Here's today's gem from Virginia

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the local LGBTQ (rstuv....)......is raising hell because one local high school still has their graduates dress in different colored robes...it was a big story in the Staunton misleader. All one needs to know about it is that it is owned by Gannett and usa today........when in the hell did dressing in different colored graduation robes become cause for liberals to cry about?..........LGBTQ......Let's Get Biden To Quit
 

MountaineerWV

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I'm so sick of all this bullsh!t. If you were born male, and are in high school/college, I don't care if you "identify" as anything else, you are limited to the extracurricular activities as designed by the genders. People have been having sex changes for decades, maybe centuries. It's not until recently they are referring to it as "gender identity". Again, I'm a liberal, and I stand for their individual rights to identify as ANYTHING they want, but that doesn't mean to change everyone else's way of life along the way. Where will it stop?
 

polar80

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the local LGBTQ (rstuv....)......is raising hell because one local high school still has their graduates dress in different colored robes...it was a big story in the Staunton misleader. All one needs to know about it is that it is owned by Gannett and usa today........when in the hell did dressing in different colored graduation robes become cause for liberals to cry about?..........LGBTQ......Let's Get Biden To Quit
Gotta be Staunton High School? DNR here is becoming a little more woke, since the outfit from Wheeling bought out the Byrd family. Libs will/can find anything to ***** about!!
 

polar80

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I'm so sick of all this bullsh!t. If you were born male, and are in high school/college, I don't care if you "identify" as anything else, you are limited to the extracurricular activities as designed by the genders. People have been having sex changes for decades, maybe centuries. It's not until recently they are referring to it as "gender identity". Again, I'm a liberal, and I stand for their individual rights to identify as ANYTHING they want, but that doesn't mean to change everyone else's way of life along the way. Where will it stop?
This conservative says Outstanding post!!
 

Gunny46

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I'm so sick of all this bullsh!t. If you were born male, and are in high school/college, I don't care if you "identify" as anything else, you are limited to the extracurricular activities as designed by the genders. People have been having sex changes for decades, maybe centuries. It's not until recently they are referring to it as "gender identity". Again, I'm a liberal, and I stand for their individual rights to identify as ANYTHING they want, but that doesn't mean to change everyone else's way of life along the way. Where will it stop?
It will not stop until more classic liberals stand up and say what you just said. Radical Marxist goals are for everyone to have to change their way of life. Not for real justice but to sow division.
 

MountaineerWV

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It will not stop until more classic liberals stand up and say what you just said. Radical Marxist goals are for everyone to have to change their way of life. Not for real justice but to sow division.
Classic liberal...hmmm.....I could go for that title....I've been referring to myself as a "traditional" liberal. But your title makes it sound more fancy. [thumbsup]
 
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Gotta be Staunton High School? DNR here is becoming a little more woke, since the outfit from Wheeling bought out the Byrd family. Libs will/can find anything to ***** about!!
no....fort defiance...and remember they still call themselves "Indians"............my cherokee blood is boiling[banana]
 
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I'm so sick of all this bullsh!t. If you were born male, and are in high school/college, I don't care if you "identify" as anything else, you are limited to the extracurricular activities as designed by the genders. People have been having sex changes for decades, maybe centuries. It's not until recently they are referring to it as "gender identity". Again, I'm a liberal, and I stand for their individual rights to identify as ANYTHING they want, but that doesn't mean to change everyone else's way of life along the way. Where will it stop?
preach my brother......I don't care what someone chooses to identify as but don't jam it down my throat and don't criticize me if disagree with you...the local lgbtq's here want everything handed to them
 
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I'm so sick of all this bullsh!t. If you were born male, and are in high school/college, I don't care if you "identify" as anything else, you are limited to the extracurricular activities as designed by the genders. People have been having sex changes for decades, maybe centuries. It's not until recently they are referring to it as "gender identity". Again, I'm a liberal, and I stand for their individual rights to identify as ANYTHING they want, but that doesn't mean to change everyone else's way of life along the way. Where will it stop?
but you are an INTELLIGENT liberal.......and I don;t usually use those words together...but I know you...and I really think you lean more libertarian:smiley:
 
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Gotta be Staunton High School? DNR here is becoming a little more woke, since the outfit from Wheeling bought out the Byrd family. Libs will/can find anything to ***** about!!
I used to like to read the harrisonburg paper....looks like they are going the way of the misleader
 

Gunny46

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Classic liberal...hmmm.....I could go for that title....I've been referring to myself as a "traditional" liberal. But your title makes it sound more fancy. [thumbsup]
I have said several times on here people shouldn't use the term liberal as a negative. This battle is not about Conservatives vs liberals. Republicans vs Democrats. Libertarians vs Government overreach. It's the Constitutional Republic vs Neo-Marxist and Communist. We can resume our regularly scheduled infighting once we deal with that.

On another note you come across in your debating more like the below defintion than a Neo-Marxist. Disclaimer is I reserve the right to change my mind if you post some Maoist garbage. ;)

Classical liberalism was the political philosophy of the Founding Fathers. It permeates the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and many other documents produced by the people who created the American system of government. Many emancipationists who opposed slavery were essentially classical liberals, as were the suffragettes, who fought for equal rights for women. 1

Basically, classical liberalism is based on a belief in liberty. Even today, one of the clearest statements of this philosophy is found in the Declaration of Independence. In 1776, most people believed that rights came from government. People thought they had only such rights as government elected to give them. But following British philosopher John Locke, Jefferson argued that it’s the other way around. People have rights apart from government, as part of their nature. Further, people can both form governments and dissolve them. The only legitimate purpose of government is to protect these rights.

The 19th century was the century of classical liberalism. Partly for that reason it was also the century of ever-increasing economic and political liberty, relative international peace, relative price stability and unprecedented economic growth. By contrast, the 20th century was the century that rejected classical liberalism. Partly for that reason, it was the century of dictatorship, depression and war. Nearly 265 million people were killed by their own governments (in addition to all the deaths from wars!) in the 20th century – more than in any previous century and possibly more than in all previous centuries combined. 2

All forms of collectivism in the 20th century rejected the classical liberal notion of rights and all asserted in their own way that need is a claim. For the communists, the needs of the class (proletariat) were a claim against every individual. For the Nazis, the needs of the race were a claim. For fascists (Italian-style) and for architects of the welfare state, the needs of society as a whole were a claim. Since in all these systems the state is the personification of the class, the race, society as a whole, etc., all these ideologies imply that, to one degree or another, individuals have an obligation to live for the state.

Yet, the ideas of liberty survived. Indeed, almost everything that is good about modern liberalism (mainly its defense of civil liberties) comes from classical liberalism. And almost everything that is good about modern conservatism (mainly its defense of economic liberties) also comes from classical liberalism.
 

Bucktown Brown

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I have said several times on here people shouldn't use the term liberal as a negative. This battle is not about Conservatives vs liberals. Republicans vs Democrats. Libertarians vs Government overreach. It's the Constitutional Republic vs Neo-Marxist and Communist. We can resume our regularly scheduled infighting once we deal with that.

On another note you come across in your debating more like the below defintion than a Neo-Marxist. Disclaimer is I reserve the right to change my mind if you post some Maoist garbage. ;)

Classical liberalism was the political philosophy of the Founding Fathers. It permeates the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and many other documents produced by the people who created the American system of government. Many emancipationists who opposed slavery were essentially classical liberals, as were the suffragettes, who fought for equal rights for women. 1

Basically, classical liberalism is based on a belief in liberty. Even today, one of the clearest statements of this philosophy is found in the Declaration of Independence. In 1776, most people believed that rights came from government. People thought they had only such rights as government elected to give them. But following British philosopher John Locke, Jefferson argued that it’s the other way around. People have rights apart from government, as part of their nature. Further, people can both form governments and dissolve them. The only legitimate purpose of government is to protect these rights.

The 19th century was the century of classical liberalism. Partly for that reason it was also the century of ever-increasing economic and political liberty, relative international peace, relative price stability and unprecedented economic growth. By contrast, the 20th century was the century that rejected classical liberalism. Partly for that reason, it was the century of dictatorship, depression and war. Nearly 265 million people were killed by their own governments (in addition to all the deaths from wars!) in the 20th century – more than in any previous century and possibly more than in all previous centuries combined. 2

All forms of collectivism in the 20th century rejected the classical liberal notion of rights and all asserted in their own way that need is a claim. For the communists, the needs of the class (proletariat) were a claim against every individual. For the Nazis, the needs of the race were a claim. For fascists (Italian-style) and for architects of the welfare state, the needs of society as a whole were a claim. Since in all these systems the state is the personification of the class, the race, society as a whole, etc., all these ideologies imply that, to one degree or another, individuals have an obligation to live for the state.

Yet, the ideas of liberty survived. Indeed, almost everything that is good about modern liberalism (mainly its defense of civil liberties) comes from classical liberalism. And almost everything that is good about modern conservatism (mainly its defense of economic liberties) also comes from classical liberalism.
yawn
 

polar80

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no....fort defiance...and remember they still call themselves "Indians"............my cherokee blood is boiling[banana]
That blows my mind, I didn't think they were that woke. I can see Harrisonburg High pulling that ****, but not the county schools!
 
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