DOJ has not found fraud that would reverse Biden win over Trump, Attorney General William Barr says

bornaneer

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I don't see "we want the election results overturned" anywhere in that statement.
 

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Then Trump was as inept in proving fraud as he was with any of his other “facts”.

He’s the sitting President, has the DOJ in his pocket, he has some of the largest law firms in the country on payroll, has the Supreme Court in his pocket, nominated many of the Federal Jusges, many of the state Secretaries of States in swing states were Republican and they have Republican led Legislatures.

Yet that can’t prove any voter fraud...zero substantive evidence. What happened to the Kracken? LOL

He ran this ELITE operation about as well as his casinos, Trump University and Trump Steaks
You have gone off the deep end....I bet Trump could buy and sell you many times over......you seem to be very jealous of Donald Trump.......I don't give two ***** about Trumps business failures or successes.
 

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No.....I have not read any lawsuits or legal briefs......I am aware they have brought lawsuits about some things....but I have yet to see a quote that states "they" want the election results overturned......maybe some votes will be overturned. Trump is a different kind of animal.......and he will keep it up until hell freezes over.

Fair enough, if want to read the actual lawsuits and briefs, which they are asking Federal judges to overturn the election results in multiple states in favor of Trump, go read Marc Elias on Twitter.....he provides the brief documents to be read....

This is why they are getting tossed as fast as they ade
 

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Fair enough, if want to read the actual lawsuits and briefs, which they are asking Federal judges to overturn the election results in multiple states in favor of Trump, go read Marc Elias on Twitter.....he provides the brief documents to be read....

This is why they are getting tossed as fast as they ade
This is the only social media I do.......Did Twitter tag Marc Elias's tweets as ....."is disputed"?
 

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all that is irrelevant....i would have voted for a cat turd before Trump and there are alot of us.
You are a supporter of murdering the most innocent and vulnerable among all of us. Just remember that on judgement day.
 

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This is the only social media I do.......Did Twitter tag Marc Elias's tweets as ....."is disputed"?

No. He is a reputable attorney and provides real time access for everyone to read the actual lawsuits and legal briefs......
 

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I don't want the DoJ involved...

after what I've seen the past FOUR YEARS...

the DoJ better stay the hell away from this...

the Constitution is the playbook now...
 

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Exactly the type of shallow, thoughtless, response I expected. You guys all hate Trump and have no idea why. Congrats, your brainwashing is complete.
I vote for my wallet.....not big businesses. I vote for a clean environment.....I vote for affordable healthcare and a decent minimum wage. If a Republican was serious about these issues....I would have no problem supporting them.
 
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I vote for my wallet.....not big businesses. I vote for a clean environment.....I vote for affordable healthcare and a decent minimum wage.
You vote for your wallet by voting for tax increases and higher gas prices? LOL. I hope you are a comedian, because that was pretty hilarious. Trump supports a clean environment and affordable healthcare and a decent minimum wage as well. Why exactly do you hate him again? Or are you getting dementia like your fraudulent leader?
 

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You have gone off the deep end....I bet Trump could buy and sell you many times over......you seem to be very jealous of Donald Trump.......I don't give two ***** about Trumps business failures or successes.
So you’re saying Trump University, his bankrupt casinos and Trumps Steaks...were successes? You and I have a different definition of success.
 

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You vote for your wallet by voting for tax increases and higher gas prices? LOL. I hope you are a comedian, because that was pretty hilarious. Trump supports a clean environment and affordable healthcare and a decent minimum wage as well. Why exactly do you hate him again? Or are you getting dementia like your fraudulent leader?
You lost any credibility you had (none) by saying Trump supports a clean environment.

And Trump tried for 4 years to blow up the ACA and couldn’t do it. Probably because he could never say what he was going to replace it with except for the cheapest, most beautiful healthcare system the word has ever seen.
 

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So you’re saying Trump University, his bankrupt casinos and Trumps Steaks...were successes? You and I have a different definition of success.
How in the hell did you come up with that observation? I never said they were successes......did you notice I mentioned the word "failures"? Apparently your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.
 

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You vote for your wallet by voting for tax increases and higher gas prices? LOL. I hope you are a comedian, because that was pretty hilarious. Trump supports a clean environment and affordable healthcare and a decent minimum wage as well. Why exactly do you hate him again? Or are you getting dementia like your fraudulent leader?
where is his minimum wage increase? where is his healthcare plan? Why cut back on EPA programs? You are definitely the comedian. He had 4 years......time to move along.
 

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You lost any credibility you had (none) by saying Trump supports a clean environment.

And Trump tried for 4 years to blow up the ACA and couldn’t do it. Probably because he could never say what he was going to replace it with except for the cheapest, most beautiful healthcare system the word has ever seen.

Your racism will not be tolerated on this board
 

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and you murderers do it in just a different way.......


LOL. Wow, what a pathetic argument right there. You're comparing accidents and random acts of violence by thugs and criminals (that will never be stopped) verses premediated murder of the most innocent and vulnerable lives in society. Oh, the 2nd amendment isn't a republican or democrat thing. It's a Constitution thing. Everybody wants affordable healthcare, but that's NOT going to happen for everybody. You will pay for it through astronomically higher taxes, if not directly. How about a little thing called personal responsibility which involves exercising and eating right so you don't have to go to the doctor? You can raise minimum wage all you want, but that is going to raise the costs of everything else. The businesses most likely to be able to afford wage increases are the ones you want to put out of business. Good luck with all your contradictory thinking.
 

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LOL. Wow, what a pathetic argument right there. You're comparing accidents and random acts of violence by thugs and criminals (that will never be stopped) verses premediated murder of the most innocent and vulnerable lives in society. Oh, the 2nd amendment isn't a republican or democrat thing. It's a Constitution thing. Everybody wants affordable healthcare, but that's NOT going to happen for everybody. You will pay for it through astronomically higher taxes, if not directly. How about a little thing called personal responsibility which involves exercising and eating right so you don't have to go to the doctor? You can raise minimum wage all you want, but that is going to raise the costs of everything else. The businesses most likely to be able to afford wage increases are the ones you want to put out of business. Good luck with all your contradictory thinking.
spoken like a true hypocrite....the innocent can't feed themselves or doctor themselves but like a true Repug.......preach personal responsibility.......the lowest forms of scum on this earth is a hypocrite. The innocent as you preach don't understand personal responsibility but keep saying it.
 

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You lost any credibility you had (none) by saying Trump supports a clean environment.

And Trump tried for 4 years to blow up the ACA and couldn’t do it. Probably because he could never say what he was going to replace it with except for the cheapest, most beautiful healthcare system the word has ever seen.
You are the one without credibility:

"The President has directed more efficient implementation of air quality standards, and America’s air is cleaner today than we have seen in recorded history. Emissions of common air pollutants declined by 7% since 2017, and will continue to decline in the coming years. In 2019, the U.S. had the largest absolute decline of energy-related carbon dioxide emissions of any country in the world."

Trump realized there is no good solution for the healthcare issue and so let the ACA implode on it's own
 

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where is his minimum wage increase? where is his healthcare plan? Why cut back on EPA programs? You are definitely the comedian. He had 4 years......time to move along.
Just because he supports something doesn't mean there's a simple solution or any good solution. Do you want to pay higher prices for goods and services in order to accommodate minimum wage increases? The best healthcare plan is to take care of your own health. Eat healthy and exercise. If people took personal responsibility for their own health, healthcare would be much less expensive.
 

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You are the one without credibility:

"The President has directed more efficient implementation of air quality standards, and America’s air is cleaner today than we have seen in recorded history. Emissions of common air pollutants declined by 7% since 2017, and will continue to decline in the coming years. In 2019, the U.S. had the largest absolute decline of energy-related carbon dioxide emissions of any country in the world."

Trump realized there is no good solution for the healthcare issue and so let the ACA implode on it's own
LOL
 

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spoken like a true hypocrite....the innocent can't feed themselves or doctor themselves but like a true Repug.......preach personal responsibility.......the lowest forms of scum on this earth is a hypocrite. The innocent as you preach don't understand personal responsibility but keep saying it.
The innocent are murdered before they even have a chance to feed themselves. You don't even give them a chance. The calling out of having personal responsibility is in reference to those who want to live off the government and get everything handed to them for "free" off the backs of those who DO take personal responsibility for their lives. I'm glad you recognize the left for who they really are.... the lowest form of scum on this earth.
 

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LOL. Wow, what a pathetic argument right there. You're comparing accidents and random acts of violence by thugs and criminals (that will never be stopped) verses premediated murder of the most innocent and vulnerable lives in society. Oh, the 2nd amendment isn't a republican or democrat thing. It's a Constitution thing. Everybody wants affordable healthcare, but that's NOT going to happen for everybody. You will pay for it through astronomically higher taxes, if not directly. How about a little thing called personal responsibility which involves exercising and eating right so you don't have to go to the doctor? You can raise minimum wage all you want, but that is going to raise the costs of everything else. The businesses most likely to be able to afford wage increases are the ones you want to put out of business. Good luck with all your contradictory thinking.
Explain to me how the ACA isn't about personal responsibility? You must pay for health insurance so that the state and other consumers don't have to eat the cost of the care you can't pay for.

With respect to your personal responsibility argument, my FIL died this summer. He was in his late 50's, no sign of any health issues. He was recently retired, more active than your average 25-year old, exercising every day. He didn't smoke, didn't drink, and was only a couple of years removed from running half marathons. He had a massive heart attack and died a few minutes after walking into the house to eat lunch. What about a kid born with a congenital heart defect? What about a kid who develops type I diabetes? What about a family that gets into a bad car accident that is someone else's fault? Those aren't a lack of personal responsibility. Those are just bad luck. Some of those have medical costs that are enough to bankrupt most people.
 

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Then Trump was as inept in proving fraud as he was with any of his other “facts”.

He’s the sitting President, has the DOJ in his pocket, he has some of the largest law firms in the country on payroll, has the Supreme Court in his pocket, nominated many of the Federal Jusges, many of the state Secretaries of States in swing states were Republican and they have Republican led Legislatures.

Yet that can’t prove any voter fraud...zero substantive evidence. What happened to the Kracken? LOL

He ran this ELITE operation about as well as his casinos, Trump University and Trump Steaks

did not read...but this is like trying to prove that the mob was a legit crime organization... maybe we need to get serious and bring a RICO mentality into the fold. I do agree it won't be proven but moving forward our elections should be taken seriously in the blue states.
 

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Just because he supports something doesn't mean there's a simple solution or any good solution. Do you want to pay higher prices for goods and services in order to accommodate minimum wage increases? The best healthcare plan is to take care of your own health. Eat healthy and exercise. If people took personal responsibility for their own health, healthcare would be much less expensive.
False argument.....businesses have continued to raise prices and automate their businesses while the minimum wage has stayed low. I am one that is willing to pay more if it makes peoples lives better.
 

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did not read...but this is like trying to prove that the mob was a legit crime organization... maybe we need to get serious and bring a RICO mentality into the fold. I do agree it won't be proven but moving forward our elections should be taken seriously in the blue states.
You can label them blue states, but WI, MI, PA, AZ, and GA all have GOP controlled state legislatures. I believe 2 of those also have GOP governors, and at least a few have either GOP folks or bipartisan committees in charge of elections. None of those states are purely blue.

With respect to your comment about taking elections seriously, I agree, and that goes for all states. FL made a mess of things in 2000. I give them credit for fixing their process since.
 

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Explain to me how the ACA isn't about personal responsibility? You must pay for health insurance so that the state and other consumers don't have to eat the cost of the care you can't pay for.

With respect to your personal responsibility argument, my FIL died this summer. He was in his late 50's, no sign of any health issues. He was recently retired, more active than your average 25-year old, exercising every day. He didn't smoke, didn't drink, and was only a couple of years removed from running half marathons. He had a massive heart attack and died a few minutes after walking into the house to eat lunch. What about a kid born with a congenital heart defect? What about a kid who develops type I diabetes? What about a family that gets into a bad car accident that is someone else's fault? Those aren't a lack of personal responsibility. Those are just bad luck. Some of those have medical costs that are enough to bankrupt most people.


Sorry for your loss, but the ACA is the opposite of personal responsibility. The ACA is the expansion of Medicaid, as the exchanges were a just a little part of the ACA...everything they touched was a failure....insurance companies got paid, Pharma sold more drugs... They promised preventive care, but that was the 1st thing went out the window. everyone with decent health insurance paid 40% more for people who continue to use the ED as a primary care doctor...healthcare went backwards.
 

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You can label them blue states, but WI, MI, PA, AZ, and GA all have GOP controlled state legislatures. I believe 2 of those also have GOP governors, and at least a few have either GOP folks or bipartisan committees in charge of elections. None of those states are purely blue.

With respect to your comment about taking elections seriously, I agree, and that goes for all states. FL made a mess of things in 2000. I give them credit for fixing their process since.

Everything that happened in PA was from the Gov. office...and let's face it, the Dim's have cheated for years and everyone knows it...it is what it is. When the Pubs start taking union money and their leadership starts going to the GOP convention...then you can say the Pubs are cheating...own your tribe.
 

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The innocent are murdered before they even have a chance to feed themselves. You don't even give them a chance. The calling out of having personal responsibility is in reference to those who want to live off the government and get everything handed to them for "free" off the backs of those who DO take personal responsibility for their lives. I'm glad you recognize the left for who they really are.... the lowest form of scum on this earth.
again.....your argument of protect them in the womb and **** em when they are born shows just how pathetic republicans are.......a two year old goes hungry because mom and dad are lazy and you see that as "personal responsibility" silliest **** I have ever heard.
 

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again.....your argument of protect them in the womb and **** em when they are born shows just how pathetic republicans are.......a two year old goes hungry because mom and dad are lazy and you see that as "personal responsibility" silliest **** I have ever heard.

what the hell is wrong with you...this is why the US is divided...