and their radical agenda.
 
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I think your problem is that you let the minority in the Democratic Party get you fired up. Believe me, there are more like Maher and myself. Liberalism isn't your enemy. The radicals are.
You are politically blind if you do not think the Democrat party has been captured by the radical Left. Look how Biden was "sold" during the campaign and look how he's been governing? Do you honestly believe there is anything "moderate" in any of his policies, appointments, or EOs since he was installed?

If you do, name one.
 

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Agreed. Conservatives failed miserably at holding the line. Spending, the rise of corporatism, massive expansion of the administrative state, Gay marriage, abortion. All are antithetical to our founding.
I really like your observations. Nailing it.

@Hillbilly Tea "educating" mind numbed Leftists
 

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No, they aren't the majority.
Radical Leftists may not be in the "majority"...certainly not in the general voting population of the country which is clearly center/Right...but they most certainly do control, dictate, and write policy for the Democrat party.

A "moderate" Democrat is Pro Choice but in favor of restrictions on late term abortions. Name one prominent Democrat party candidate who is brave enough to run on that without angering the kook fringe Left which is running that party and making sure its official position remains abortion on demand at any time for any reason with no restrictions.

Tell the board a Democrat who opposes that far Left radical position? I'll guarantee you they're not holding elective office with the backing of the Democrat party establishment.

Point made, point demonstrated, point proven... without a word of rebuttal from you!
 

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So, to be clear, no policy in his 4 years as President was radical? That, we agree on?

What public institutions did he try to burn down? I seem to recall the only people trying to burn down institutions in 2020 up to today are radical leftists.

Did he challenge and call out election fraud the same as every Democrat did in 2016? Yes. His rhetoric after the election was for purpose and I’m personally glad a giant light has been shown on the fragility of not having voter ID, ballot harvesting, and vote by mail schemes. These all need addressed.

He rightfully attacked the press. He rightfully attacked the Intel Community. He rightfully attacked the Justice community. All institutions that have shown to be extremely corrupt over these last 6 years.

But to be reiterate, zero radical policies in his 4 years as President. Prosperity to every single American. Your feelz were hurt, because of that, and because of people like you, average Americans are suffering under this current administration and their radical agenda.
Very well stated.
 

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So, to be clear, no policy in his 4 years as President was radical? That, we agree on?

What public institutions did he try to burn down? I seem to recall the only people trying to burn down institutions in 2020 up to today are radical leftists.

Did he challenge and call out election fraud the same as every Democrat did in 2016? Yes. His rhetoric after the election was for purpose and I’m personally glad a giant light has been shown on the fragility of not having voter ID, ballot harvesting, and vote by mail schemes. These all need addressed.

He rightfully attacked the press. He rightfully attacked the Intel Community. He rightfully attacked the Justice community. All institutions that have shown to be extremely corrupt over these last 6 years.

But to be reiterate, zero radical policies in his 4 years as President. Prosperity to every single American. Your feelz were hurt, because of that, and because of people like you, average Americans are suffering under this current administration and their radical agenda.
I'd offer school choice vouchers as more proof the radical Left is running Democrat party platforms. No Democrat who hopes to win the party's backing backs school choice vouchers. One quick glance around the country shows the movement is sweeping State Legislatures, primarily Republican, and in almost every case Democrats backed by anti-reform minded Teacher's unions and Democrat controlled school boards are blocking those initiatives. This is the same Teacher's union and radical Socialists on school boards that remain quiet as "woke" transgender curricula and polices percolate in virtually every government run school system.

The radical environmental agenda, as well anti-America & race baiting CRT is also supported by these same teacher's unions and far Left school boards. Do any free thinking or Freedom loving Democrats dare speak out against this "radicalizing" of our young skulls full of mush?
 
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I don't disagree. But, does that mean it's not "socialism" that's the problem?
Yes socialism Is a problem. I believe we as a country have started down the socialists rd by politicians or corporations who are buying votes with the hand outs.
 

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So, then, you aren't against socialism? Because previously you said "it all leads back to socialism". But this post makes it seem like you are partial to it.

I'm in favor of everyone getting to enjoy Capitalism that isn't getting hogged up by a few who buy politicians off. I'm against the crowd that wants to destroy the Constitution and our Country.

If you want to defend Socialism knock yourself out. As I have said numerous times. Lifting people up to contribute and take care of themselves is a good thing. Going full retard isn't. Not sustainable.
 

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So, to be clear, no policy in his 4 years as President was radical? That, we agree on?

What public institutions did he try to burn down? I seem to recall the only people trying to burn down institutions in 2020 up to today are radical leftists.

Did he challenge and call out election fraud the same as every Democrat did in 2016? Yes. His rhetoric after the election was for purpose and I’m personally glad a giant light has been shown on the fragility of not having voter ID, ballot harvesting, and vote by mail schemes. These all need addressed.

He rightfully attacked the press. He rightfully attacked the Intel Community. He rightfully attacked the Justice community. All institutions that have shown to be extremely corrupt over these last 6 years.

But to be reiterate, zero radical policies in his 4 years as President. Prosperity to every single American. Your feelz were hurt, because of that, and because of people like you, average Americans are suffering under this current administration and their radical agenda.

And @NYC_Eer has left this thread.