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groomer_eer how much is rent for a view of the kids playground?
That is literally all you have. Some QAnon generalization about liberals, of which I'm not even one. Literally...all you're clinging onto. Clean up on aisle 5.
 

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Walmart isn’t terrible either. Team-leads make 21.50/hr
Cracking Up Lol GIF
 

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the Crime rate is still very low compared to the past 40-50 years.
Yeah...but here's what YOU said:
if you look at the most dangerous states they are Republican ran so what about that?????

and this is how you backed it up?
another talking point that is actually not as bad as it has been

Now I realize we all have our prejudices and biases, but when you make statements like you did above and are asked to factually back them up...don't you think you've kinda missed your mark with these answers as well as the whole point of your aimless post?

I mean 'cmon @sammyk ....where's the facts behind your point?


@sammyk ...admitting he doesn't really have one

Poor guy.
 

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That is literally all you have. Some QAnon generalization about liberals, of which I'm not even one. Literally...all you're clinging onto. Clean up on aisle 5.

Why are you afraid of calling yourself a Leftist Liberal? You're certainly not Conservative. Where do you agree with Republicans? If you're not proud of what you are or what you vote for, why lie about it?
 
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@NYC_Eer as a Conservative I'd argue the 3 biggest defining issues of Non Athiest Leftist Socialists are Life of the unborn resulting from our belief in our Supreme Creator, individual Liberty from limited Government that respects the ultimate authority of our Creator and its Constitutionally defined constraints, plus free Market entrepreneurial Capitalism that allows those who work hard enough to achieve & maintain as much wealth as they are capable of based on their God given abilities and free from Government confiscatory taxation due to misguided income redistribution schemes.

There are of course others but to me those define a true non Leftist. You don't agree with any of those principles! You despise at least one of them, and strongly disagree with the others. Why does not that NOT define you as a Leftist Liberal Socialist Athiest income redistributionist?
 
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@NYC_Eer as a Conservative I'd argue the 3 biggest defining issues of Non Athiest Leftist Socialists are Life of the unborn resulting from our belief in our Supreme Creator, individual Liberty from limited Government that adheres respects the ultimate authority of our Creator and its Constitutionally defined constraints, plus free Market entrepreneurial Capitalism that allows those who work hard enough to achieve & maintain as much wealth as they based on their God given abilities and free from Government confiscatory taxation due to misguided income redistribution schemes.

There are of course others but to me those define a true non Leftist. You don't agree with any of those principles! You despise at least one of them, and disagree with the others. Why does not that NOT define you as a Leftist Liberal Socialist Athiest income redistributionist?

he’s an atheist. the absence of God in his life assumes he’s exempt from certain sins
 

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he’s an atheist. the absence of God in his life assumes he’s exempt from certain sins

He says he's not a Leftist or Liberal...most of them deny Almighty God's authority both in their lives and over the Government.

Fact.
 

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That is literally all you have. Some QAnon generalization about liberals, of which I'm not even one

@NYC_Eer says he's not a Liberal. He thinks as Liberals think, he supports what Liberals support, he opposes what Liberals oppose, he Loves what Liberals Love and he hates what Liberals hate.

Given all of that, what makes him anything but a Liberal? He won't explain it, but does he even have to? If he's not a Liberal what is he? A "moderate"? Those are just Liberals too embarrased to admit they're Liberal. 😂
 

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So nothing to say that crime is still near all time lows in the past 50 years??????
 

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Why are you afraid of calling yourself a Leftist Liberal? You're certainly not Conservative. Where do you agree with Republicans? If you're not proud of what you are or what you vote for, why lie about it?
Because I'm not a liberal. I'm a Centrist. I vote for Reps and Dems. I vote for people not parties. I don't just vote no because someone is pro-life or pro-gun if I believe their other stances are more important. I don't just do what the church and Trump tell me to.
 

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Because I'm not a liberal. I'm a Centrist. I vote for Reps and Dems. I vote for people not parties. I don't just vote no because someone is pro-life or pro-gun if I believe their other stances are more important. I don't just do what the church and Trump tell me to.
I can dig that
 

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Because I'm not a liberal. I'm a Centrist. I vote for Reps and Dems. I vote for people not parties. I don't just vote no because someone is pro-life or pro-gun if I believe their other stances are more important. I don't just do what the church and Trump tell me to.
Who are you voting for in the New York Gubernatorial race? Please explain why in your answer.
 

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Because I'm not a liberal. I'm a Centrist. I vote for Reps and Dems. I vote for people not parties. I don't just vote no because someone is pro-life or pro-gun if I believe their other stances are more important. I don't just do what the church and Trump tell me to.
I don't disbelieve you, I just don't think you can prove that. If you can, define some issues that make you a "Centrist"? Give some examples or offer a few past posts which define how you follow what you claim you are?

Pick any issue. Or I can suggest a few. Just tell me what makes you a "Centrist"? Can you?
 

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I don't disbelieve you, I just don't think you can prove that. If you can, define some issues that make you a "Centrist"? Give some examples or offer a few past posts which define how you follow what you claim you are?

Pick any issue. Or I can suggest a few. Just tell me what makes you a "Centrist"? Can you?
I don't care whether you believe me or not. I'm not here for your approval.
 

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Who are you voting for in the New York Gubernatorial race? Please explain why in your answer.
Probably Zeldin, because I don't care about the abortion issue, and he's more pro-business. Hard to get past the Trump and election denying stuff, but I don't think he believes it. Just doing it to get elected. Plus, Hochul is only governor because Cuomo resigned, and hasn't done a good job on a number of issues.
 

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I don't care whether you believe me or not. I'm not here for your approval.
I didn't suggest you were. I'm simply asking you to back up what you obviously felt was important enough for me to at least read about you...that you are a "centrist". So since you felt comfortable telling me that about yourself, I felt it was only reasonable to ask you to define that or at least explain it to me?

Rather than answer me with with your own supportable posts or positions on a few "centrist" issues, you turn all snarky, accuse me of things I've never said and basically just revert back to your standard reaction whenever I ask you to explain yourself...

@NYC_Eer ...this is exactly why I hate you so much atl....you just like seeing me doing this don't 'ya?

I have to be honest @NYC_Eer ...I do get a kick out if it! :joy:
 
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Probably Zeldin, because I don't care about the abortion issue, and he's more pro-business. Hard to get past the Trump and election denying stuff, but I don't think he believes it. Just doing it to get elected. Plus, Hochul is only governor because Cuomo resigned, and hasn't done a good job on a number of issues.
Fair enough. Zeldin favors school vouchers for Parents...you OK with that too?
 

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Because I'm not a liberal. I'm a Centrist. I vote for Reps and Dems. I vote for people not parties. I don't just vote no because someone is pro-life or pro-gun if I believe their other stances are more important. I don't just do what the church and Trump tell me to.

LOL!!! You voted for Pedo-Joe
 

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Lincoln Project.

It is the resting place for fiscally conservative liberals who had to hate Trump because the Trump admin was effectively attacking the child sex and child trafficking industry.
 

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Probably Zeldin, because I don't care about the abortion issue, and he's more pro-business. Hard to get past the Trump and election denying stuff, but I don't think he believes it. Just doing it to get elected. Plus, Hochul is only governor because Cuomo resigned, and hasn't done a good job on a number of issues.

lol you voted for Predator Joe. ‘Nuff said
 

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Lincoln Project.

It is the resting place for fiscally conservative liberals who had to hate Trump because the Trump admin was effectively attacking the child sex and child trafficking industry.
LOL. QAnon Dave.
 

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Fair enough. Zeldin favors school vouchers for Parents...you OK with that too?
I’m fine with vouchers and charter schools, and agree with his stance on eliminating critical race theory and other racial curriculum and eliminating age-in appropriate sex education.

Hochul hasn’t really discussed education so I assume she’s in favor of the status quo, which I am not.
 

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LOL. QAnon Dave.

I'm 100% certain @dave can tell you why he votes Republican. You can't explain why you vote "centrist"? Who's the last well known "centrist" to get your well thought out carefully weighed and balanced ballot?

That silence we hear is from an "absentee" (in the mind) voter.
 

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I’m fine with vouchers and charter schools, and agree with his stance on eliminating critical race theory and other racial curriculum and eliminating age-in appropriate sex education.

Hochul hasn’t really discussed education so I assume she’s in favor of the status quo, which I am not.

Fair enough, you realize you voted for a candidate who opposes all of that and describes parents who demand accountability from their local school boards as domestic terrorists? (Biden's DOJ)

So this is why I don't think you are genuine or really understand what you're voting for. However I appreciate your attempt to be honest, as disingenuous as it appears.
 

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Fair enough, you realize you voted for a candidate who opposes all of that and describes parents who demand accountability from their local school boards as domestic terrorists? (Biden's DOJ)

So this is why I don't think you are genuine or really understand what you're voting for. However I appreciate your attempt to be honest, as disingenuous as it appears.
So, again you don't understand. Many candidates are going to have different stances on many subjects. Apparently you think there is on monolithic group of candidates that all think the same. Some candidates that believe in school vouchers will different on my opinion on other subjects. Unlike Trumpers, not everyone thinks the same.

You think there are absolutely zero candidates that believe in school vouchers and are pro-choice? Or vice versa.
 

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So, again you don't understand. Many candidates are going to have different stances on many subjects. Apparently you think there is on monolithic group of candidates that all think the same. Some candidates that believe in school vouchers will different on my opinion on other subjects. Unlike Trumpers, not everyone thinks the same.

You think there are absolutely zero candidates that believe in school vouchers and are pro-choice? Or vice versa.
No. However I do find it amusing how you claim to support school choice vouchers but voted against them in the last Presidential election? Trump both supported and promoted school choice vouchers, but it wasn't an important enough issue for you to stick to your "centrist" values to overlook his personal foibles and vote for that issue based on principle. One of the other posters said you voted simply out of pure hatred and rage (against Trump) and this admission proves it!

If school choice vouchers is important to you as a Parent and you vote for issues over personalities as you previously claimed, why was it not more important for you to vote for it in the last election? Aren't you admitting that you do indeed vote for the "person" rather than the issue as you stated and in fact is demonstrated by your vote against school choice vouchers when you cast your ballot for Biden over Trump?

Rather than claiming I don't understand how you can be a "centrist" you are simply not very convincing or honest in defense of your stated position based on how you voted. That's not my not misunderstanding, that's you prevaricating.
 
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You think there are absolutely zero candidates that believe in school vouchers and are pro-choice? Or vice versa.
Can you name someone? (Pro choice and Pro school choice vouchers) If they're Democrats, they both oppose restrictions on abortion and school choice vouchers. If I'm wrong about that, correct me with a name or two?