Because the evidence is so ****** I'm guessing it wasn't heard in many if not all of the 100 cases your side has lost...many overseen by Trump appointment federal judges. Keep trying though. I'm sure you'll win at least one of these cases some day. And then I'm sure no one will ever hear the end of it. Win 1 and lose 100, and I'm sure I know which one you'll focus on.I hate to pick on you, but can you please link us to one case where all the evidence of alleged fraud presented was heard, judged, and adjudicated after finding no proof? I'm not aware of one, but perhaps you are since you don't rely on the MSM for your information? Just link us to one case that wasn't "dismissed" ahead of time... where all the evidence was heard, and a Judge or Jury decided the evidence was bogus or false?
Can you?
Didn't think so.
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No! Have you forgotten about the "hanging chads" debacle in 2000? Democrat claims of fraud in 2004 over Kerry's loss? They didn't ***** much in '08 because an African American won, but our side accepted that one as well as his re-election in 2012 but there were questions. Democrats squeal the most when they lose because they know they cheat and they're supposed to always win when they do! When they don't, they blame the other side for doing it!
I just asked you for one case that was "lost" (ie: after a full trial) based on the presented evidence. Since you didn't supply that I assume you cannot, and I remain convinced the cases weren't heard because so many Judges were/are corrupt and didn't want the evidence presented being fully considered so they dismissed the cases.
That's not "losing" a case, (as you stated) that's not being allowed to present one! It's like suggesting the movie 2000 mules is bogus but not even hearing all the evidence presented in it to make that judgement.
You'd know all about that right?
Well I thought court cases that were "lost" were a result of a full weighing of all the evidence by an unbiased jury? Who made the decision the cases filed in courts weren't even worth hearing?
I didn't say that. I gave you a history of Democrat complaints after their candidates lose. They never accept the will of the voters unless they win, and they can't win unless they cheat.
But that wasn't my question. I know all about what you posted. I was asking you. And the reason I ask is because if you accepted results previously WITHOUT the things you listed to make it "fair", then why?
I'll answer you by suggesting we've never really had totally verified and certified elections. We had claims of illegal voting back in 1960, where many believed Nixon had actually won but he never challenged Kennedy's votes in some States where there were allegations of massive voter fraud.
I don't have complete confidence in our voting system, but it is what it is.
I think it's scurrilous the way we don't require legal voter I.D.s from each voter in some States (like California which allows illegals to vote) and that we don't do regular purging/updating of voter registration roles before each election! It's almost as if someone deliberately wants the system so screwed up we can never really be sure who is actually voting...which obviously makes it easier to cheat!
I don't disagree. I'm ok with voter ID. But by you admitting that you have "accepted" past elections, then by not accepting 2020 is a bit odd since you have said cheating has been going on for a long time.
I accept the results, but I stated I don't trust the system. I see no contradiction there. I accept Biden cheated, and I'm convinced the election was stolen but I'm OK handing the cheaters a massive electoral landslide defeat next time around. Until we have the things I outlined to you in post #35, I'll always suspect a portion of the vote is fraudulent no matter which sides wins.
Here’s the problem with your argument. You’re assuming (falsely) that only the Democrats are cheating. This isn’t a Democrat versus Republican fight. There is one real party and that is the establishment. That’s how they get away with it. So yes, until we secure an investigation and allow the evidence to be heard in a court of law that is unbiased, I will always maintain the 2020 election was stolen. It’s really common sense looking at the lack of Biden supporters before and after the election. You’re telling me that dope got the most votes in history and more blacks voted for Biden than Obama?? Let’s get that settled first. There’s no fvcking way in hell.
The only proof you need many of Biden's votes were fraudulent is how quickly he lost the "record" amount of support he supposedly won. I heard a poll today that said fully 70% of folks now think he's doing a terrible job. 70%!!!!!!
How in the Hell does a candidate who got 80 million legitimate supporters lose almost all of that support in less than two years ostensibly doing what he was elected in record numbers to do?
Aw shut up creepy Joe...you got your chance...you cheated!
Do you not think that there were millions of voters who grew tired of Trump's antics and voted for someone else? Is that a possibility?
I'm not excusing, dismissing, or analyzing the election, just simply pointing out a possibility.
I have no doubt there are some former Trump supporters. However, look at the size of his rally’s leading up to the election. We’re talking sold out arenas of 20-30k with another 5-10k or more people waiting outside. Do you really believe these people were fake?
Do you honestly look at Biden's rally crowds compared to Trump's that summer and think Biden got more votes? I'm not trying to be a contrarian as I suppose it's possible more people really voted for Biden, but not based on the crowds we saw at his rallies vs Trump.
Trump rally
Biden rally
Can you explain that?
"Silent majority". I think we are seeing that right now when it comes to Biden and the Democrats. And it will probably show itself in 2024.
Again, it’s really common sense and trusting your eyeballs over fake news.Do you honestly look at Biden's rally crowds compared to Trump's that summer and think Biden got more votes? I'm not trying to be a contrarian as I suppose it's possible more people really voted for Biden, but not based on the crowds we saw at his rallies vs Trump.
Trump rally
Biden rally
Can you explain that?
Well, on one side you had a group that were thumbing their noses at CDC guidelines (admittedly, I was as well). And you had the other side doing a calculated over-protective rules as part of their campaign using COVID.Do you honestly look at Biden's rally crowds compared to Trump's that summer and think Biden got more votes? I'm not trying to be a contrarian as I suppose it's possible more people really voted for Biden, but not based on the crowds we saw at his rallies vs Trump.
Trump rally
Biden rally
Can you explain that?
Plus, rallies really don't/shouldn't have an impact on predicting any results. That is very subjective.
Rallys. Only dopey Trump supporters go to rallies. That is not a sign of anything. A lot of Biden's supporters were still hunkered down in their homes due to COVID...right or wrong, but its obvious that more Biden supporters didn't want to venture into large crowds than Trump supporters. Hell, Biden was making them sit 6 feet apart still...you can't have a large rally that way.
And of course all the angry whites that support Trump were gung ho to get out there and go to a rally. If you can't figure that out then you're a moron.
I don’t know where you live, but it’s extremely rare to find a Biden supporter pre 2020 election and especially after. Are you saying these people were too lazy to go to a Biden rally but eager enough to vote? Sorry, not buying it.
You don't have to buy in to it. I'm just simply saying there are other possibilities. Just like I don't buy the claim that the Three Branches of government and state governments led by Republicans were all scheming to get Trump out of office.
OK...however if you use the rally crowds as an indicator of support for each candidate, Trump would logically be the one you'd think got 80 million votes! As it turned out he actually got more re-election votes than any Presidential candidate in history. Yet here comes absent minded creepy Joe, and he got more votes than anyone else in history even though no one bothered to come hear what he had to say and then they all quickly disappeared after they saw what he was doing!
Hey, they've never polled all the dead voters who supported me!
Damn creepy Joe, good observation...especially coming from a legitimate corpse! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
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How do you explain the DOJ approving the Russian disinformation from the Clinton campaign? Serious question?
The DOJ is part of the Executive Branch, correct? That's not another branch of government. And I don't know is my answer. Those that use the Russian collusion as evidence are also some of the same ones using Ukraine/Biden today.
The dope himself is trying to argue we shouldn’t trust our eyes or common sense. That’s a psychological achievement by the msm. Just say “Nope, that’s not really happening in front of my eyes.”How can you call him a "dope" after casting that ballot for Biden?
Well we know for a fact the Obama DOJ (FBI) was in on the scam do we not? We also know for a fact the DNC was in on the scam do we not? We also know for a fact the FISA courts allowed the illegal snooping even though the critical 302's weren't fully vetted do we not? We also know the CIA was in on the scam do we not? We also know Congressional Democrats had access to all the fake evidence so they too were in on the scam correct? We also know the media has never followed up on all the damming exculpatory evidence proving the scam correct?
So we know the Executive, the Judicial, the Congress and the media were all complicit in perpetrating a complete 100% fabricated illegal hoax do we not?
So which branch of the government or which major political party or what part of the media has been left out of the phony made up bought-and-paid-for scam huh?
I can't say for certain whether cheating occurred in 2020 or not, but there are an awful lot of anomalies. For example:
1. Obama was the most popular candidate in US history in 2012. Blacks came out in droves to vote for him. In 2020, Trump shattered that record and lost. That means both candidates in the same election set the record. That doesn't pass the smell test for me.
2. A guy who barely campaigned and has the charisma of a wet blanket got the most votes in history? Again, that is odd.
3. We were told months before the election Trump would be leading on election night and lose the election days later. How could he have predicted that?
4. The videos of the "mules" doing the ballot dumps and the cell phone tracing (oddly enough the same way the Feds tracked the Buffalo shooter's whereabouts).
5. The mail in votes clearly swayed the tide but they all went the same way. IMO, the media set us up by claiming mail in voters are democrats when we have never had mass mail in voting in a federal election which could serve as the basis of the claim.
Maybe there was cheating, maybe not, but these don't pass the smell test for me. Any of them can be explained away but as I tell juries, when someone has to explain away fact, after fact, after fact, the alarm bells should be going off in one's head.
This was MY argument in 1998 when both Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa broke Roger Maris’s homerun record the same season. From the 1920’s until 1998, only 2 men hit 60 homeruns in a single season. Yet over the course of the following few seasons after 1998, Sosa did it 3 times in 4 years and McGwire did it 2 straight years. I called it in 1998 and through Bonds breaking it again. It didn’t pass then. And it was proven McGwire and Sosa cheated.
Well even if what you claim about Biden supporters is true (it isn't but I'm using your own logic to destroy you) why have they all so quickly abandoned him in support of the vote they all cast in record numbers less than two years ago?
Using your logic, they'd almost be anxious now to show their support since it was so effortlessly easy for them to just stay home and "mail in" their preferences in record numbers for his stewardship correct? Instead, not only did they not show up at his rallies, they don't even bother to tell anonymous poll takers now how much they appreciate the stellar job he's been performing for them!
Why not?
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When the questions and facts cannot be answered or argued, it’s safe to say it’s been proven. It was stolen.
Exactly! They refuse to watch the movie actually proving what they claim never happened, and they boast court cases dismissed without hearing even more evidence is proof the fraud claims are not legitimate.
I know YOU can't explain what those mules were up to dumping thousands of ballots into those drop boxes? I know that was illegal, and there's video proof of it. You dispute that too?