Fake electors?

atlkvb

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I’ll be voting for whoever is espousing the goals of America first. If it’s Trump in 24, I’ll vote for him. I’m hoping it’s DeSantis.

Agreed. If Trump doesn't run again, I hope whoever does takes up his "America first" agenda.
 

atlkvb

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Yes Donald Trump is a con man.
He conned America when he told Americans that a house burned down with Melania in it.
Trump conned America when he said he was offered a job by an Idaho lumber company.
He conned America when he said he use to drive an 18 wheeler.
Donald conned America when he said that he visited the Pittsburgh synagogue after the 2018 massacre when the synagogue said that he'd never been there.
Trump conned America when he told voters that when he was younger he got arrested for protesting civil rights
He conned America when he said that protesters on January 6th murdered Brian Sicknick
He conned America when he said that small business are up 30% compared to before the pandemic
He lied when he said that Al Qaeda was gone from Afghanistan
He conned America when he said automobile prices are lower than before the pandemic
He lied when he said that he could send every qualified person to a 4 year college for 150 billion dollars
He lied when he said that the Boilermakers union endorsed him
Trump lied when he said that all the people who has died during the pandemic would be alive if Joe Biden did his job right.
Trump conned America with plagiarized speeches
Trump conned America when he said that he finished in the top of his law class.

These are just a few lies that proves that Trump was a conman. There are many more instances. Oh wait, that is just a small list of current President Joe Biden's many lies and cons to the American people. Joe Biden is the very definition of a conman
Trump also lied when he told Black voters "they ain't Black" if they can't figure out to vote for him!


Oh...wait....my bad....I thought Trump said that?

Well atl?

Maybe that creepy loser who actually said that DJT???? Run....PLEASE???????????????
 
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30CAT

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Trump also lied when he told Black voters they "ain't Black" if they can't figure out to vote for him!


Oh...wait....my bad....I thought Trump said that?

Well atl?

Maybe that creepy loser who actually said that about you DJT???? Run....PLEASE???????????????

What a buffoon Pedo-Joe is. All that and he still had people voting for him.

Hatred. That's how the pedophile won.
 

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Hey @30CAT how much longer will all those "record" Biden voters who still hate Trump stay away from this forum if DJT throws his 'hair' back into the '24 Presidential ring? I know they're embarrassed right now to come on here & show their support for creepy Joe...but will their near maniacal hatred for Trump bring them back supporting their cheater-in-chief?

How much hate does the party of hate still have for "Orange man bad"? You know you're the one who called them out as a bunch of hate filled voters long before creepy Joe was installed & started screwing sh*t up?

Good call @30CAT [thumbsup]
 

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And who are you going to vote for in that election that cant come soon enough? Yet, his unprecedented actions during his last days in power, is not relevant today? You guys are a special kind of dicks.
Certainly I’ll vote for local conservatives like Winsome Sears & Jason Mirayes & Glen Youngkin. You should be terrified of the blue print they provided for future conservative candidates.

Maybe I’ll vote for Manchin/Sinema if they hold up for another year. So far, they have saved the country and our constitution. Maybe I’ll vote for Nikki Haley/Kristi Noem since it is time for for a female president.

You don’t even know who is running. You don’t even know who is really running the country right now. What you are is terrified DJT will run again. What you don’t know would fill the volumes. So you throw mud at him and his family but it is meaningless since he has no power right now. This is a waste of time, I’m out of here.
 

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Hey @30CAT how much longer will all those "record" Biden voters who still hate Trump stay away from this forum if DJT throws his 'hair' back into the '24 Presidential ring? I know they're embarrassed right now to come on here & show their support for creepy Joe...but will their near maniacal hatred for Trump bring them back supporting their cheater-in-chief?

How much hate does the party of hate still have for "Orange man bad"? You know you're the one who called them out as a bunch of hate filled voters long before creepy Joe was installed & started screwing sh*t up?

Good call @30CAT [thumbsup]

I actually think the ones who left and won't return is a good sign. They know they screwed up and they'll vote accordingly in the mid-terms and in 2024. No way they admit it, because admitting they're wrong is much worse than putting our country first. Their unadulterated hatred caused them to screw themselves over. You don't have to like someone, to love your country. I get why many don't like Trump, however, all the hatred in the world doesn't change the fact that he loves America, puts it first and knows it belongs to The People, not the government.

People need to put their hatred and team loyalty of a party to the side and put our country first.

I don't care about Rs and Ds or liberals and conservatives. Whoever puts America and its people first is who I'm voting for. If that's a Republican, a Democrat or an Independent, I really don't care.

Everyone knew Pedo-Joe would be a disaster. Unfortunately, the sheep put their hatred above their country. A crying shame.

The Party of Hate....That's today's left.
 

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Unless the whole party changes and disavows the Marxists, who are their base, I can't vote for any Democrat.
 

atlkvb

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Unless the whole party changes and disavows the Marxists, who are their base, I can't vote for any Democrat.
Me either. I don't have to go any further than their refusal to stand up for innocent unborn human Life to know that party is Evil.

No thanks.
 

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I’ll be voting for whoever is espousing the goals of America first. If it’s Trump in 24, I’ll vote for him. I’m hoping it’s DeSantis.
I hope Biden announces he is not running. And Harris gets crushed in the Primary by a Gabbard or Buttigeig. And we start to move away from extremism on both sides. But it is VERY TELLING to me that I am already thinking of 2024 too.
 

atlkvb

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Political reality today (good or bad) is that "extremes" in both parties run the nomination process. Biden was sold as a so called "moderate" to keep the Democrats from being wiped out with a more pronounced radical Leftist candidate. However nothing in his policies to date suggests the "moderation" he was falsely sold as to voters. That's primarily why most voters are turning on him.

On the GOP side, there is an ongoing purging of so called "moderates" in favor of true Constitutional Conservatives. One thing the Left fails to understand about Trump and his ongoing appeal...is he represents that Conservative Constitutional movement inside the GOP. If he didn't embrace it...he'd already be political toast.

The "extremes" of both parties are running things now. My bet is the country will vote center Right as opposed to the radical far Left in the next election cycle. No one wants unchecked Socialism. No one. Voters are not against more Freedom and Liberty while we restore our God given Constitutional rights which have helped to make America great.

Trump's "make America great again" campaign slogan is all about re-affirming those Constitutional rights and building on them to restore his America first agenda. He still has tremendous support for that, and the polices he was pursuing to make it happen.
 

atlkvb

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I hope Biden announces he is not running. And Harris gets crushed in the Primary by a Gabbard or Buttigeig. And we start to move away from extremism on both sides. But it is VERY TELLING to me that I am already thinking of 2024 too.
I think it's very telling how a candidate who supposedly got "record numbers" of voters (the most in history) has lost almost all of that support for his policies or their results to date? It has to be one of THE most rapid if not the biggest collapses of a Presidential agenda in recent history.

Listen to none other than Chuck Todd of NBC news discuss the dismal Biden polling numbers from his own biased network
 
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Boomboom521

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Explain please
He has always carried himself with a sense of entitlement. My brother liked him back in the 80’s when we were growing up, had a poster of him and Trump Tower. My dad had one of his books. When the Taj bombed and his airline bombed, he began attacking working class people back then: contractors, casino workers, as if though it was their fault. He even blamed a deceased partner.

His history of stiffing contractors and partners, and using a litigation marathon to win. His desire to own and constantly be in Private Country Club settings. I think he is an elitist.
 

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Yes. What I dont know could fill volumes. Yes. I am scared of Trump running again. No. I dont think I have said much about his family (but anything I have said couldnt have been good).

And Nikki Haley would get my vote maybe.
 

atlkvb

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He has always carried himself with a sense of entitlement. My brother liked him back in the 80’s when we were growing up, had a poster of him and Trump Tower. My dad had one of his books. When the Taj bombed and his airline bombed, he began attacking working class people back then: contractors, casino workers, as if though it was their fault. He even blamed a deceased partner.

His history of stiffing contractors and partners, and using a litigation marathon to win. His desire to own and constantly be in Private Country Club settings. I think he is an elitist.
Surprised you'd despise him for being "elitist"? I thought you folks enjoyed each other's company? You admitting something to us now about yourself we don't know?

You're not "elitist"? You've been putting on an act all this time as just a mere "commoner"?


@Boomboom521...just an ordinary plebe


Damn boomer....I thought you were in with the 1% crowd? The crème-de-la-crème?????

Oh haven't you heard creepy Joe??? He's an "educator"!!!!! Very elite don't 'ya know? 🤔
 
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atlkvb

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Yes. What I dont know could fill volumes. Yes. I am scared of Trump running again. No. I dont think I have said much about his family (but anything I have said couldnt have been good).

And Nikki Haley would get my vote maybe.
So just stay home then. You're obviously too sophisticated and "non partisan' to get yourself all bogged down in the next election cycle which will be fought hard by "extremists" on both sides. Far Left radical big Government Socialists vs far Right Free market Constitutional Conservatives.

T-it up...bring on the '22 midterms Baby!!!!!


@Boomboom521 ...taking a stand on the next losing election for his friends on the Left
 
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I hope Biden announces he is not running. And Harris gets crushed in the Primary by a Gabbard or Buttigeig. And we start to move away from extremism on both sides. But it is VERY TELLING to me that I am already thinking of 2024 too.
The extremists are what controls the parties now, specifically due to the moderates. The moderates left both parties and went independent. The only people left in the parties are extremists. Want better party candidates? Rejoin the party.
 

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The extremists are what controls the parties now, specifically due to the moderates. The moderates left both parties and went independent. The only people left in the parties are extremists. Want better party candidates? Rejoin the party.
My father said basically the same thing when I reg Independent. That I wont have a chance to shape the party, I see now what he meant by that.
 

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My father said basically the same thing when I reg Independent. That I wont have a chance to shape the party, I see now what he meant by that.
And, to be honest, I don’t see the GOP as being extreme. What’s being pushed are a lot of old moderate blue dog Dem initiatives. Help me out on where you see the extreme policy issues they’re pushing for.
 

atlkvb

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And, to be honest, I don’t see the GOP as being extreme. What’s being pushed are a lot of old moderate blue dog Dem initiatives. Help me out on where you see the extreme policy issues they’re pushing for.
I'll give that one a shot. Trump's SUPCO appointments were vociferously fought by the radical Left because of their non defensible refusal to protect innocent unborn human life. Now that the Nation's highest court could be ruling this election cycle on sending the issue of abortion rights back to the States, look for the party of death to try and blame Trump's "extremist" abortion views and court appointees as THE reason to oppose his candidacy.

While the media virtually ignores the most "extreme" position one can have on protecting Life (supporting the dismemberment of perfectly healthy babies moments from their birth) Pro Life candidates are winning GOP votes and support. Trump was the most Pro Life GOP candidate in a generation and that's what makes him and his supporters "extreme" to the radical far Left Pro Aborts. (like @Boomboom521 )
 
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atlkvb

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My father said basically the same thing when I reg Independent. That I wont have a chance to shape the party, I see now what he meant by that.
Good please stay home then. There is no "independent party" to support your "no where man" mythical candidate. 😒
 

atlkvb

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He has always carried himself with a sense of entitlement
Damn boomboob, folks who carry themselves with a "sense of entitlement" represent the entire base of today's Socialist Democrat party! You are effectively dissin' the largest block of Democrat supporters who reliably vote for big Government Dems virtually every election cycle....the "entitlement class".

Don't you still support your party's most dependable base? Are you a Traitor or a Liar? 🤨
 

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And, to be honest, I don’t see the GOP as being extreme. What’s being pushed are a lot of old moderate blue dog Dem initiatives. Help me out on where you see the extreme policy issues they’re pushing for.
The wall was extreme, imo.
 

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The wall was extreme, imo.
Wall was extreme...
Ok how about all the deaths from the fentanyl coming across the border? All the money being spent on illegals? the massive overload of law enforcement ? The gun violence brought in by the gangs coming in ? You dont think a wall would have helped? Tell that to the many countries that use them . Yes , we all know a wall alone was not the answer, but it is a very important part of stopping it . & this administration appeasing the criminals coming in ...
 

atlkvb

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The wall was extreme, imo.
Open borders are extreme. Do you leave your front door open for anyone to just walk into your house whenever they feel like it?

Ans: NO...in fact HELL NO!!!!!!

It's not the same thing? Why not?

Don't answer that. :rolleyes:
 

atlkvb

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Extreme to do what you are supposed to do & that is protect our borders..simply amazing
Now you know what a phony he is "pretending" he's not a far Left radical. Only Leftist radicals think protecting our borders and enforcing legal immigration into this country is "extreme".

Fraud. 😒
 

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I dont think it solves our drug problem, and I think there are better ways to spend that amount of money on that effort.
It aids in solving the illegal crossings by funneling them to smaller areas where we can concentrate our limited resources. It also forces the cartels to use different methods to move them allowing us to focus on that. There was huge benefit to the wall. Especially, when you coupled the wall with a change in immigration policy of ending C&R and running the remain in Mexico policy for asylum seekers. Huge huge benefit.

One thing is for sure, what was working is for sure broken. Is the wall the only example you could come up with that was extreme? An example of executing what every President since Bush 41 had promised across both parties. Got anything actually extreme?