West Virginia Has Everyone’s Attention. What Does It Really Need? - NYT Article

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CNN is already running pieces basically calling WV/Appalachia the armpit of White Supremacy.

Trust me, this moment in the limelight won't work out well for WV. They will be vilified as "Trump Supporters" who represent everything wrong in America - racist homophobes who deserve to lose their dirty jobs.

When Manchin breaks from Dems, it will because he was scared of his uneducated hillbilly constituents....when he makes a major vote against GOP it will because he is brave and willing to stand against the racists living in dirty, dumb WV.

Media will be running pieces claiming its wrong so much power is resting in a small state - filled mostly with white supremacist who are holding the rest of the country hostage.
 

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CNN is already running pieces basically calling WV/Appalachia the armpit of White Supremacy.

Trust me, this moment in the limelight won't work out well for WV. They will be vilified as "Trump Supporters" who represent everything wrong in America - racist homophobes who deserve to lose their dirty jobs.

When Manchin breaks from Dems, it will because he was scared of his uneducated hillbilly constituents....when he makes a major vote against GOP it will because he is brave and willing to stand against the racists living in dirty, dumb WV.

Media will be running pieces claiming its wrong so much power is resting in a small state - filled mostly with white supremacist who are holding the rest of the country hostage.
Maybe, but that's not what this one was about. I think they make a lot of good points in here that could lead to positive changes.
 

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The article paints an interesting picture and has some valid points about the allocation of resources being more tied to density.

Makes me wonder what would and could happen should the legislature eliminate the state's income tax. Could we see an influx of remote workers to the denser parts of the state, where good broadband is available.
 

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The article paints an interesting picture and has some valid points about the allocation of resources being more tied to density.

Makes me wonder what would and could happen should the legislature eliminate the state's income tax. Could we see an influx of remote workers to the denser parts of the state, where good broadband is available.
I would imagine widespread broadband would be very helpful for a number of reasons...especially remote work. And remote schooling, which hopefully is a think of the past soon.
 

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Did a 3rd grader write this? Nothing in the entire article is worth reading...just more bashing. Those townhomes in Morgantown are $300,000 plus and Morgantown'w housing market is more like Pittsburgh than WV.

Tele-health- that has been going for 15 years...and WVU was in the forefront...it's good, not great and just like everything else...the flip side is that Dr's don't have to live in a rural community to give healthcare.

Like I said last week. WV and other fossil fuel states should add an export tax to any energy that leaves its boarders...NY'ers can pay $10,000 a month for energy and WV and other states can have free gas and electric...How many people will then decide to move WV and telecommute?
 

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Did a 3rd grader write this? Nothing in the entire article is worth reading...just more bashing. Those townhomes in Morgantown are $300,000 plus and Morgantown'w housing market is more like Pittsburgh than WV.

Tele-health- that has been going for 15 years...and WVU was in the forefront...it's good, not great and just like everything else...the flip side is that Dr's don't have to live in a rural community to give healthcare.

Like I said last week. WV and other fossil fuel states should add an export tax to any energy that leaves its boarders...NY'ers can pay $10,000 a month for energy and WV and other states can have free gas and electric...How many people will then decide to move WV and telecommute?
The lady that wrote the article has a BA from Northwestern and a masters from Johns Hopkins.
 

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If Biden actually gave a **** about getting Manchin on board he wouldnt be hammering blue collar jobs and energy jobs like he is...

If Manchin becomes a problem for Dems, he won't be appeased - he will be destroyed.
 

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The Dems answer to make WV better will be to bring kill more energy jobs and bring in more immigrants...bookmark it.

Disagreeing just means you're a white supremacist.
 

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LOL. They were saying positive things about WV's growth, but don't let that get in the way of a good rant.
A few of Bari's comments about your "bible" are as follows:

"Stories are chosen and told in a way to satisfy the narrowest of audiences, rather than to allow a curious public to read about the world and then draw their own conclusions."

"And if, every now and then, she succeeds in getting a piece published that does not explicitly promote progressive causes, it happens only after every line is carefully massaged, negotiated and caveated."

"The paper of record is, more and more, the record of those living in a distant galaxy, one whose concerns are profoundly removed from the lives of most people. This is a galaxy in which, to choose just a few recent examples, the Soviet space program is lauded for its 'diversity'; the doxxing of teenagers in the name of justice is condoned; and the worst caste systems in human history includes the United States alongside Nazi Germany."
 

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The article paints an interesting picture and has some valid points about the allocation of resources being more tied to density.

Makes me wonder what would and could happen should the legislature eliminate the state's income tax. Could we see an influx of remote workers to the denser parts of the state, where good broadband is available.

It could, but lots of areas are hoping for that right now.

It will be interesting to see if that scenario happens and if there is competition to bring in those workers - and what they use to lure them.

There are a few co-works in my area which have been successful. Those will play an important role moving forward. Affordable housing, low taxes, quality housing/schools.
 

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The lady that wrote the article has a BA from Northwestern and a masters from Johns Hopkins.

So? She a degree in Journalism. so maybe she should do some research on a subject before writing an article. And Hunter Biden has a law degree from an Ivy. What's your point?

You need to read the comments section...you would fit right in...most say socialism and higher taxes are the solution...and until WV embraces both...let them DIE!
 

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So? She a degree in Journalism. so maybe she should do some research on a subject before writing an article. And Hunter Biden has a law degree from an Ivy. What's your point?

You need to read the comments section...you would fit right in...most say socialism and higher taxes are the solution...and until WV embraces both...let them DIE!
Wonder how much money Biden got for that school to admit his derelict son?
 

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Is WV growing? I'm sure it's in the Eastern Panhandle, any place else?

The Morgantown area and to some extent Bridgeport is growing. Wheeling is stabilizing and if Biden does not kill the Cracker Plant...it would be taking off also.

Davis is seeing investment. My buddy just bought a condo there and the market is expected to grow very fast in the coming years.
 

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Is WV growing? I'm sure it's in the Eastern Panhandle, any place else?
I meant to say possible future growth. I do believe the Eastern Panhandle is growing like you said, but that is more about DC that it is WV. The Eastern Panhandle just happens to be close enough to commute to DC and so you're getting people living in WV and working in and around DC.

Like the article said, hopefully WV benefits from the movement from larger cities to more rural areas now that remote work has proven to be as if not more efficient for certain types of jobs.

Couldn't hurt to eliminate the state income tax in WV. Don't think anyone in WV would argue with that.
 

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A few of Bari's comments about your "bible" are as follows:

"Stories are chosen and told in a way to satisfy the narrowest of audiences, rather than to allow a curious public to read about the world and then draw their own conclusions."

"And if, every now and then, she succeeds in getting a piece published that does not explicitly promote progressive causes, it happens only after every line is carefully massaged, negotiated and caveated."

"The paper of record is, more and more, the record of those living in a distant galaxy, one whose concerns are profoundly removed from the lives of most people. This is a galaxy in which, to choose just a few recent examples, the Soviet space program is lauded for its 'diversity'; the doxxing of teenagers in the name of justice is condoned; and the worst caste systems in human history includes the United States alongside Nazi Germany."
I never said it was my bible. Your words not mine.
 

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I meant to say possible future growth. I do believe the Eastern Panhandle is growing like you said, but that is more about DC that it is WV. The Eastern Panhandle just happens to be close enough to commute to DC and so you're getting people living in WV and working in and around DC.

Like the article said, hopefully WV benefits from the movement from larger cities to more rural areas now that remote work has proven to be as if not more efficient for certain types of jobs.

Couldn't hurt to eliminate the state income tax in WV. Don't think anyone in WV would argue with that.

How about the massive, bloated, and redundant federal government start shifting federal employees to permanent remote jobs and provide incentives to live in certain areas...like WV and some hard hit rust belt towns?
 

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I meant to say possible future growth. I do believe the Eastern Panhandle is growing like you said, but that is more about DC that it is WV. The Eastern Panhandle just happens to be close enough to commute to DC and so you're getting people living in WV and working in and around DC.

Like the article said, hopefully WV benefits from the movement from larger cities to more rural areas now that remote work has proven to be as if not more efficient for certain types of jobs.

Couldn't hurt to eliminate the state income tax in WV. Don't think anyone in WV would argue with that.
Imagine lowering taxes helping.
 

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How about the massive, bloated, and redundant federal government start shifting federal employees to permanent remote jobs and provide incentives to live in certain areas...like WV and some hard hit rust belt towns?
Would hurt DC's influence
 

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How about the massive, bloated, and redundant federal government start shifting federal employees to permanent remote jobs and provide incentives to live in certain areas...like WV and some hard hit rust belt towns?
Sounds good to me.
 

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If they implemented that into their requirements with their contractors, it would be significant.

I dont mean just for WV, but approved zoned areas with stagnant growth and wages.
I agree a large part of what is dividing the country is that rural/less populated areas where a large percentage of the middle class once was have been particularly hard hit by globalization, service economy, move to green technology, etc. So, if you can't get companies to move there, give incentives to their employees to do so. It would be cheaper than having to give huge tax incentives to companies to move w/ no guarantee they are going to stay. And you would have high earners moving into these areas, which would give incentive to other types of businesses to service them. Its a win-win.
 

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I agree a large part of what is dividing the country is that rural/less populated areas where a large percentage of the middle class once was have been particularly hard hit by globalization, service economy, move to green technology, etc. So, if you can't get companies to move there, give incentives to their employees to do so. It would be cheaper than having to give huge tax incentives to companies to move w/ no guarantee they are going to stay. And you would have high earners moving into these areas, which would give incentive to other types of businesses to service them. Its a win-win.
Renewable/ green energy is around 3% of the market. I wonder how much it has to be subsidized to even get to that number? Have good sound tax policy, things would work out the way they should.
 

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Ew. Ask your son those type of questions. He's the subject matter expert on gay.

Only an ******* attacks someones kids on a message board...but then again...you being the bigot you are you can't help yourself. Like I have posted many times before...I know many people like you....and I truly feel sorry for you...small in every measurable way. What do you have against gay people anyways? Honest question.

You post a really shallow article thinking that telecommuting will offset the jobs lost by liberal policy which targets blue states and you double down on it...that is how tone deaf you are!

Telecommuting will most likely hurt gentrification in the larger NYC area...NYC attracts young people but if you don't have anything to do...they will leave...which is exactly what is going on.
 

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The lady that wrote the article has a BA from Northwestern and a masters from Johns Hopkins.

I'm not sure what the point of saying that is, but if she is also not from a place like WV, and she probably isn't, then it says something not good about the NYT that they'd even assign her to write a story. Even someone from a place like WV could potentially be co-opted after going to Northwestern, then Johns Hopkins, then working for the NYT.

Why couldn't they get a person from WV that went to college in WV to write that article? The fact that that suggestion will seem ridiculous to some only highlights how entrenched the thinking is that only people that go to elite schools and work at elite papers can determine what is good for a place like WV.