OT-PSA this is concerning

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There are not that many "far right" groups in the United States The ones that do exist could care less about Flynn or Trump. Both of those men were registered Democrats the majority of their life. The majority of the problem is far left groups and a few Anarchist groups who have the same goal. Destroy our Government so they can replace it.
 

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On both sides of the aisle. I agree.
Agreed...but let me edit that. In the context of a "civil war" the far left would be less likely to instigate an armed conflict. Their M.O. is more about shaming people/organizations into compliance. Handbags at 20 paces. Those far-right nuts are the ones playing Rambo in the woods. ANTIFA dudes are swinging skateboards.
 
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Personally, I consider ANTIFA and the Proud Boys to be on par with each other. I’d argue anyone spouting the crazy **** coming out of the Uber-progressive’s mouths to be as much if not more of a threat to our country than the MTG’s of the world right now because it’s gaining traction. Far Right and Far Left really aren’t any different. Both are extremists, one ends in fascism and the other socialism leading to communism, neither is good for us.

The left is currently trying to destroy us fiscally for 2 generations. That’s a bigger threat than Jim Bob from the NC Regulators who is stockpiling but just wants to be left the hell alone.
 

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Scary times. Build a walled fortress in Desert Weeds, Nevada, or buy a dog? Decisions. Decisions.
 

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SMH. Its like you slept through the past couple of years. Antifa and similar groups were on a tear while the FBI and DHS pretend they haven't been infiltrating these groups for years. Federal Agencies are not educating people on the facts. Far right groups are fraction of Antifa, BLM, and the NFAC. All Marxist movements. Neither side is good for our country however what I'm you is telling is the truth.

The "mostly peaceful protest" data gets left out alot.
 
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~IRWT~

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SMH. Its like you slept through the past couple of years. Antifa and similar groups were on a tear while the FBI and DHS pretend they haven't been infiltrating these groups for years. Federal Agencies are not educating people on the facts. Far right groups are fraction of Antifa, BLM, and the NFAC. All Marxist movements. Neither side is good for our country however what I'm you is telling is the truth.

The "mostly peaceful protest" data gets left out alot.
Sounds like you might have a secret crush. Gunny46 and far-right militias sittin' in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
 

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Sounds like you might have a secret crush. Gunny46 and far-right militias sittin' in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.

Look moron. I know all your accounts. I have also called out Far Right Groups unlike you who defends all the Marxist ones. On the off topic board I posted those Far left groups manifestos, twitter accounts, and videos of their actions. That intel can't get anymore legitimate. I warned everyone what they were up to in advance. That all played out and everyone got to see it.
 

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Look moron. I know all your accounts. I have also called out Far Right Groups unlike you who defends all the Marxist ones. On the off topic board I posted those Far left groups manifestos, twitter accounts, and videos of their actions. That intel can't get anymore legitimate. I warned everyone what they were up to in advance. That all played out and everyone got to see it.
Just having a go at you dude. I obviously don’t know (or care) what you do in your free time. I also don’t know why you think I have more than one account. You have mentioned that before. Ask Vernon if I do. He’d know. Or, you can keep going on your gut and ignore the sourced facts that are presented to you.
 

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Just having a go at you dude. I obviously don’t know (or care) what you do in your free time. I also don’t know why you think I have more than one account. You have mentioned that before. Ask Vernon if I do. He’d know. Or, you can keep going on your gut and ignore the sourced facts that are presented to you.

You provided a graph. Everyone else got to see for themselves while it played out all over our country and even around the world. My information isn't a gut feeling. It's factual and only far left nutjobs are trying to defend it.
 

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You provided a graph. Everyone else got to see for themselves while it played out all over our country and even around the world. My information isn't a gut feeling. It's factual and only far left nutjobs are trying to defend it.
I don't know what I am trying to defend. I don't recall defending any vandalism/violence that came out of the BLM protests. You said that the far-left was the bigger threat so I looked it up to see if you were correct. Turns out that CSIS, DHS, FBI, etc says you aren't. Don't blame me for presenting their findings. Counter me with someone else's research if you'd like.
 

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I don't know what I am trying to defend. I don't recall defending any vandalism/violence that came out of the BLM protests. You said that the far-left was the bigger threat so I looked it up to see if you were correct. Turns out that CSIS, DHS, FBI, etc says you aren't. Don't blame me for presenting their findings. Counter me with someone else's research if you'd like.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Religious terrorist attacks were not an issue other than the USS Cole prior to 9/11? It then shows that it was only a blip on the timeline...so I would assume that maybe this chart does not show "real" threats or what is actually happening in America....please feel free to find fault in my thinking....and no I don't think there is going to a civil war in America, but there is a divide that will continue to widen moving forward.
 

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I don't know what I am trying to defend. I don't recall defending any vandalism/violence that came out of the BLM protests. You said that the far-left was the bigger threat so I looked it up to see if you were correct. Turns out that CSIS, DHS, FBI, etc says you aren't. Don't blame me for presenting their findings. Counter me with someone else's research if you'd like.

Because they are not including all the Data. I also said that above. The counter has been posted numerous times on the off topic board. Go look it up. I don't feel the need to keep duplicating work.
 

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I don't know what I am trying to defend. I don't recall defending any vandalism/violence that came out of the BLM protests. You said that the far-left was the bigger threat so I looked it up to see if you were correct. Turns out that CSIS, DHS, FBI, etc says you aren't. Don't blame me for presenting their findings. Counter me with someone else's research if you'd like.
You’d need to do a deeper dive into their collection and qualification requirements. There is no greater internal threat to our country than the radical Marxist agenda at present. Externally, there is no greater threat than the CCP.
 

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You’d need to do a deeper dive into their collection and qualification requirements. There is no greater internal threat to our country than the radical Marxist agenda at present. Externally, there is no greater threat than the CCP.

Now if we could only figure out why the data is incomplete.

 

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Natural Light...c'mon man, you're a grown man with a job
Yeah I know...really its any domestic light pilsner if that makes it any better.

Natural Light is just my favorite. I was out west a few weeks ago and stuck with the local Coors Light.

They allow me to function the next day.

Good beers have their place...but if I'm going all day there's nothing better than reaching into a cooler full of ice and water and cracking open a cold Natty Light.

Mmmmmmmm...beer.
 

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that’s your opinion tho right? Looks like the fbi csis and dhs who study and stat it for a living disagree.
Do you know the data they’re using to qualify their charting data? I’d agree the radical right has the capability to inflict acute damage on a larger scale and has shown more propensity to do it. I’m asking because I don’t know their qualification parameters.

The radical left is overthrowing our systems of finance and Govt, doing it through largely peaceful means if you exclude all of 2020.

Which has the larger potential negative impact? Up to you to decide.
 

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Do you know the data they’re using to qualify their charting data? I’d agree the radical right has the capability to inflict acute damage on a larger scale and has shown more propensity to do it. I’m asking because I don’t know their qualification parameters.

The radical left is overthrowing our systems of finance and Govt, doing it through largely peaceful means if you exclude all of 2020.

Which has the larger potential negative impact? Up to you to decide.
I don’t know how they qualify it no.

how is the rad left overthrowing our finance and govt?
 

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You’d need to do a deeper dive into their collection and qualification requirements. There is no greater internal threat to our country than the radical Marxist agenda at present. Externally, there is no greater threat than the CCP.

But who are the Marxists? ANTIFA? They are like a fraction of a percent of the population. Not exactly proletariate masses there. There is too large a net cast around Marxists. Way too easy to just compress someone into a treasonous & diabolical box by calling them a Marxist. The equivalent of the left just calling everyone they don't like a racist and dropping the mic. Marxism invading the shores of the US will never, ever happen. A vote on universal Pre-K is not the stuff of Marxism/Communism. I'm more concerned about democracy being chipped away by authoritarianism and misinformation.
 

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But who are the Marxists? ANTIFA? They are like a fraction of a percent of the population. Not exactly proletariate masses there. There is too large a net cast around Marxists. Way too easy to just compress someone into a treasonous & diabolical box by calling them a Marxist. The equivalent of the left just calling everyone they don't like a racist and dropping the mic. Marxism invading the shores of the US will never, ever happen. A vote on universal Pre-K is not the stuff of Marxism/Communism. I'm more concerned about democracy being chipped away by authoritarianism and misinformation.
Fair enough, I’d contend anyone advocating pushing over-regulation to the point of excluding counter thought from the public forum and denying access to our finance systems as meeting my definition. And there is a lot of that happening right now.
 

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Do you have a poly, too ?? I bet not….

A lot of people have TS/SCI Clearance but no other accompanying skills to make them marketable for legit job roles so they go to social media to spew banter and rabble rouse the masses.
As I said this wasn't about my clearance or any information that is classified. But since you want to be such a *******. They can't give active duty members a poly only civilians. My TS/SCI-when I had it which was years ago-got me in the same places as TS/SCI w/Poly
 

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You lost me at FBI.

LOL!!!

Lot of credibility right there these days.

Remember when Wray said Antifa was an ideology and not an organization while it's members were organizing molotov cocktail parties, recruiting, training, fire bombing cities, collecting funds, and attacking police. Priceless. Politicians warned him because Federal Agencies have been infiltrating that "ideology" for years.
 

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You’re factually incorrect on the first part of this. Creech is where the strategic drones (Preds and Reapers) are flown. Tactical drones are not flown from there.

The conversation as a whole is nuts to discuss. We may have some very small factions at the extremities wanting a fight, but the overwhelming majority of folks are gonna be like me and let the crazies kill each other off and watch it on TV.
I didn't want to mention Creech but I already said I agree with the tactical drones being flown by units. Not sure what your point is it wasn't me that said drones would be attacking Americans someone else said. I was just pointing our how Creech is a vulnerable base. I personally don't think it will ever come down to this. So go back and argue with whoever said this.
 

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Agreed...but let me edit that. In the context of a "civil war" the far left would be less likely to instigate an armed conflict. Their M.O. is more about shaming people/organizations into compliance. Handbags at 20 paces. Those far-right nuts are the ones playing Rambo in the woods. ANTIFA dudes are swinging skateboards.
How many billions of dollars of damage have the far left caused in the last 18 months and I have lost count of the dead they are responsible for.
 

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Yeah I know...really its any domestic light pilsner if that makes it any better.

Natural Light is just my favorite. I was out west a few weeks ago and stuck with the local Coors Light.

They allow me to function the next day.

Good beers have their place...but if I'm going all day there's nothing better than reaching into a cooler full of ice and water and cracking open a cold Natty Light.

Mmmmmmmm...beer.
I’m a Budweiser guy. Beechwood aged, high test. Drank about 40 of them during the 08 Fiesta Bowl and cried like a baby afterward.
 

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Tonight a friend of my son came over to the house. His dad and uncle own a construction company, which he works for, I have know all three for 20 years. We started talking and he mentioned they just finished 2 houses in the Virginia City Highlands (remote community between VC and Reno). One was a retired federal Marshall the other was retired FBI-didn't know each other. Both houses cost them a small fortune. Literally had 10 foot high solid concrete walls, completely off grid (which can be really expensive in the area). Both said they were getting ready for what was coming down.

Normally this wouldn't concern me too much but I have another son who lives in an even more remote area called Smith Valley and he is seeing the same thing. This is 5 acre lots that have been pretty much sitting empty for the past 15 years now they can't build them fast enough, funny thing is many are empty most of the time, they come up and stay a weekend a month or so and then go back to homes the rest of the time. This is happening all over rural Nevada, these people are preparing for something. Like I said just a PSA.
Somewhere....someplace in Congress....AOC is reading this wanting an Iron Dome over all the Trump supporters homes.

“But! In order to do that...we have to go way, way, waaaaay down into a dungeon to mine the iron ore!”
 

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Guess it depends on the views and if they stored nuclear waste there in the past. Lots of people buying up land in Montana and Wyoming to have a place of solitude. However the idiots that want a civil war need to understand there will be no safe spaces.
Wont be getting weekends off I assume? Probably have to battle more than 8 hrs a day......