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MountaineerWV

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Semantics. Congress is the House for this scenario. Majority of the 50 States are GOP. Each State gets ONE VOTE. It's not the same as Legislation.

Ok. Correct me if I'm wrong. Georgia has more Republicans in the House than Democrats, but in the other battle ground states, they do not. Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania.

EDIT: So how would it going to the House "help" Trump?
 

WVUBRU

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It isn't going to go to a House vote. Trump and Guiliani and Trumpers are just attempted to destroy the institution of American elections and strengthen our adversaries.
 

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It isn't going to go to a House vote. Trump and Guiliani and Trumpers are just attempted to destroy the institution of American elections and strengthen our adversaries.

I know. But to satisfy my curiosity, how do they think this would change anything? I'm pretty sure that the main states that they are fighting for (Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, and Pennsylvania) will be Democrat states, except maybe Georgia.
 

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Ok. Correct me if I'm wrong. Georgia has more Republicans in the House than Democrats, but in the other battle ground states, they do not. Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania.

EDIT: So how would it going to the House "help" Trump?

Because if each State only gets one vote, the majority of the Representatives are GOP for each State. If you add up who those votes will most likely support based on their representative parties, it's GOP...even though it's only one vote. For instance Georgia's one vote would go GOP. Same with Ohio. Same with Texas. Go down the list of 50 States, and the GOP has the advantage under that scenario.
 

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I know. But to satisfy my curiosity, how do they think this would change anything? I'm pretty sure that the main states that they are fighting for (Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, and Pennsylvania) will be Democrat states, except maybe Georgia.
Each state gets one electoral vote. The legislature from each state casts the vote. There are currently more rep. leg. than dem. Guy in the video said 35 rep. I don't think it's that many, but there are def. more rep. leg. than dem, so Trump would win assuming a vote along party lines.
 

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Each state gets one electoral vote. The legislature from each state casts the vote. There are currently more rep. leg. than dem. Guy in the video said 35 rep. I don't think it's that many, but there are def. more rep. leg. than dem, so Trump would win assuming a vote along party lines.

Pretty sure that's not how it's done. The "states" don't vote, the members in the HOUSE vote. As I stated, other than Georgia, the other states have either same number or more Democrats than Republicans.

As I understand it, there would be a meeting in the House. Every member would meet with their "state" and amongst each other vote. The majority vote will carry that state, and then that state will cast the ONE vote.

EDIT: I get now what you are saying. But I don't think you guys understand that Republicans will not override the vote of its people in states that there were no indications of "fraud".
 

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Honestly I don't think it gets that far. Either the Courts will reject Trump's legal claims, or they will uphold them and declare many of those votes null and void due to either fraud or inability to verify their authenticity.

The bottom line is, it's much too early to declare Biden the winner. Lots can happen between now and Jan 20th.
 

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Honestly I don't think it gets that far. Either the Courts will reject Trump's legal claims, or they will uphold them and declare many of those votes null and void due to either fraud or inability to verify their authenticity.

The bottom line is, it's much too early to declare Biden the winner. Lots can happen between now and Jan 20th.

I've said since day one, Trump has all legal rights to contest this if there's actual proof of fraud. But once the Courts rule, then do you agree that Trump should just drop it and move on?
 

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Pretty sure that's not how it's done. The "states" don't vote, the members in the HOUSE vote. As I stated, other than Georgia, the other states have either same number or more Democrats than Republicans.

As I understand it, there would be a meeting in the House. Every member would meet with their "state" and amongst each other vote. The majority vote will carry that state, and then that state will cast the ONE vote.

EDIT: I get now what you are saying. But I don't think you guys understand that Republicans will not override the vote of its people in states that there were no indications of "fraud".

Among the States where seats were open for Democrats to win in the House, they lost every contested race. Every one. Don't forget, Democrats were predicting a "Blue Wave" Biden would be riding in on. He wiped out before he even hit the top of the crest on his down ballot drawing power.

I posted a very good article on this on another thread. You should read it.

 

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Not true. Dems won the GA-6 house race which was contested. But that ******** lies with every comment. This post is for others that unfortunately reads his ****. I try not to.
 

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I've said since day one, Trump has all legal rights to contest this if there's actual proof of fraud. But once the Courts rule, then do you agree that Trump should just drop it and move on?
If he gets a fair shake in court and loses, then he should move on. What if he wins in court or it goes to the leg. and he wins? Should Biden drop it and move on?
 

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It isn't going to go to a House vote. Trump and Guiliani and Trumpers are just attempted to destroy the institution of American elections and strengthen our adversaries.

The damage is already done. GOP is just trying to clean up the Democrat's mess.
 

atlkvb

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Correction, Georgia House 7

No one is perfect, not even misguided Leftists such as yourself who were boldly predicting a "Blue Wave" for your loser party this cycle. You guys sh*t all over yourselves with that one! :joy:


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Democrats were optimistic about expanding their majority, but that didn't happen. At least seven Democrats lost their seats, including a handful of freshmen who had flipped districts in 2018 that had backed President Donald Trump in 2016. Meanwhile, Republicans held on in suburban areas where Democrats were hoping to make inroads.
 

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Ok. Correct me if I'm wrong. Georgia has more Republicans in the House than Democrats, but in the other battle ground states, they do not. Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania.

EDIT: So how would it going to the House "help" Trump?

It's state by state, not just Georgia. I told you the state count already. If it goes to the House, Trump wins. Got bless ACB if this comes down to her.
 

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Another lie. I didn't predict a blue wave. I didn't even predict Biden would win.

Eat **** and go away scum
 

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If he gets a fair shake in court and loses, then he should move on. What if he wins in court or it goes to the leg. and he wins? Should Biden drop it and move on?

Gets a fair shake? Who decides this? You? Trump?

EDIT: Why would Biden have to "move on"? Wouldn't he get his day(s) in court, too?
 

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EDIT: I get now what you are saying. But I don't think you guys understand that Republicans will not override the vote of its people in states that there were no indications of "fraud".

I bet those House Republicans remember how Nancy has treated them, and Trump, for the last 2 years.
 

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Ok. Correct me if I'm wrong. Georgia has more Republicans in the House than Democrats, but in the other battle ground states, they do not. Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania.

EDIT: So how would it going to the House "help" Trump?
Pa legislature is red.
Michigan legislature is red I think.

Not sure abou Arizona.
 

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If we get any where close to what you guys are speaking about, then our democracy will be dead and we will be under authoritarian rule with one party.......the country would rip itself to pieces under that scenario with Trump......
 

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If we get any where close to what you guys our speaking about, then our democracy will be dead and we will be under authoritarian rule with one party.......the country would rip itself to pieces under that scenario with Trump......

Shouldn't have cheated, cheat.
 

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@WVUBRU having a meltdown if epic proportions

They just can't bury Trump, and it drives 'em nuts!

I seem to have that effect on Leftists don't I atl?

Yes DJT...you totally flummox them!
 
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Gets a fair shake? Who decides this? You? Trump?

EDIT: Why would Biden have to "move on"? Wouldn't he get his day(s) in court, too?
I agree it's very subjective. Whoever loses will cry foul. If it makes it to the Supreme Court, I will accept the outcome.

Not totally sure how the process works, but I assume Joe would get his chance in court at the same time as Trump.
 

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I agree it's very subjective. Whoever loses will cry foul. If it makes it to the Supreme Court, I will accept the outcome.

Not totally sure how the process works, but I assume Joe would get his chance in court at the same time as Trump.

If it doesn't go to the Supreme Court?
 

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If the SUPCO refuses to decide disputed ballots, then the Constitution says the States decide. I only posted the video clip explaining how that would work, didn't say it would turn out that way. For me, I'd say the Courts rule many of those counted ballots as inadmissible because they were not properly verified or counted.

I could be wrong, but the bottom line is Joe Biden has NOT won this as Leftists are claiming.
 

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If it doesn't go to the Supreme Court?
I assume you mean if they refuse to hear the case. If so, I would accept that. I promise not to loot or burn anything down. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a lib city or state if Trump wins again.
 

dave

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It is?

PA = 9 to 9
Michigan = 6 Republican, 7 Democrat, 1 Libertarian

Arizona = 5 Dem, 4 Rep
Are you talking about state legislature or Congress? I am talking about the atate legislature.

In Congress every state gets 1 vote. State legislators decide where their electors go if an election is "thrown out".
 

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The fact that you believe that there is voter fraud on that scale, is terrifying to me......

It's totally reasonable that 3 states stop counting all around the same time, massive vote counts for Biden come in overnight in statistical improbabilities, and noone was allowed to watch them count them. Totally reasonable.

It's also reasonable that some precincts had 300% turnout (that's called overvote), sometimes more than the population of said precinct. Totally reasonable.

I believe it is possible. I want to see the court cases proceed.
 

atlkvb

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It's totally reasonable that 3 states stop counting all around the same time, massive vote counts for Biden come in overnight in statistical improbabilities, and noone was allowed to watch them count them. Totally reasonable.

It's also reasonable that some precincts had 300% turnout (that's called overvote), sometimes more than the population of said precinct. Totally reasonable.

I believe it is possible. I want to see the court cases proceed.

Exactly! For these reasons and others, I think the Courts toss out many of those votes under suspicion...particularly the ones counted in the wee hours of the morning with no one observing.
 

atlkvb

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Not true. Dems won the GA-6 house race which was contested. But that ******** lies with every comment. This post is for others that unfortunately reads his ****. I try not to.

You read that one didn't 'ya? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: