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Gunny46

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I knew from the very beginning the Russia thing was a hoax. Putin owned the Clintons, what was it the Clinton foundation got $145M after Hillary approved the Uranium one deal. Putin also paid Bill $500K to come to Russia to give a speech. Putin didn't want a tough guy like Trump in the White House.

I also believed Putin had access to all of her emails that was on the illegal server, probably along with China, Iran and North Korea. Don't remember how many emails but Hillary destroy 10,000s email and took a hammer to the phone and computer for a reason. There was probably more than enough to blackmail her any time he wanted, and if he truly wanted Trump in office it would be drip, drip and more drip.

What pisses me off more that anything is while Comey was making excuses for Hillary and all the TS/SCI information she comprised his FBI sent a sailor to prison for 5 years for having some pics on his phone of a Nuke sub engine room that was only classified as secret. Total BS.
Don’t forget, she destroyed those after she was ordered to turn them over.

Her having a private server and sending classified information was highly illegal. At a minimum she should have been charged and plead guilty with a slap on the wrist. In a real world with equal justice she should have gotten alot worse. Her being a former First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State shouldn't have been the reason they let her off. It actually shows she had enough experience to know better.
 

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The Dunedein

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I guess you must of been a fan of that Q stuff. I posted a link about the Clinton's cheating on their taxes and hardly giving money they collected to the people that actually needed it. I didn't say anything about the Clintons running a pedo ring. Australia kicked the Clinton Foundation out of their country. The Foundation is currently under investigation here. However if Garland won't allow them to be charged then we don't have equal justice. Instead of claiming you lean left and right just admit you're Anti-Trump and you don't mind seeing the Justice System abused to take out a political enemy.
Gummy, my post was a discussion of my perception of common tropes of both parties, and an expression of my frustration with the repeated whining by both parties about matters they don't pursue criminally even though they scream about illegal acts.

i respect your right to disagree with what i say, and usually find well-reasoned, non-prejorative discussion on here to be entertaining, but the fact that you felt the need to twist it to portray it as a one-sided commentary on my part is disappointing and unfortunate. And a misstatement of what i posted. You don't need to misstate what i say to make a valid point yourself.
 

Gunny46

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Gummy, my post was a discussion of my perception of common tropes of both parties, and an expression of my frustration with the repeated whining by both parties about matters they don't pursue criminally even though they scream about illegal acts.

i respect your right to disagree with what i say, and usually find well-reasoned, non-prejorative discussion on here to be entertaining, but the fact that you felt the need to twist it to portray it as a one-sided commentary on my part is disappointing and unfortunate. And a misstatement of what i posted. You don't need to misstate what i say to make a valid point yourself.

You tried to link everyone who thinks the Clintons and the Biden family are into shady business dealings to Q. There are ongoing investigations happening on both. If Garland protects them then we do not have equal justice under law. If you don't believe the way they have gone after Trump is political then you are not a lawyer or at least an ethical one. Like I said above you should just say you don't want Trump to run again and you don't mind the system being abused to accomplish that. Getting to rub into his supporters face is a bonus.
 

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You tried to link everyone who thinks the Clintons and the Biden family are into shady business dealings to Q. There are ongoing investigations happening on both. If Garland protects them then we do not have equal justice under law. If you don't believe the way they have gone after Trump is political then you are not a lawyer or at least an ethical one. Like I said above you should just say you don't want Trump to run again and you don't mind the system being abused to accomplish that. Getting to rub into his supporters face is a bonus.
Trump haters are awesome to mock because they hate trump way more than I need Trump and thry are so easy to *** with.
 

Gunny46

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Trump haters are awesome to mock because they hate trump way more than I need Trump and thry are so easy to *** with.

If Trump had actually committed serious crimes against our country I would be the first one to say he needs to be held accountable. All I have seen is political lawyers perverting the Justice System to take out a political opponent. Both Democrats and Republicans involved in that while simultaneously allowing their allies to skate free. If that continues the DOJ will do more to divide this country than Anarchist, Militias, Antifa, and foreign adversaries ever dreamed of.
 

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Trump haters are awesome to mock because they hate trump way more than I need Trump and thry are so easy to *** with.

I laughed at the Gummy reference. This Devildog is blessed with a great dental plan and wishes other Americans were too. Gunny is a term of endearment given by Junior Marines who felt the Gunnery Sergeant had their back while accomplishing the mission. It's their way of saying you're not a mindless robot. Apparently mocking Veterans and military traditions is on the table if it helps you score political points.
 

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I laughed at the Gummy reference. This Devildog is blessed with a great dental plan and wishes other Americans were too. Gunny is a term of endearment given by Junior Marines who felt the Gunnery Sergeant had their back while accomplishing the mission. It's their way of saying you're not a mindless robot. Apparently mocking Veterans and military traditions is on the table if it helps you score political points.
I’m giving the benefit that it was a typo or autocorrect.
 

dave

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If Trump had actually committed serious crimes against our country I would be the first one to say he needs to be held accountable. All I have seen is political lawyers perverting the Justice System to take out a political opponent. Both Democrats and Republicans involved in that while simultaneously allowing their allies to skate free. If that continues the DOJ will do more to divide this country than Anarchist, Militias, Antifa, and foreign adversaries ever dreamed of.
I agree completely. In fact the government clearly broke the law attempting to frame him for crimes he didnt commit and even though evidence of this abounds one clown has been charged and convicted.
 

The Dunedein

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I laughed at the Gummy reference. This Devildog is blessed with a great dental plan and wishes other Americans were too. Gunny is a term of endearment given by Junior Marines who felt the Gunnery Sergeant had their back while accomplishing the mission. It's their way of saying you're not a mindless robot. Apparently mocking Veterans and military traditions is on the table if it helps you score political points.
i am well aware of the meaning. Ddog showed a lot more insight on that post than you did. My father was a combat veteran, and a great man. My great-grandfather was a high-ranking Union officer in the Civil War, who served in combat. My father-in-law was a combat veteran. Etc. When you try to demonize me to gain what you think is an edge by saying i don't respect veterans, you're just spouting off, and you're wrong. Make your argument points, and skip the personality stuff. That's stronger. You have some valid points at times, but you weaken them when you digress into the personality stuff.

Having a fun weekend getting in some target practice and skeet shooting with some Michigan locals and western friends. Even had a helicopter that just happened to do a fly-over out here in the middle of nowhere.

As you wind yourself up to chastise what you consider my one-sided posts, i have an assignment for you. Go back and re-read Post #25 and Post #43. Note the multiple references to both parties. Then locate a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "both." Should you choose to still bleat about one-sidedness, so be it.
 

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i am well aware of the meaning. Ddog showed a lot more insight on that post than you did. My father was a combat veteran, and a great man. My great-grandfather was a high-ranking Union officer in the Civil War, who served in combat. My father-in-law was a combat veteran. Etc. When you try to demonize me to gain what you think is an edge by saying i don't respect veterans, you're just spouting off, and you're wrong. Make your argument points, and skip the personality stuff. That's stronger. You have some valid points at times, but you weaken them when you digress into the personality stuff.

Having a fun weekend getting in some target practice and skeet shooting with some Michigan locals and western friends. Even had a helicopter that just happened to do a fly-over out here in the middle of nowhere.

As you wind yourself up to chastise what you consider my one-sided posts, i have an assignment for you. Go back and re-read Post #25 and Post #43. Note the multiple references to both parties. Then locate a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "both." Should you choose to still bleat about one-sidedness, so be it.

Look you dishonest turd. You brought the Q stuff up and made the personal attack. Grow some balls and just admit you don't want Trump to run again and you have no problem with the Justice System being perverted to go after him and his supporters. You're not getting the old Republican Party back. The Republicans will never win a major election again without Trump supporters. That leaves you with the New Democrat Party. If you like the direction they are taking you then keep voting for them and whining about Trump.

To be clear I have valid points the MAJORITY of the time. The fact it destroys your narrative isn't my problem. I can also do math. I also have never been uncivil with anyone who didn't start the crap first. Me and @WVU82 @dave @30CAT @wvu2007 @roadtrasheer @atlkvb don't agree on everything. Point out where we called each other names or didn't treat each other with respect.
 
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dave

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i am well aware of the meaning. Ddog showed a lot more insight on that post than you did. My father was a combat veteran, and a great man. My great-grandfather was a high-ranking Union officer in the Civil War, who served in combat. My father-in-law was a combat veteran. Etc. When you try to demonize me to gain what you think is an edge by saying i don't respect veterans, you're just spouting off, and you're wrong. Make your argument points, and skip the personality stuff. That's stronger. You have some valid points at times, but you weaken them when you digress into the personality stuff.

Having a fun weekend getting in some target practice and skeet shooting with some Michigan locals and western friends. Even had a helicopter that just happened to do a fly-over out here in the middle of nowhere.

As you wind yourself up to chastise what you consider my one-sided posts, i have an assignment for you. Go back and re-read Post #25 and Post #43. Note the multiple references to both parties. Then locate a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "both." Should you choose to still bleat about one-sidedness, so be it.
I sniffed your dumb *** out long ago. Your sad attempt to appear to be in the middle are just weak.
 

The Dunedein

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Look you dishonest turd. You brought the Q stuff up and made the personal attack. Grow some balls and just admit you don't want Trump to run again and you have no problem with the Justice System being perverted to go after him and his supporters. You're not getting the old Republican Party back. The Republicans will never win a major election again without Trump supporters. That leaves you with the New Democrat Party. If you like the direction they are taking you then keep voting for them and whining about Trump.

To be clear I have valid points the MAJORITY of the time. The fact it destroys your narrative isn't my problem. I can also do math. I also have never been uncivil with anyone who didn't start the crap first. Me and @WVU82 @dave @30CAT @wvu2007 @roadtrasheer @atlkvb don't agree on everything. Point out where we called each other names or didn't treat each other with respect.
Been off-grid for several days. My perception of the Repub party is strong defense, free enterprise, less government interference in our lives, a solid work ethic, respect for the Constitution and the separate branches of government, an even opportunity for anyone willing to work, fiscal responsibility, and lower taxes.

Yes, you do make some valid points. But they are diminished when you throw in personal attacks on others. It's a compliment, Gunny46, to tell you that you don't need the personal attacks to make your points. You can let your arguments stand on their own.
 

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Five ***** years and this is what they have........laughable.....and Trump and his family members are NOT facing any charges.
Yet. Same play from their Michael Flynn playbook. Pressure and bankrupt the underlings and try to conjure up charges against Trump. Knew this would happen if Biden got into office.
 

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You notice how they want to label everyone who read the QPUB a conspiracy nutjob. I didn't mention any conspiracy theories. I stated fact that Hunter Biden and the Clintons were involved in shady business practices and the DOJ obviously agreed because they opened up investigations on both. Still waiting for equal justice that anyone being honest can see is not happening.

Now to put the Q stuff to bed for good. The Democrats don't get to have it both ways. I know damn well they were following the Q drops too. I warned everyone is was a Pysop and they should do their own research and not to rely on others to do it for them. Why ? Because Democrat operatives were putting out wild *** conspiracy theories and working as controlled opposition. I pointed that some of the information on the QPUB was absolutely legit. How do I know that ? Because the information came from the DOD, DOJ, FBI, ATF, U.S. Marshals, DEA, Local government official websites, etc. So before calling people conspiracy theory nutjobs maybe they should ask themselves do they believe. .gov was in on it the whole time. Of course not that's insane. Some of the information was definitely conspiracy theory stuff that had more theroy than conspiracy. For the Democrats to pretend they weren't following it is laughable and dishonest. I could see MSM and posters on here running counter narrative operations on information dropped but would pretend they weren't following it.
Mouth breather.
 

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Been off-grid for several days. My perception of the Repub party is strong defense, free enterprise, less government interference in our lives, a solid work ethic, respect for the Constitution and the separate branches of government, an even opportunity for anyone willing to work, fiscal responsibility, and lower taxes.

Yes, you do make some valid points. But they are diminished when you throw in personal attacks on others. It's a compliment, Gunny46, to tell you that you don't need the personal attacks to make your points. You can let your arguments stand on their own.
Discussing this w/ the Trump cucks on here is pointless. You can't be Republican unless you swallow every bit of the great leader's garbage. To there there are no Reps and Dems...its just Trump versus the world.
 

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Discussing this w/ the Trump cucks on here is pointless. You can't be Republican unless you swallow every bit of the great leader's garbage. To there there are no Reps and Dems...its just Trump versus the world.
 

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Is that what you look like when you get on bended knee and give your supreme leader the open mouth salute?
Man, 6 months from him no longer being President and you’re still incapable of letting him go. It’s hilarious.
 

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Mouth breather.
Yes that's what I call people like you who never have anything of vaule to add to the conversation. Now tighten your Pro-Tec helmet and clean the drool off of your keyboard.
 
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Been off-grid for several days. My perception of the Repub party is strong defense, free enterprise, less government interference in our lives, a solid work ethic, respect for the Constitution and the separate branches of government, an even opportunity for anyone willing to work, fiscal responsibility, and lower taxes.

Yes, you do make some valid points. But they are diminished when you throw in personal attacks on others. It's a compliment, Gunny46, to tell you that you don't need the personal attacks to make your points. You can let your arguments stand on their own.
I know the canned response on people's perception of what the Republican Party has been. I also know the canned response on what the perception of what people believed what the Democrat Party use to stand for. Facts show that has changed. Do you like the direction it's headed ?

Now when your tribe stops with the personal attacks and playing stupid games to control the narrative. Then I will stop using your playbook. Until then stop crying about not getting to control the narrative. Me and @Brushy Bill @lenny4wvu don't always agree. Yet we treat each other with respect. Me @WVU80ate @nvEERs have had knockdown drag out arguments. Yet we still like each others post when we find common ground. I respect that because they don't hold grudges and act like little bi*ches about it. Your tribe wants everyone else to pitch under hand toss while you guys roll out Randy Johnson. No thanks ! You get treated the same way you have treated others. If you want respect you give it. No more playing like Mitt Romney. That has changed for the majority of the Republican Party and it's a good thing.
 
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Gunny46

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Man, 6 months from him no longer being President and you’re still incapable of letting him go. It’s hilarious.

The Bill Kristol left overs of the old Republican Party are mad Trump might run again. You have said you hope DeSantis wins. I can respect that. However if Trump wins the nomination I'm confident you would vote for him. The crap really is this simple. By not holding your nose and making that vote. You are voting for the New Democrat Party and for more of what we have seen the last 6 months. Anyone who tries to convince others to do otherwise are really voting for Harris anyways and are controlled opposition.
 

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The Bill Kristol left overs of the old Republican Party are mad Trump might run again. You have said you hope DeSantis wins. I can respect that. However if Trump wins the nomination I'm confident you would vote for him. The crap really is this simple. By not holding your nose and making that vote. You are voting for the New Democrat Party and for more of what we have seen the last 6 months. Anyone who tries to convince others to do otherwise are really voting for Harris anyways and are controlled opposition.
Oh, I’d vote for Trump in a heartbeat again, but I prefer DeSantis. I think he’d be a more effective Trump.
 

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Oh, I’d vote for Trump in a heartbeat again, but I prefer DeSantis. I think he’d be a more effective Trump.
I think I remember you saying in 2016 you filled in Ronald Reagan. However Trump won you over by his policies. If Trump does indeed run again I hope he picks DeSantis. DeSantis is very effective and the polices are pretty much identical on the important stuff. I would ask people to hold their nose and vote for Trump if he wins the nomination. Especially in battle ground States. A protest vote there or a vote for a Libertarian is a vote for the New Democrat Party. Unfortunately I'm batting 1000% on my predictions of whose really running it and what their goals are. IRL I was hoping to be wrong on 70% of it.
 

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I think I remember you saying in 2016 you filled in Ronald Reagan. However Trump won you over by his policies. If Trump does indeed run again I hope he picks DeSantis. DeSantis is very effective and the polices are pretty much identical on the important stuff. I would ask people to hold their nose and vote for Trump if he wins the nomination. Especially in battle ground States. A protest vote there or a vote for a Libertarian is a vote for the New Democrat Party. Unfortunately I'm batting 1000% on my predictions of whose really running it and what their goals are. IRL I was hoping to be wrong on 70% of it.
You’re correct, that’s exactly what I did in 16. I assumed Trump was going to be a trainwreck and his policy initiatives actually surprised me. Definitely won me over. I’d say the left’s behavior also acted as a kick in the back to go towards him. Once I figured out (early on) that the Russian thing was ******** and the lengths the Dems went towards spying on opposition campaigns, I was and will forever be done with them.
 
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