OT: Colin Powell has died

WVUPharm2007

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Interesting that OP was searching for Colin Powell and BBC
Yeah, because they always publish obituaries really fast. They have thousands of celebrities and government officials obituaries canned and ready to go.

That said...solid joke.
 
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Would have liked to have seen him as President. His support of the Iraqi invasion pretty much nuked that possibility though. S
 

DrVenkman#

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I have never seen anyone in politics completely piss away their credibility more than Powell did with making the case for WMD's in Iraq. Guy would have beat Clinton in 1996 if he ran.

 

NYC_Eer

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Death doesn’t care about class. Shew.
No ****, but society does. And you have none of it. Making a political comment about someone's death is childish at best. Says more about you and Colin Powell that's for sure. And you're argument about whatever people said about Rush sounds like an argument my 6 yr old makes.
 

GrimReaper82

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No ****, but society does. And you have none of it. Making a political comment about someone's death is childish at best. Says more about you and Colin Powell that's for sure. And you're argument about whatever people said about Rush sounds like an argument my 6 yr old makes.
Lol. I never mentioned Rush, Dickface.
You and your husband adopted?
 
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WVUMPA98

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Would have liked to have seen him as President. His support of the Iraqi invasion pretty much nuked that possibility though. S


Iraq wasn't political-- they weren't intentionally lying -- the Intelligence Community literally thought they had WMD... George Tenet (a lifelong Democract and Clinton appointee who George Bush retained as CIA Director told Bush the WMD case was a slam dunk because his analysts told him Iraq had WMD). In the end turns out only Saddam and his two idiot sons really knew the truth -- that they had gotten rid of their WMD. The truth was they wanted the world to think they had WMD's -- they told their own generals they had WMD's --- mostly to strike fear in the hearts of the large Shia population in their own country and in the one next door (Iran). Saddam's biggest fear (as a Sunni) was losing his country to the Shia (and/or Iranian Shia).

It's one of those things that all best Signals intelligence or Human intel in the world probably wouldn't have figured out unless you had someone in the very inner circle -- or had recruited one of those two idiot boys to be your spies.
 

Mountaineer Gooch

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Iraq wasn't political-- they weren't intentionally lying -- the Intelligence Community literally thought they had WMD... George Tenet (a lifelong Democract and Clinton appointee who George Bush retained as CIA Director told Bush the WMD case was a slam dunk because his analysts told him Iraq had WMD). In the end turns out only Saddam and his two idiot sons really knew the truth -- that they had gotten rid of their WMD. The truth was they wanted the world to think they had WMD's -- they told their own generals they had WMD's --- mostly to strike fear in the hearts of the large Shia population in their own country and in the one next door (Iran). Saddam's biggest fear (as a Sunni) was losing his country to the Shia (and/or Iranian Shia).

It's one of those things that all best Signals intelligence or Human intel in the world probably wouldn't have figured out unless you had someone in the very inner circle -- or had recruited one of those two idiot boys to be your spies.
So, RIP in Colin Powell ??
 

FallingRun84

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I don't doubt the intelligence indicated there was WMD's. However, I don't think they were a threat to us or our allies at the time, and there were ways to mitigate future risk and eliminate the WMD's over time, or find out they did not exist. However, I also think George Jr, saw an opportunity to go in and took it because Saddam threaten George the Sr and the TX redneck came out. I remember sitting on my couch when the TV started showing the bombing and I said to my wife..."Who thinks this is a good idea?"
 

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No ****, but society does. And you have none of it. Making a political comment about someone's death is childish at best. Says more about you and Colin Powell that's for sure. And you're argument about whatever people said about Rush sounds like an argument my 6 yr old makes.
Wow, NYC giving advice about class on a message board....shew. Next thing you know, he will be driving a used car and eating Freedom Fries.
 
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His family’s own statement says COVID complications.
Peggy Cifrino, Powell’s longtime aide, said he had been treated over the past few years for multiple myeloma, a blood cancer. The Powell family’s social media post did not address whether Powell had any underlying illnesses.

Multiple myeloma impairs the body’s ability to fight infection, and studies have shown that those cancer patients don’t get as much protection from the COVID-19 vaccines as healthier people.
 

Snuffy Smif

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His family’s own statement says COVID complications.

Man dies falling off a ladder with COVID complications.
https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/croat...r-falling-from-ladder-was-killed-by-covid-19/

Murder suicide with COVID complications.
https://www.citizensjournal.us/bang-murder-suicide-instantly-classified-as-covid-deaths/

Death by car accident with COVID complications.
https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/h...death/67-f77eeb4b-b002-40d3-bda8-675c1796df40


CDC director agrees hospitals have monetary incentive to inflate COVID-19 data

Republican Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer of Missouri questioned Redfield during a House Oversight and Reform subcommittee hearing on coronavirus containment. He asked about the “perverse incentive” for hospitals to classify deaths as being coronavirus related when the virus didn’t cause the death.

Luetkemeyer voiced concern about how an automobile accident-related death could be recorded as a COVID-related death. In this scenario, the death was recorded as COVID-related because the virus was in the victim’s system, even if the car accident was the major factor.

“As long as you have COVID in your system you get to claim it as a COVID death, which means you get more money as attending physician, hospital, whatever,” Luetkemeyer said during the hearing. “Would you like to comment on that, about the perverse incentive? Is there an effort to try and do something different.”

Redfield responded by telling the congressman, “I think you’re correct in that and we’ve seen this in other disease processes too.”

“In the HIV epidemic, somebody may have a heart attack but also have HIV,” Redfield explained. “The hospital would prefer the DRG [death report] for HIV because there’s greater reimbursement. So I do think there is some reality to that.”


 

dave

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R.I.P. General Powell.

That said, he died of blood cancer. Not COVID.
Complication of COVID is code for he died with Covid. Just like millions die from pneumonia after contracting cancer or any number of other debilitating diseases.
 

Gold-n-Blue

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Colin Powell was one of my personal favorite public servants. I genuinely believe he is a patriot and would have been a great president.
 

BigEer

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Peggy Cifrino, Powell’s longtime aide, said he had been treated over the past few years for multiple myeloma, a blood cancer. The Powell family’s social media post did not address whether Powell had any underlying illnesses.

Multiple myeloma impairs the body’s ability to fight infection, and studies have shown that those cancer patients don’t get as much protection from the COVID-19 vaccines as healthier people.
This was the type of cancer my Dad had.
 

boomerwv

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If something doesn't work 100 percent of the time it works 0% of the time.

Signed,

Idiots
 

WVUATL1

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Always respected Colin Powell. Sad to see he has passed. I appreciated his service to our country in so many ways.