OT-PSA this is concerning

nvEERs

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Glad you won’t comment any more on the issue. Wouldn’t want any top secret information getting out. You and Dave should go guard the gates of the base.
I never said it Top secret info, however I had a TS/SCI clearance how high of clearance have you had? It is all out there for people to research I just am not going to talk about it, because in my view it would be dangerous to do so.
 
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Well, there was a man in Missouri who stood on his front porch with an AK Rifle to keep Antifa off of his property. The authorities left the rioters alone and arrested the man who was trying to protect his property. Can’t remember what he was charged with but it got my attention.
It was an older couple whom one of them was an attorney. They ended up beating it in court.
 
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Unless the military conducts a coup this isn’t going to happen. All the “well regulated militia” in the world aren’t going to be very effective against today’s military.

This is what cracks me up the most. Yeah, good luck to you and your crew of revolutionaries. I'm sure your tacticool'd out AR-15s are a match for tactical drones.
Not saying that anything will happen. but you all are clueless about the tactics of guerilla warfare that was used by the viet cong, taliban, the french resistance, those in the warsaw ghetto, and even right in WV the bushwhackers during the civil war who happened to be confederate sympathizers that kept the union army from effectively occupying WV. I'm a former US Marine and a war history buff.

I know many people talk all kind of chit on the internet about how tough they are and how they'll take up arms. I sincerely doubt anything will happen long term. I don't care what side of the political fence you may be on, but 99% of the people couldn't stomach or has the balls for a long term so called civil war insurgency.
 
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Won't give details on here but most drones are controlled from one base and it would not be difficult to over run, have been there a number of times. Won't comment any more on the issue.
The big ones maybe, but many smaller drones with some firepower can be operated at the infantry squad level.
 

Mitch D.

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This is what cracks me up the most. Yeah, good luck to you and your crew of revolutionaries. I'm sure your tacticool'd out AR-15s are a match for tactical drones.
..and those farmers were no match for the British, were they?

Good luck to you on the Good Ship Lollipop. No one will ever harm you there.
 
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JWG66

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It was an older couple whom one of them was an attorney. They ended up beating it in court.
My point is our legal system was used as a weapon against a citizen that was with in his rights to be keeping rioters off his property.

Other instances are Mike Flynn and Rob McDonnell. Both ended up getting off legally but we’re financially broke as a result of this tactic from the Dem playbook. Romney was accused of not paying his taxes late in his presidential campaign. Wasn’t true but it cost him votes in the election. Republicans have not learned to fight.
 

dave

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Glad you won’t comment any more on the issue. Wouldn’t want any top secret information getting out. You and Dave should go guard the gates of the base.
If I am guarding it against mental giants like you I would just tie a pork chop to a truck fender and drive away when you stop to eat.
 

Raven Shaddock

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..and those farmers were no match for the British, were they?

Good luck to you on the Good Ship Lollipop. No one will ever harm you there.
Why do people automatically assume whose side the military would be on in the event of such a scenario?

Pretty pompous ... and ignorant.

Based on the current climate in certainly seems the military brass would lean one side and the actual soldiers would sway the other. Either way, the military would be fractured and you best believe enemies of America would waste little time seizing the opportunity.

Nobody wins in that scenario and something tells me there wouldn't be a lot of posts on the Blue Lot that day.
 

Mountaineer Gooch

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I never said it Top secret info, however I had a TS/SCI clearance how high of clearance have you had? It is all out there for people to research I just am not going to talk about it, because in my view it would be dangerous to do so.
Do you have a poly, too ?? I bet not….

A lot of people have TS/SCI Clearance but no other accompanying skills to make them marketable for legit job roles so they go to social media to spew banter and rabble rouse the masses.
 

JohnV35

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Exactly what the sheep would say to the coyotes.

The guy told a story that happened to him in real life and that is your response? Be better.
Coyote is a great analogy. Like the cartoon one that falls for anything.

there have also been a few statements made that make me question if the story happened in real life or in Lala land….
 
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winwvu

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The more I read this thread, the more it validates my not saving for retirement. I just hope it gets here before I'm down to a can of Alpo a day.
 

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Why do people automatically assume whose side the military would be on in the event of such a scenario?

Pretty pompous ... and ignorant.

Based on the current climate in certainly seems the military brass would lean one side and the actual soldiers would sway the other. Either way, the military would be fractured and you best believe enemies of America would waste little time seizing the opportunity.

Nobody wins in that scenario and something tells me there wouldn't be a lot of posts on the Blue Lot that day.

Yeah.

So back in the non-wacko, regular person world. The vast majority of people don't want a Civil War. And certainly not to participate in one. The military wouldn't back a "side" in any sad, American version of The Troubles. They would protect US interests against any group of idiots that want to be violent without regard to their political viewpoints.

WTF is wrong with you people? A loud minority of political extremists fantasizing about a Civil War that isn't happening. Go outside and talk to regular people.
 

Gunny46

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Not saying that anything will happen. but you all are clueless about the tactics of guerilla warfare that was used by the viet cong, taliban, the french resistance, those in the warsaw ghetto, and even right in WV the bushwhackers during the civil war who happened to be confederate sympathizers that kept the union army from effectively occupying WV. I'm a former US Marine and a war history buff.

I know many people talk all kind of chit on the internet about how tough they are and how they'll take up arms. I sincerely doubt anything will happen long term. I don't care what side of the political fence you may be on, but 99% of the people couldn't stomach or has the balls for a long term so called civil war insurgency.

Correct. But it won't stop far left groups and Anarchist from trying. There's a global history of that. In the past couple of years you had Antifa traveling to the Middle East and fighting with terrorist groups PKK/YPG then returning home.
 
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rog1187

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Yeah.

So back in the non-wacko, regular person world. The vast majority of people don't want a Civil War. And certainly not to participate in one. The military wouldn't back a "side" in any sad, American version of The Troubles. They would protect US interests against any group of idiots that want to be violent without regard to their political viewpoints.

WTF is wrong with you people? A loud minority of political extremists fantasizing about a Civil War that isn't happening. Go outside and talk to regular people.
Doubt you would see any type of force-on-force thing...maybe small 'attacks' on locations of interest and not people. You might see political leaders getting whacked (or attempts) though.
 

rog1187

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Definitely agree and let's hope the Jan 6 commission gets the message.
I don't have a whole lot of faith in that. I think they will look to demonize a group of people and further spread the divide.
 

dave

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Doubt you would see any type of force-on-force thing...maybe small 'attacks' on locations of interest and not people. You might see political leaders getting whacked (or attempts) though.
We already have seen some of this. I have to chuckle when I see people suggest that nobody wants a civil war when we have had organized and sometime armed militias organized in cities confronting authorities and in a few cases violently.
 

dave

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I don't have a whole lot of faith in that. I think they will look to demonize a group of people and further spread the divide.
Well of course but I am making a subtle point here that all of this civil war talk is not just militia types. We have a civil war ongoing in the country now but it is mostly non violent right now. Hearts and minds isn't just for foreign nation building.
 

SoCo

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Yeah.

So back in the non-wacko, regular person world. The vast majority of people don't want a Civil War. And certainly not to participate in one. The military wouldn't back a "side" in any sad, American version of The Troubles. They would protect US interests against any group of idiots that want to be violent without regard to their political viewpoints.

WTF is wrong with you people? A loud minority of political extremists fantasizing about a Civil War that isn't happening. Go outside and talk to regular people.
That number is so small you could safely say "no one" wants a civil war.

My question is what constitutes a civil war? Obviously missiles flown into buildings suffices. But at what point does a riot/political/social protest become elevated to that level? Occupying government buildings? Burning them? Murdering government officials? Assaulting, shooting and/or throwing deadly items at them? Occupying city blocks free from government interference and fighting anyone who stands in their way?

All that happened almost nightly in the summer of 2020, all organized under the same cause and in support of the same group.

So when does civil unrest become a civil war? I'm reminded of the primary rule of international law: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
 

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That number is so small you could safely say "no one" wants a civil war.

My question is what constitutes a civil war? Obviously missiles flown into buildings suffices. But at what point does a riot/political/social protest become elevated to that level? Occupying government buildings? Burning them? Murdering government officials? Assaulting, shooting and/or throwing deadly items at them? Occupying city blocks free from government interference and fighting anyone who stands in their way?

All that happened almost nightly in the summer of 2020, all organized under the same cause and in support of the same group.

So when does civil unrest become a civil war? I'm reminded of the primary rule of international law: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
We are in a civil cold war as we speak. People talk a big game when they are not actually being shot at or hunted but as you say, the number of people willing to go to a week without fast food or TV is so small as to rule out anything approaching a civil war from actually happening.
 

JWG66

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Doubt you would see any type of force-on-force thing...maybe small 'attacks' on locations of interest and not people. You might see political leaders getting whacked (or attempts) though.
Must admit, I wondered if the judge in the Flynn case put a target on himself when he refused to follow Barr’s direction to drop the case. Far right groups could take serious exception to something like that.
 

Gunny46

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Must admit, I wondered if the judge in the Flynn case put a target on himself when he refused to follow Barr’s direction to drop the case. Far right groups could take serious exception to something like that.

There are not that many "far right" groups in the United States The ones that do exist could care less about Flynn or Trump. Both of those men were registered Democrats the majority of their life. The majority of the problem is far left groups and a few Anarchist groups who have the same goal. Destroy our Government so they can replace it.
 

Raven Shaddock

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Yeah.

So back in the non-wacko, regular person world. The vast majority of people don't want a Civil War. And certainly not to participate in one. The military wouldn't back a "side" in any sad, American version of The Troubles. They would protect US interests against any group of idiots that want to be violent without regard to their political viewpoints.

WTF is wrong with you people? A loud minority of political extremists fantasizing about a Civil War that isn't happening. Go outside and talk to regular people.
Who said there was gonna be a Civil War?

Show me where I said that.

Link it.

With that canard debunked because I don't suspect you can find a link (even though the site's Search Feature goes back years), what I HAVE said is this country (and world) will eventually be staring at something just a tad more chaotic than some domestic conflict ... or global conflict for that matter.

Yeah ... just a tad.

And the "political" reference from you is just more of the same misinformed blather. I was referring to the Book of Jeremiah ... not American politics.

Of the two of us, YOU are clearly the political one.
 

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Won't give details on here but most drones are controlled from one base and it would not be difficult to over run, have been there a number of times. Won't comment any more on the issue.
You’re factually incorrect on the first part of this. Creech is where the strategic drones (Preds and Reapers) are flown. Tactical drones are not flown from there.

The conversation as a whole is nuts to discuss. We may have some very small factions at the extremities wanting a fight, but the overwhelming majority of folks are gonna be like me and let the crazies kill each other off and watch it on TV.
 

WVUPharm2007

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Who said there was gonna be a Civil War?

Show me where I said that.

Link it.

With that canard debunked because I don't suspect you can find a link (even though the site's Search Feature goes back years), what I HAVE said is this country (and world) will eventually be staring at something just a tad more chaotic than some domestic conflict ... or global conflict for that matter.

Yeah ... just a tad.

And the "political" reference from you is just more of the same misinformed blather. I was referring to the Book of Jeremiah ... not American politics.

Of the two of us, YOU are clearly the political one.
Bro, you're the one blathering on about which "side" the military would be on. What "sides" are you talking about then?

Half the time I think you are an elaborate troll because nobody can possibly be this insane. But no troll can possibly be this dedicated to their craft.
 

Raven Shaddock

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Bro, you're the one blathering on about which "side" the military would be on. What "sides" are you talking about then?

Half the time I think you are an elaborate troll because nobody can possibly be this insane. But no troll can possibly be this dedicated to their craft.
 

WVUPharm2007

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Exactly. All you can do is meme.

Tell us exactly what you are talking about. You keep alluding towards how the country is careening towards some nebulous black swan event.

Is the world ending? Are the gods/God of your choice coming to smite us all? Is it global warming? Aliens? Thankfully you've apparently eliminated a civil war for us, which is appreciated.
 

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The conversation as a whole is nuts to discuss. We may have some very small factions at the extremities wanting a fight, but the overwhelming majority of folks are gonna be like me and let the crazies kill each other off and watch it on TV.
Not entirely nuts. Some of those crazies actually hold considerable power and are trying to consolidate more.