Is anyone buying this censure ****?

[DvlDog4WVU]

Who cares? It’s a public reprimand. A bit like a letter from the UN, it means Jack and ****. Recall their asses. This is nothing more than trying to appease the Trump people without actually doing anything. It’s a show and nothing more. They’re just trying to play tough without being tough.

It seems the GOP still hasn’t learned. These spineless jackasses need replaced with people who actually care about the constituency’s desires and with the balls to enact them.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

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***** was guilty of insider trading.

He must have made a deal with the Dems in exchange for an impeach vote.

Burr responds to censure: ‘It is truly a sad day for North Carolina Republicans...’

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...rty-votes-to-censure-burr-for-vote-to-convict

 

[The Dunedein]

Who cares? It’s a public reprimand. A bit like a letter from the UN, it means Jack and ****. Recall their asses. This is nothing more than trying to appease the Trump people without actually doing anything. It’s a show and nothing more. They’re just trying to play tough without being tough.

It seems the GOP still hasn’t learned. These spineless jackasses need replaced with people who actually care about the constituency’s desires and with the balls to enact them.

Interesting. For discussion purposes of this thread, put aside for a second the merits of the vote. One could perceive that it actually took a strong spine to vote to convict, knowing the backlash that was certain to follow from some Trumpers. The Democrats all toed the party line. 43 Republicans toed the party line. There were 7 Senators who had the backbone to cross their party line to vote their conscience. We actually need more politicians, from both parties, willing to do what they believe is right for their country over blind loyalty to their party or one person. That is our best hope to escape the tribalism mentality that currently plagues us. Of course, my opinion counts for jack-squat in the big picture.

 

[Spocker]

Who cares? It’s a public reprimand. A bit like a letter from the UN, it means Jack and ****. Recall their asses. This is nothing more than trying to appease the Trump people without actually doing anything. It’s a show and nothing more. They’re just trying to play tough without being tough.

It seems the GOP still hasn’t learned. These spineless jackasses need replaced with people who actually care about the constituency’s desires and with the balls to enact them.

Agree 100% with your comments.....placing heavy emphasis on SPINELESS.....especially traitor China man Mitch..

 

[Brushy Bill]

If they were serious they'd be setting up recall petitions to remove them from office and replace them.

 

[NYC_Eer]

Who cares? It’s a public reprimand. A bit like a letter from the UN, it means Jack and ****. Recall their asses. This is nothing more than trying to appease the Trump people without actually doing anything. It’s a show and nothing more. They’re just trying to play tough without being tough.

It seems the GOP still hasn’t learned. These spineless jackasses need replaced with people who actually care about the constituency’s desires and with the balls to enact them.

Recall someone for a vote in their right to make? Makes sense. You guys and the cancel culture.

 

[NYC_Eer]

Interesting. For discussion purposes of this thread, put aside for a second the merits of the vote. One could perceive that it actually took a strong spine to vote to convict, knowing the backlash that was certain to follow from some Trumpers. The Democrats all toed the party line. 43 Republicans toed the party line. There were 7 Senators who had the backbone to cross their party line to vote their conscience. We actually need more politicians, from both parties, willing to do what they believe is right for their country over blind loyalty to their party or one person. That is our best hope to escape the tribalism mentality that currently plagues us. Of course, my opinion counts for jack-squat in the big picture.

**** that. Strength! Guns! Winning!

 

[jpoppa]

**** that. Strength! Guns! Winning!

Don’t forget about ur dildos and ***** hats with them rainbow mittens. I’m sure it is fabulous

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Interesting. For discussion purposes of this thread, put aside for a second the merits of the vote. One could perceive that it actually took a strong spine to vote to convict, knowing the backlash that was certain to follow from some Trumpers. The Democrats all toed the party line. 43 Republicans toed the party line. There were 7 Senators who had the backbone to cross their party line to vote their conscience. We actually need more politicians, from both parties, willing to do what they believe is right for their country over blind loyalty to their party or one person. That is our best hope to escape the tribalism mentality that currently plagues us. Of course, my opinion counts for jack-squat in the big picture.

Your position is that they voted their conscience. I disagree with that. People vote certain ways for a variety of reasons. No one who voted to convict, voted their conscience. They voted their emotion or their party. There was no incitement of insurrection. Stop it. As a lawyer, it’s ridiculous to me that you depart from the law to make that assertion.

Take a deeper dive at the individuals who voted to convict. Never Trumpers, people who saw their political futures and grift schemes dashed under Trump and some vulnerable moderates.

The days of compromise are over. After the **** the left has pulled over the last 15 years?Work with them? Nope.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Recall someone for a vote in their right to make? Makes sense. You guys and the cancel culture.

They are elected representatives put in place to enact the will of their constituency. Manchin sure as **** didn’t do that, nor did Romney or Burr.

Most of the 7 were never Trumpers in the vein of the Lincoln cucks. They’ll be gone soon enough.

 

[SoCo]

Interesting. For discussion purposes of this thread, put aside for a second the merits of the vote. One could perceive that it actually took a strong spine to vote to convict, knowing the backlash that was certain to follow from some Trumpers. The Democrats all toed the party line. 43 Republicans toed the party line. There were 7 Senators who had the backbone to cross their party line to vote their conscience. We actually need more politicians, from both parties, willing to do what they believe is right for their country over blind loyalty to their party or one person. That is our best hope to escape the tribalism mentality that currently plagues us. Of course, my opinion counts for jack-squat in the big picture.

To me, it is just the opposite.

It is hard for any nonpartisan and rational person to argue Trump's comments on January 6 incited anyone to act.
1. He stated for them to voice themselves peacefully.
2. Much of this was organized before January 6.
3. The phrase "fight like hell" is not a literal statement about physically fighting and our politicians use it almost daily in the same context President Trump used the phrase.

Most importantly, regardless of where you stand on those 3 facts, at the end of the day the House's evidence was doctored and falsified. There is no credible evidence to support a conviction. This would get laughed out of any real Court and the prosecutors sanctioned, if not disbarred. To vote to convict without credible evidence is not voting based on what they believe is right for their country.

Something convinced the 7 Republican Senators to convict. It certainly wasn't the evidence, then what was it? Perhaps they voted in this manner to distance themselves from Trump to appear more moderate and likeable within their own party and to the constituents? In other words, they were acting in their own interests and not what is right for the country.

Business as usual in Washington.....

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

To me, it is just the opposite.

It is hard for any nonpartisan and rational person to argue Trump's comments on January 6 incited anyone to act.
1. He stated for them to voice themselves peacefully.
2. Much of this was organized before January 6.
3. The phrase "fight like hell" is not a literal statement about physically fighting and our politicians use it almost daily in the same context President Trump used the phrase.

Most importantly, regardless of where you stand on those 3 facts, at the end of the day the House's evidence was doctored and falsified. There is no credible evidence to support a conviction. This would get laughed out of any real Court and the prosecutors sanctioned, if not disbarred. To vote to convict without credible evidence is not voting based on what they believe is right for their country.

Something convinced the 7 Republican Senators to convict. It certainly wasn't the evidence, then what was it? Perhaps they voted in this manner to distance themselves from Trump to appear more moderate and likeable within their own party and to the constituents? In other words, they were acting in their own interests and not what is right for the country.

Business as usual in Washington.....

Well said.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Interesting. For discussion purposes of this thread, put aside for a second the merits of the vote. One could perceive that it actually took a strong spine to vote to convict, knowing the backlash that was certain to follow from some Trumpers. The Democrats all toed the party line. 43 Republicans toed the party line. There were 7 Senators who had the backbone to cross their party line to vote their conscience. We actually need more politicians, from both parties, willing to do what they believe is right for their country over blind loyalty to their party or one person. That is our best hope to escape the tribalism mentality that currently plagues us. Of course, my opinion counts for jack-squat in the big picture.

I’d add that it doesn’t take a single iota of backbone to do something for which you know there are no tangible ramifications for. If anything, it’s more a testament to their cowardice for only now standing up to their supposed conscience.

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

I’d add that it doesn’t take a single iota of backbone to do something for which you know there are no tangible ramifications for. If anything, it’s more a testament to their cowardice for only now standing up to their supposed conscience.

These Senators know there is no ramifications back in their state because they hide from Town Halls and actually answering questions from their constituents. They are so shielded from the people of their state that they don’t know what the states best interests are.

I can’t remember the last time Manchin or Capito did a town hall and took questions from both sides and actually mingled with voters in their state.

 

[bornaneer]

The Democrats all toed the party line.

Yes....just like they did IN BOTH impeachments.......in BOTH the House and Senate.

 

[NYC_Eer]

To me, it is just the opposite.

It is hard for any nonpartisan and rational person to argue Trump's comments on January 6 incited anyone to act.
1. He stated for them to voice themselves peacefully.
2. Much of this was organized before January 6.
3. The phrase "fight like hell" is not a literal statement about physically fighting and our politicians use it almost daily in the same context President Trump used the phrase.

Most importantly, regardless of where you stand on those 3 facts, at the end of the day the House's evidence was doctored and falsified. There is no credible evidence to support a conviction. This would get laughed out of any real Court and the prosecutors sanctioned, if not disbarred. To vote to convict without credible evidence is not voting based on what they believe is right for their country.

Something convinced the 7 Republican Senators to convict. It certainly wasn't the evidence, then what was it? Perhaps they voted in this manner to distance themselves from Trump to appear more moderate and likeable within their own party and to the constituents? In other words, they were acting in their own interests and not what is right for the country.

Business as usual in Washington.....

The trial was a joke and was a mistake from the beginning, but Trump obviously partially incited that riot...and it wasn't just his speech that day. It had been 4 years in the making, and more specifically what he's said since Nov.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

The trial was a joke and was a mistake from the beginning, but Trump obviously partially incited that riot...and it wasn't just his speech that day. It had been 4 years in the making, and more specifically what he's said since Nov.

Nonsense.

 

[jpoppa]

The trial was a joke and was a mistake from the beginning, but Trump obviously partially incited that riot...and it wasn't just his speech that day. It had been 4 years in the making, and more specifically what he's said since Nov.

Russian collusion

 

[bornaneer]

The trial was a joke and was a mistake from the beginning, but Trump obviously partially incited that riot...and it wasn't just his speech that day. It had been 4 years in the making, and more specifically what he's said since Nov.

Yes.....both impeachments were a joke.......and the two not guilty outcomes bear that out.

 

[NYC_Eer]

Nonsense.

Nuh uh.

 

[NYC_Eer]

Who cares? It’s a public reprimand. A bit like a letter from the UN, it means Jack and ****. Recall their asses. This is nothing more than trying to appease the Trump people without actually doing anything. It’s a show and nothing more. They’re just trying to play tough without being tough.

It seems the GOP still hasn’t learned. These spineless jackasses need replaced with people who actually care about the constituency’s desires and with the balls to enact them.

Sounds like a bottom that needs a new dominant daddy.

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

Your position is that they voted their conscience. I disagree with that. People vote certain ways for a variety of reasons. No one who voted to convict, voted their conscience. They voted their emotion or their party. There was no incitement of insurrection. Stop it. As a lawyer, it’s ridiculous to me that you depart from the law to make that assertion.

Take a deeper dive at the individuals who voted to convict. Never Trumpers, people who saw their political futures and grift schemes dashed under Trump and some vulnerable moderates.

The days of compromise are over. After the **** the left has pulled over the last 15 years?Work with them? Nope.

I think a good argument can be made that Cassidy had nothing to gain by voting for impeachment. The rest have an angle. Cassidy, if anything, signaled he may not run again. If he does run again he may not make it out of the primary.

 

[Airport]

Recall someone for a vote in their right to make? Makes sense. You guys and the cancel culture.

If the dems had a spine they would have insisted that those in the FBI and everywhere who lied about the first impeachment be prosecuted for trying to overthrow a duly elected President. Instead, they promoted the lie that Trump did not beat Hildabeast, that he colluded with Russia ( the fact that Biden did exactly what they accused Trump of is lost on you liberals) and Steele was fed the stuff from that dyke Fiona Hill. Please tell why Repubs should vote to affirm the conviction when the dems have been part of an insurrection from the moment Trump won the election?

 

[Airport]

I think a good argument can be made that Cassidy had nothing to gain by voting for impeachment. The rest have an angle. Cassidy, if anything, signaled he may not run again. If he does run again he may not make it out of the primary.

I think Burr said the same thing he wasn't running again and I pointed out a long time ago, he was guilty of insider trading. He beat the rap cause DC protects it's own criminals.

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

I think Burr said the same thing he wasn't running again and I pointed out a long time ago, he was guilty of insider trading. He beat the rap cause DC protects it's own criminals.

That's true, but NC is won in the middle. Voting to convict wouldn't hurt him if he did run. Louisiana is won the right.

 

[Airport]

That's true, but NC is won in the middle. Voting to convict wouldn't hurt him if he did run. Louisiana is won the right.

I was just affirming what you said about insider trading. He was guilty. I believe he said he wasn't running that's why Lara Trump is running and somebody else that Madison Cawthorn has backed

 

[SoCo]

The trial was a joke and was a mistake from the beginning, but Trump obviously partially incited that riot...and it wasn't just his speech that day. It had been 4 years in the making, and more specifically what he's said since Nov.

If you are arguing Trump increased the over-the-top rhetoric in Washington, I agree. the rhetoric has been bad for a long time but over the last 2 decades, it has really ramped up. No question Trump escalated it enormously when he burst onto the political scene in 2015, but the Democrats were all too happy to quickly follow suit (as did the Republicans). Now the rhetoric on all sides is out of control. When it spills over violently, they are all to blame regardless of which sides "followers" do it.

If you want to blame only President Trump for that, that's your prerogative. But posters here can link the montages of Democrats (and Republicans) who said the same and worse things to encourage riots over the last 4 years, including last summer. One could easily accuse any number of politicians encouraging the riots last summer to have incited the January 6 mess simply by cheering for and justifying such uprisings (Pelosi's word, not mine) and storming of government buildings. Blaming solely 1 side, or worse only 1 person, for any of this is exactly how we got to where we are now.

 

[30CAT]

Trump obviously partially incited that riot.

Obviously, Trump's words were taken out of context....Whatever the case...

You said nothing when Leftists clearly incited rioting and SUPPORTED the rioting: Rioting still going on to this day. Our Vice President donated to paying the rioters' bails, for crying out loud. But you're cool with that, eh? It was all in the name of Anti-trump, so you're cool with it and try to pretend it didn't happen.

"Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not," -Commie La Harris

"Don’t let up, send emails, make phone calls. There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives. And unfortunately, there's plenty to go around," -Rep. Ayanna Pressley

"Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere." -Rep. Maxine Waters

"I just don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be," -Nancy Pelosi

 

[NYC_Eer]

If the dems had a spine they would have insisted that those in the FBI and everywhere who lied about the first impeachment be prosecuted for trying to overthrow a duly elected President. Instead, they promoted the lie that Trump did not beat Hildabeast, that he colluded with Russia ( the fact that Biden did exactly what they accused Trump of is lost on you liberals) and Steele was fed the stuff from that dyke Fiona Hill. Please tell why Repubs should vote to affirm the conviction when the dems have been part of an insurrection from the moment Trump won the election?

I’m not saying the Reps need to do anything. But this censure BS is silly. It’s nothing but the cancel culture many on here say they hate until their tribe has the opportunity to do the same thing.

 

[NYC_Eer]

If you are arguing Trump increased the over-the-top rhetoric in Washington, I agree. the rhetoric has been bad for a long time but over the last 2 decades, it has really ramped up. No question Trump escalated it enormously when he burst onto the political scene in 2015, but the Democrats were all too happy to quickly follow suit (as did the Republicans). Now the rhetoric on all sides is out of control. When it spills over violently, they are all to blame regardless of which sides "followers" do it.

If you want to blame only President Trump for that, that's your prerogative. But posters here can link the montages of Democrats (and Republicans) who said the same and worse things to encourage riots over the last 4 years, including last summer. One could easily accuse any number of politicians encouraging the riots last summer to have incited the January 6 mess simply by cheering for and justifying such uprisings (Pelosi's word, not mine) and storming of government buildings. Blaming solely 1 side, or worse only 1 person, for any of this is exactly how we got to where we are now.

You can cherry pick comments all you want. I agree Reps haven’t ramped up rhetoric any more than Dems, but Trump and Trumpers surely have...clutching their pearls/guns, playing army, talking about insurrection. That is Trump 100%.

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

Obviously, Trump's words were taken out of context....Whatever the case...

You said nothing when Leftists clearly incited rioting and SUPPORTED the rioting: Rioting still going on to this day. Our Vice President donated to paying the rioters' bails, for crying out loud. But you're cool with that, eh? It was all in the name of Anti-trump, so you're cool with it and try to pretend it didn't happen.

"Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not," -Commie La Harris

"Don’t let up, send emails, make phone calls. There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives. And unfortunately, there's plenty to go around," -Rep. Ayanna Pressley

"Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere." -Rep. Maxine Waters

"I just don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be," -Nancy Pelosi

this rhetoric is the fault of Trump and Trumpers according to the board libtards.

 

[Airport]

I’m not saying the Reps need to do anything. But this censure BS is silly. It’s nothing but the cancel culture many on here say they hate until their tribe has the opportunity to do the same thing.

I think this means the end of their political aspirations in their respective states

 

[SoCo]

You can cherry pick comments all you want. I agree Reps haven’t ramped up rhetoric any more than Dems, but Trump and Trumpers surely have...clutching their pearls/guns, playing army, talking about insurrection. That is Trump 100%.

That's what I said. Trump ramped it up enormously in 2015. Then when the Democrats saw it worked, they ramped up their rhetoric in response. All summer long they encouraged the riots, destruction and the assault of our government officials and destruction. I fail to see how that is any different than President Trump and Trumpers even when they were at their worst.

It wasn't the Trumpers who stormed and held a police station for weeks and caused $2 billion in damage while attacking officers on a nightly basis for months last summer.

 

[NYC_Eer]

I think this means the end of their political aspirations in their respective states

Wouldn’t go that far. I don’t think Trumpers make up more than 50% of Reps. Think it’s more like 33%. It’s very likely there is a vocal minority, but standing up to Orange Man may get him some votes from the other 67%.

 

[NYC_Eer]

That's what I said. Trump ramped it up enormously in 2015. Then when the Democrats saw it worked, they ramped up their rhetoric in response. All summer long they encouraged the riots, destruction and the assault of our government officials and destruction. I fail to see how that is any different than President Trump and Trumpers even when they were at their worst.

It wasn't the Trumpers who stormed and held a police station for weeks and caused $2 billion in damage while attacking officers on a nightly basis for months last summer.

I don’t agree with the rioting, etc. I think the Dems didn’t speak against it as much as they should have, but in no way did they encourage it as much as Trump has encouraged these right wing militia, white supremacists and conspiracy nuts.

 

[GrimReaper82]

Wouldn’t go that far. I don’t think Trumpers make up more than 50% of Reps. Think it’s more like 33%. It’s very likely there is a vocal minority, but standing up to Orange Man may get him some votes from the other 67%.

Lol

 

[Shirley Knott]

Your position is that they voted their conscience. I disagree with that. People vote certain ways for a variety of reasons. No one who voted to convict, voted their conscience. They voted their emotion or their party. There was no incitement of insurrection. Stop it. As a lawyer, it’s ridiculous to me that you depart from the law to make that assertion.

Take a deeper dive at the individuals who voted to convict. Never Trumpers, people who saw their political futures and grift schemes dashed under Trump and some vulnerable moderates.

The days of compromise are over. After the **** the left has pulled over the last 15 years?Work with them? Nope.

Burr was already leaving the senate. NC Repub party is full of RINOs....

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I don’t agree with the rioting, etc. I think the Dems didn’t speak against it as much as they should have, but in no way did they encourage it as much as Trump has encouraged these right wing militia, white supremacists and conspiracy nuts.

VPOTUS was literally bailing out rioters in Minnesota. How do you square that peg?

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

VPOTUS was literally bailing out rioters in Minnesota. How do you square that peg?

don’t forget it was the libtards who stared the Russia hoax and originally started the “Bush did 9/11” conspiracy theory, yet they was to say Trump started the conspiracy theories.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

don’t forget it was the libtards who stared the Russia hoax and originally started the “Bush did 9/11” conspiracy theory, yet they was to say Trump started the conspiracy theories.

Who could forget Fahrenheit 9/11