New York is a ********

[NYC_Eer]

No. However I do find it amusing how you claim to support school choice vouchers but voted against them in the last Presidential election? Trump both supported and promoted school choice vouchers, but it wasn't an important enough issue for you to stick to your "centrist" values to overlook his personal foibles and vote for that issue based on principle. One of the other posters said you voted simply out of pure hatred and rage (against Trump) and this admission proves it!

If school choice vouchers is important to you as a Parent and you vote for issues over personalities as you previously claimed, why was it not more important for you to vote for it in the last election? Aren't you admitting that you do indeed vote for the "person" rather than the issue as you stated and in fact is demonstrated by your vote against school choice vouchers when you cast your ballot for Biden over Trump?

Rather than claiming I don't understand how you can be a "centrist" you are simply not very convincing or honest in defense of your stated position based on how you voted. That's not my not misunderstanding, that's you prevaricating.

Because I’m not a one issue voter genius. Not sure if you’re dense or just argumentative. I mean is school vouchers your one and only issue? If you have to vote for (because Trump told you to) someone who was pro-voucher yet pro-choice…I’m sure you would take the pro-voucher guy right?

 

[30CAT]

LOL. NYC goes in cycles. Its difficult to run a Top 5 city in the world.

Inflation in New York is higher than the national average. Highest it's been in 4 decades.

New York leads the nation in population decline.

Crime is rampant and homeless is out of control.

 

[atlkvb]

Because I’m not a one issue voter . If you have to vote for (because Trump told you to) someone who was pro-voucher yet pro-choice…I’m sure you would take the pro-voucher guy right?

No I wouldn't because there is no such candidate! How do I know this? Most "pro choice" candidates are on the Left. If they're on the Left, they worship at the altar of big government, which means controlling schools to indoctrinate their future voters. Which then means they are most certainly against parental choice and school vouchers, primarily because they are also beholden to the Left wing teacher's unions who also oppose school choice vouchers. Now I asked you to name one candidate for me who was both "pro choice" and also "pro vouchers" and school choice?

Why can't you name one Mr (above the partisanship Centrist"? I told you earlier ITT you can't prove to me how you vote "centrist"...it's just your cover because you can't defend your natural Left wing voting. Thanks for proving me correct.

 

[atlkvb]

Inflation in New York is higher than the national average. Highest it's been in 4 decades.

New York leads the nation in population decline.

Crime is rampant and homeless is out of control.

@NYC_Eer thinks the rotten apple will make a comeback...but no one's predicting that as they leave the sh*t hole for good.

 

[atlkvb]

Because I’m not a one issue voter genius. Not sure if you’re dense or just argumentative.

I'm certainly not dense but I'm often confused trying to track with your flip flopping logic. Now you've claimed you weigh each issue and don't vote for "personalities" correct? Yet on issue after issue you claim to support the very things Trump supported... full funding of police, school choice vouchers, stronger military, lower business taxes...you in fact said you didn't have much issue with Trump's policies...you just didn't like him personally correct?

So you just contradicted your entire explanation of how you vote, irrespective of the candidate. You said you consider just the issues, and not the candidate. But with Trump, you ignored all the issues you agree with him on, and voted for the exact opposite policies in creepy Joe Biden (even though you knew he was senile old pervert) simply because you hated Trump so much! Now you're trying to claim you're not a "one issue" voter but you'd never vote for someone who opposes Abortion even if they agreed on essentially every other issue you support! If that's not being a one issue voter, please tell me what qualifies?

Even when you try not to lie....

 

[roadtrasheer]

@NYC_Eer thinks the rotten apple will make a comeback...but no one's predicting that as they leave the sh*t hole for good.

Trump was a centrist. A cross between JFK & Ronald Reagan.
He was more old school Democrat than anything.

 

[sammyk]

Trump was a centrist. A cross between JFK & Ronald Reagan.
He was more old school Democrat than anything.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH hold on got to catch my breath ok HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA oh man HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

 

[roadtrasheer]

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH hold on got to catch my breath ok HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA oh man HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

Prove me wrong.

 

[sammyk]

Prove me wrong.

https://tdkehoe.medium.com/thirteen-similarities-between-donald-trump-and-adolf-hitler-3a97a8055dde

Not JFK or Reagan. Are you too a Nazi??????

 

[NYC_Eer]

Inflation in New York is higher than the national average. Highest it's been in 4 decades.

New York leads the nation in population decline.

Crime is rampant and homeless is out of control.

Like I said. Being the largest city in the US its hard to manage. It has been in down cycles before. Even in the down times its one of the best cities in the world. Its the financial capital of the world...among numerous other industries. Hate on NYC as a liberal city all you want, but its simply butt hurt because you're a Trumper. Its not an opinion based in historical fact.

 

[NYC_Eer]

Trump was a centrist. A cross between JFK & Ronald Reagan.
He was more old school Democrat than anything.

You're a moron. Regan my ***. You're the reason he exists.

He has no principles. He has no moral compass or political beliefs. He's a populist and a nationalist, but he probably doesn't even really believe in the nationlist ****...just knows morons like you eat that **** up. He only does what gins up division and hate, because that is in his best interest. Trump is only about Trump.

 

[sammyk]

Like I said. Being the largest city in the US its hard to manage. It has been in down cycles before. Even in the down times its one of the best cities in the world. Its the financial capital of the world...among numerous other industries. Hate on NYC as a liberal city all you want, but its simply butt hurt because you're a Trumper. Its not an opinion based in historical fact.

Good reply

 

[atlkvb]

Trump was a centrist. A cross between JFK & Ronald Reagan.
He was more old school Democrat than anything.

Well he'd never get the vote of self described "centrist" @NYC_Eer ....he's not a "one issue" voter don't 'ya know? He just hated Trump's guts...didn't need any other "issues" to vote against him.

 

[atlkvb]

Good reply

Trump is from New York!

That's why @NYC_Eer hates me so much ya'll...he's not only jealous of me because of my personal success...but he's also embarrassed our home town is such an absolute sh*t hole because of Liberals just like him!

Run DJT....New York city is too small for you! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[30CAT]

Like I said. Being the largest city in the US its hard to manage. It has been in down cycles before. Even in the down times its one of the best cities in the world. Its the financial capital of the world...among numerous other industries. Hate on NYC as a liberal city all you want, but its simply butt hurt because you're a Trumper. Its not an opinion based in historical fact.

New York...as in the state.

 

[NYC_Eer]

I'm certainly not dense but I'm often confused trying to track with your flip flopping logic. Now you've claimed you weigh each issue and don't vote for "personalities" correct? Yet on issue after issue you claim to support the very things Trump supported... full funding of police, school choice vouchers, stronger military, lower business taxes...you in fact said you didn't have much issue with Trump's policies...you just didn't like him personally correct?

So you just contradicted your entire explanation of how you vote, irrespective of the candidate. You said you consider just the issues, and not the candidate. But with Trump, you ignored all the issues you agree with him on, and voted for the exact opposite policies in creepy Joe Biden (even though you knew he was senile old pervert) simply because you hated Trump so much! Now you're trying to claim you're not a "one issue" voter but you'd never vote for someone who opposes Abortion even if they agreed on essentially every other issue you support! If that's not being a one issue voter, please tell me what qualifies?

Even when you try not to lie....

Once again, you either don't understand or are willfully ignoring the point. I did not say I only vote based on issues. Of course someone's character comes into play...maybe even more so. That is where Trump comes up short. He is devoid of character. I don't believe a word he says. He's morally corrupt.

And I don't care to lie to you when I don't care what you think. You don't understand that either.

 

[atlkvb]

Good reply

Hey sammy....does hearing this make you mad?

 

[NYC_Eer]

No I wouldn't because there is no such candidate! How do I know this? Most "pro choice" candidates are on the Left. If they're on the Left, they worship at the altar of big government, which means controlling schools to indoctrinate their future voters. Which then means they are most certainly against parental choice and school vouchers, primarily because they are also beholden to the Left wing teacher's unions who also oppose school choice vouchers. Now I asked you to name one candidate for me who was both "pro choice" and also "pro vouchers" and school choice?

Why can't you name one Mr (above the partisanship Centrist"? I told you earlier ITT you can't prove to me how you vote "centrist"...it's just your cover because you can't defend your natural Left wing voting. Thanks for proving me correct.

Non-answer of course.

 

[atlkvb]

Once again, you either don't understand or are willfully ignoring the point. I did not say I only vote based on issues. Of course someone's character comes into play...maybe even more so. That is where Trump comes up short. He is devoid of character. I don't believe a word he says. He's morally corrupt.

And I don't care to lie to you when I don't care what you think. You don't understand that either.

Would you like me to quote exactly what you said about how you vote?

I vote for people not parties. I don't just vote no because someone is pro-life or pro-gun if I believe their other stances are more important.

Every Democrat I know opposes ending abortion (you do too) and by and large most Democrats favor stricter gun controls (you do too)

So once again, name for me someone who opposes either of those issues supported by most Democrats that you voted for since you're not a "one issue" voter? Either back up what you claim or stop claiming it!

@NYC_Eer just cannot answer that can he Zero?

He does too...he's an unapologetic Leftist that's why he can't answer.

 

[atlkvb]

Non-answer of course.

I'm still waiting for a name of someone who you claim is Pro Choice but also Pro school choice vouchers? Got somebody? That's about as "centrist" as one can get, where's your candidate?

 

[atlkvb]

That is where Trump comes up short. He is devoid of character. I don't believe a word he says. He's morally corrupt.

Fair enough. Again as always, I take you at your word. "Trump is morally corrupt" you said that correct? What "morality" is that statement based on or exactly who's "morality" has he corrupted? Please cite your sources for declaring his morality any worse than someone who is OK with a little baby two minutes from birth being hacked up like a piece of salami being sliced in a delicatessen?

Trump opposes that (partial birth abortion) but you are either indifferent on it or think that's up to the Mother and her Doctor. What's "moral" about that? Why are you more "moral" than he is?

 

[atlkvb]

I don't care to lie to you when I don't care what you think. You don't understand that either.

Fair enough. Explain then why it was even necessary for you to declare to me how "centrist" you are and vote that way when you can't even tell me one candidate who represents your centrist views? Surely there is someone who believes as you do...based on the issues. I said you either vote for a Democrat (mostly) or a Republican, but rarely do you find one who supports what you do while opposing what you oppose.

I've given you examples....you can't give me one name which is why I think you're either disingenuous or dishonest.

 

[30CAT]

I don't believe a word he says.

You believe Pedo-Joe? The child groper who lied to black farmers when he said he would meet with them, but meets with an adult male who identifies as a little girl? The same guy who says enter restrooms/showers based on how you identify? The same guy who says our borders are secure?

That guy you put on a pedestal and vote for over Trump?

And you want to talk morals and character?

You're nothing more than a bleater trying to make us think you're not.

You're whoever the Democrat party tells you.

 

[atlkvb]

Trump was a centrist. A cross between JFK & Ronald Reagan.
He was more old school Democrat than anything.

Trump surprised me at how Conservative his policies were. Not sure he was personally as conservative as he governed, but no question his policies were rock solid conservative. It's one reason he won my allegiance. It wasn't just rhetoric with him, he delivered on his promises made to the conservatives who nominated him over a very solid field of other conservative candidates in the '16 primaries. I initially thought he was just talking rhetoric because that's what he needed to say to win the GOP nomination. He wasn't my first choice. However as he eliminated challenger after challenger I took a wait-and-see approach if he would deliver on his promises after defeating the wicked witch of the West.

He came through with flying colors and won my loyalty based on his performance and results. Nothing else the Left said about him mattered to me, and I tuned them out because Trump delivered on his promises and we saw the outstanding results.

They had to purposely wreck the economy and blame him for it. It's the only way they could even half way convince any folks to vote against him. Without that "plandemic", he would have won in a landslide. The Left had nothing to offer better than his results, so they trashed the economy to blame him and get rid of him because he was doing so well.

 

[atlkvb]

You believe Pedo-Joe? The child groper who lied to black farmers when he said he would meet with them, but meets with an adult male who identifies as a little girl? The same guy who says enter restrooms/showers based on how you identify? The same guy who says our borders are secure?

That guy you put on a pedestal and vote for over Trump?

And you want to talk morals and character?

You're nothing more than a bleater trying to make us think you're not.

You're whoever the Democrat party tells you.

The guy he voted for as a so called "centrist" lied and said he'd bring us all together as a moderate. He's governed about as far Left as any Leftist we've ever had and he's about as a-moral as one can imagine!

 

[atlkvb]

I’m not a one issue voter. Not sure if you’re dense or just argumentative.

I'm simply asking you to give me the name of a candidate who is as "centrist" as you are? Someone who is Pro Choice, and favors school choice vouchers? Or is "centrist" on any other issue you want to name. The fact you cannot supply one name who represents how you claim to vote tells me you're not being sincere.

However you did vote for a Democrat who is not only anti-centrist...but one of THE most radical, bitter, hard core Left wing partisans we've seen governing in the White House since FDR. You eagerly voted for him as creepy as he is, but you can't name one "centrist" who also won your carefully considered vote.

Why not?

 

[atlkvb]

You think there are absolutely zero candidates that believe in school vouchers and are pro-choice? Or vice versa.

So far, you haven't proven otherwise? I'm suggesting there is no such candidate. If they're Pro Life, most likely they are also pro school choice vouchers. If the opposite is true, (they're pro choice) they most likely also DO NOT support school choice vouchers. Parents can kill their unwanted kids, but not pick the schools they want to send them to. (Leftists)

Now I'm willing to admit I could be wrong, but you can't prove that I am. If you can, please do so now. All I need is one name, particularly and preferably someone YOU voted for as a self admitted "centrist"

Well...how 'bout it @NYC_Eer ?

 

[sammyk]

Once again, you either don't understand or are willfully ignoring the point. I did not say I only vote based on issues. Of course someone's character comes into play...maybe even more so. That is where Trump comes up short. He is devoid of character. I don't believe a word he says. He's morally corrupt.

And I don't care to lie to you when I don't care what you think. You don't understand that ei

 

[NYC_Eer]

So far, you haven't proven otherwise? I'm suggesting there is no such candidate. If they're Pro Life, most likely they are also pro school choice vouchers. If the opposite is true, (they're pro choice) they most likely also DO NOT support school choice vouchers. Parents can kill their unwanted kids, but not pick the schools they want to send them to. (Leftists)

Now I'm willing to admit I could be wrong, but you can't prove that I am. If you can, please do so now. All I need is one name, particularly and preferably someone YOU voted for as a self admitted "centrist"

Well...how 'bout it @NYC_Eer ?

Someone is stroking out again. Truck sales must be slow and you have nothing else to do.

 

[sammyk]

Someone is stroking out again. Truck sales must be slow and you have nothing else to do.

Who Kayne

 

[atlkvb]

Someone is stroking out again. Truck sales must be slow and you have nothing else to do.

Nope...I'm actually "boring" myself exposing YOU! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Who'd you vote for that's a "centrist"?

@NYC_Eer ...coming clean

 

[roadtrasheer]

You're a moron. Regan my ***. You're the reason he exists.

He has no principles. He has no moral compass or political beliefs. He's a populist and a nationalist, but he probably doesn't even really believe in the nationlist ****...just knows morons like you eat that **** up. He only does what gins up division and hate, because that is in his best interest. Trump is only about Trump.

Yeah I'm guessing you believe the Russian collusion story even after the facts are out.