question for Trumpers and for Bidenistas.

indyrockstar

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But if he wins this challenge he'll still be President and you will be a "dumbass mofo clown"!

Funny how that works huh?

Or since you made this post, you are now a dumbass motha clown...

Yeah, i know how this forum works... :smiley:
 

rog1187

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Uh...it was one state and a hell of a lot closer, and the Gore relented in the end.

I’ll make a bet and will leave this place for good...willingly and happily...if Trump EVER concedes graciously. Don’t think he’s done anything graciously in his life. In this specific case I mean he concedes without saying it was still rigged.
37 days later
 

dedhoops24

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Nobody accused trump of having software that changed votes. I don't beleive there's any state where 70,000 more votes were casted for him and not the senate candidates. That's a true discrepancy right there. Of course, it came out of Michigan and Detroit. Big surprise. Notice how not one of the anomolies benefitted Trump? Weird, correct?

When they finally deep dive into the numbers, this is the Republicans and Libertarians that left Trump but still stayed true to their political roots down the ticket......Maine.......anyone who doesn’t see or understand this, hasn’t been paying attention.....
 

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When they finally deep dive into the numbers, this is the Republicans and Libertarians that left Trump but still stayed true to their political roots down the ticket......Maine.......anyone who doesn’t see or understand this, hasn’t been paying attention.....
I would agree in a vast majority of the country. I do not agree in select battlegrounds. Won’t be proven, but there was a ton of fraud in the mail ins.
 

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I would agree in a vast majority of the country. I do not agree in select battlegrounds. Won’t be proven, but there was a ton of fraud in the mail ins.
Cooper said he didn't know what vote harvesting was. Do you believe that?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Cooper said he didn't know what vote harvesting was. Do you believe that?
I think Coop would’ve been willing to accept literally anything to get Trump out of office. It’ll be fun to watch him defend Biden though.
 

dedhoops24

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I would agree in a vast majority of the country. I do not agree in select battlegrounds. Won’t be proven, but there was a ton of fraud in the mail ins.

And yet Trump did better in Philly in 2020 then he did in 2016 and this is with Philly turnout being lower than turnout throughout PA......

So where is this fraud coming from, the red counties in PA? Also, the votes that Republicans have been crying about that came in legally between the 3rd and 6th.....number roughly 10K so they don’t even matter....

BUT, should we be challenging the vote in NC where Trump is winning...? By the way, they allowed for legal votes to arrive 9-days from election and still be counted.....

The credibility issue is huge.......but, what’s new!
 
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NYC_Eer

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Like I said. It was one state that decided the election...not 4. And there were hundreds of votes deciding the winner...not tens of thousands. And there was a legitimate concern...by all parties...not this BS. But sure...it’s similar.
 

dedhoops24

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Like I said. It was one state that decided the election...not 4. And there were hundreds of votes deciding the winner...not tens of thousands. And there was a legitimate concern...by all parties...not this BS. But sure...it’s similar.

Hahaha....Trumpsters claiming this is anything like 2000 is ignorant......plus, there was a strong base of ELITE GOP lawyers who ran to the cause to engage and support the eventual GOP win for Bush.......Trump has C/D level attorneys working for his cause and giving press conferences in Porn Shop Parking lots.......you can’t make this **** up...
 

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And yet Trump did better in Philly in 2020 then he did in 2016 and this is with Philly turnout being lower than turnout throughout PA......

So where is this fraud coming from, the red counties in PA? Also, the votes that Republicans have been crying about that came in legally between the 3rd and 6th.....number roughly 10K so they don’t even matter....

BUT, should we be challenging the vote in NC where Trump is winning...? By the way, they allowed for legal votes to arrive 9-days from election and still be counted.....

The credibility issue is huge.......but, what’s new!
I honestly think the fraud was simply in the mail ins. Fairly easy to ballot harvest. I also think it’s fairly easy to check the voter rolls of those who are registered but haven’t voted and to vote in their place using the drop boxes. You say there isn’t fraud, but there are a lot of dead people who voted. How did it happen?

I have no doubt that there are people like you who also abandoned the top of the ballot.

The concern is with the mail ins. It allows doubt, and that’s a shame.
 

NYC_Eer

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I honestly think the fraud was simply in the mail ins. Fairly easy to ballot harvest. I also think it’s fairly easy to check the voter rolls of those who are registered but haven’t voted and to vote in their place using the drop boxes. You say there isn’t fraud, but there are a lot of dead people who voted. How did it happen?

I have no doubt that there are people like you who also abandoned the top of the ballot.

The concern is with the mail ins. It allows doubt, and that’s a shame.
There aren’t dead people that voted. That is complete BS. No just about every election official...both Rep and Dem...have said there is ZERO substantive issue with mail in fraud. But go ahead and stick with the party line and the right wing Tweets that are usually disproven the next day by legitimate sources.
 

atlkvb

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Trump or @atlkvb or both??

:joy:

Know something Indy I have never talked to a Leftist who could honestly and intelligently argue for or explain why they are Leftists. Never. Maybe you can break that trend?

Give me the solid reasons you vote Left or see it as the superior solution for policy objectives this nation should pursue. If you honestly answer I'll be shocked and maybe even impressed.

If you clam up I'll just consider you another dumb mind numbed inarticulate Leftist Mofo.

Give it a shot.
 

indyrockstar

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Know something Indy I have never talked to a Leftist who could honestly and intelligently argue for or explain why they are Leftists. Never. Maybe you can break that trend?

Give me the solid reasons you vote Left or see it as the superior solution for policy objectives this nation should pursue. If you honestly answer I'll be shocked and maybe even impressed.

If you clam up I'll just consider you another dumb mind numbed inarticulate Leftist Mofo.

Give it a shot.

I am left handed. I had no choice...

And I consider you a dumb mind numbed inarticulate Rightist mofo.... :joy: Now give us all the climatic response back... Make it count!!!!
 

NYC_Eer

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I am left handed. I had no choice...

And I consider you a dumb mind numbed inarticulate Rightist mofo.... :joy: Now give us all the climatic response back... Make it count!!!!
I can tell you how it’ll look
  • He ask you for proof of something that is really opinion.
  • He’ll ask you a stupid question, but use some big words he doesn’t quite use the right way.
  • If you don’t answer he’ll tag you in multiple post “calling you out” as if that means something real. He LOVES owning the libs.
  • Oh...the memes/gifs. At least one if not several, which he thinks makes his post funny like memes are a new cool thing.
  • At some point he’ll bring it back to religion...more specifically all those darn last minute abortions.
 
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I can tell you how it’ll look
  • He ask you for proof of something that is really opinion.
  • He’ll ask you a stupid question, but use some big words he doesn’t quite use the right way.
  • If you don’t answer he’ll tag you in multiple post “calling you out” as if that means something real. He LOVES owning the libs.
  • Oh...the memes/gifs. At least one if not several, which he thinks makes his post funny like memes are a new cool thing.
  • At some point he’ll bring it back to religion...more specifically all those darn last minute abortions.

Nailed it!
 

atlkvb

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I am left handed. I had no choice...

And I consider you a dumb mind numbed inarticulate Rightist mofo.... :joy: Now give us all the climatic response back... Make it count!!!!

Thanks for proving my point.
 
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atlkvb

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I can tell you how it’ll look
  • He ask you for proof of something that is really opinion.
  • He’ll ask you a stupid question, but use some big words he doesn’t quite use the right way.
  • If you don’t answer he’ll tag you in multiple post “calling you out” as if that means something real. He LOVES owning the libs.
  • Oh...the memes/gifs. At least one if not several, which he thinks makes his post funny like memes are a new cool thing.
  • At some point he’ll bring it back to religion...more specifically all those darn last minute abortions.
atl giving advice to lobotomized Leftists like @NYC_Eer who struggle finding the right words explaining how they are never able to talk intelligently why they mindlessly vote Left?
 

dave

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There aren’t dead people that voted. That is complete BS. No just about every election official...both Rep and Dem...have said there is ZERO substantive issue with mail in fraud. But go ahead and stick with the party line and the right wing Tweets that are usually disproven the next day by legitimate sources.
There were dead people who voted. I mean a girl in Nevada admits her dad voted and he has been dead for years.
 

Christian96

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There were dead people who voted. I mean a girl in Nevada admits her dad voted and he has been dead for years.
Check for hidden a code to flip votes, dead votes, votes after the correct time on election day. Trump will win Georgia. Now we need to get the same thing corrected in other swing states. I doubt Biden even received 50 millions votes legitimately. It was a low energy campaign with a stuttering fool with a criminal record of corruption. I know the dummies on the left hate Trump and hence there would be some turnout. Trump must have won in a landslide.
 

atlkvb

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See @NYC_Eer all I do is simply ask you folks on the Left to defend what you believe in, or at least reasonably or intelligently explain it? None of you can. Not one of you!

Partly because you all are inherently dishonest, you can't honestly explain or argue for what you actually believe in or support. Or in those rare instances when you are passionate enough or honest enough to actually argue for what you want, you cannot defend it with logic, or hard facts, or even an accomplished record of success. Facts or reasonable explanations as to why it is the better way never are at your command, and for the most part you avoid any discussion of your policy successes backing up your continued pursuits of your failed ideology?

I simply find it amusing how consistently you all run away from your core beliefs, yet steadfastly cling to your failed ideas to the point of your intellectual impotence. It's just beyond comical how you cannot ever argue for what it is you actually vote for and support, and none of you can even remotely or cogently articulate whatever that is.

 

Christian96

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See @NYC_Eer all I do is simply ask you folks on the Left to defend what you believe in, or at least reasonably or intelligently explain it? None of you can. Not one of you!

Partly because you all are inherently dishonest, you can't honestly explain or argue for what you actually believe in or support. Or in those rare instances when you are passionate enough or honest enough to actually argue for what you want, you cannot defend it with logic, or hard facts, or even an accomplished record of success. Facts or reasonable explanations as to why it is the better way never are at your command, and for the most part you avoid any discussion of your policy successes backing up your continued pursuits of your failed ideology?

I simply find it amusing how consistently you all run away from your core beliefs, yet steadfastly cling to your failed ideas to the point of your intellectual impotence. It's just beyond comical how you cannot ever argue for what it is you actually vote for and support, and none of you can even remotely or cogently articulate whatever that is.

They can’t defend what they believe.

@NYC_Eer has no absolute morals. He doesn’t believe in a moral law giver. Therefore good and evil don’t apply to him or his belief system.

That’s how atheists are. Always in denial about their faith. It’s takes faith to not believe.

And those same idiots claim that God is evil. Lol. Do they even realize how foolish they are?
 

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@NYC_Eer
three questions for your atheistic views.

If the Democrats steal the U.S. election (or even attempt to steal and fail), would there be anything wrong with that?

Is there anything wrong with lying or stealing?

Do the ends justify the means?

Please provide answers to "why" for these questions to explain your position, based on the so-called morality of the Atheist worldview.
 
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The one thing that is is not being covered that I truly think is significant about Biden winning. You don't see rioting in the streets like you saw when Trump won in 2016. To me that speaks volumes about the mindset and the beliefs of the folks on each side.
 

atlkvb

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I'll give you a chance @NYC_Eer to disprove my point in post 65.

I'd assume you're a big fan/supporter of the ACA correct? Want to see Joe Biden expand it correct? Think it was a huge success, and accomplished its primary objective of lowering health care costs for insured Americans while expanding coverage to those who didn't have it (health insurance)?

All correct?

OK....give me the facts supporting that, why it was successful, and how expanding it is superior to all other competing alternatives?

Here are a few of the competing alternatives being offered, promising lower costs with expanded coverage options.

  • patient centered market based choice
  • medical malpractice caps on insurance claims
  • Private health care companies and employer based medical insurance consortiums
  • privately funded personal portable tax free Medical savings accounts for routine care
  • low cost high deductible catastrophic emergency insurance for major surgeries and care
  • interstate competition selling health insurance policies across State lines
  • open source pricing competition, and truth in pricing information
  • transparent pricing for health related services
  • consumers independently comparison shopping for the exact care they need at the prices they are both willing to pay and can afford?
Now let me hear your arguments for the better performing, more cost efficient, less burdensome ACA as we debate expanding its record of ongoing success. Use as many facts and data as you can that support your arguments for its continued successful operation since that's what you are voting for and voting to support.

Got it?

Great...let's hear your arguments.
 
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I'll give you a chance @NYC_Eer to disprove my point in post 65.

I'd assume you're a big fan/supporter of the ACA correct? Want to see Joe Biden expand it correct? Think it was a huge success, and accomplished its primary objective of lowering health care costs for uninsured Americans while expanding coverage to those who didn't have it?

All correct?

OK....give me the facts supporting that, why it was successful, and how expanding it is superior to all other competing alternatives?

Here are a few of the alternatives offering superior care, at lower costs with expanded coverage options.

  • patient centered market based choice
  • medical malpractice caps on insurance claims
  • Private health care companies and employer based medical insurance consortiums
  • privately funded personal portable tax free Medical savings accounts for routine care
  • low cost high deductible catastrophic emergency insurance for major surgeries and care
  • interstate competition selling health insurance policies across State lines
  • open source pricing competition, and truth in pricing information
  • transparent pricing for health related services
  • consumers independently comparison shopping for the exact care they need at the prices they are both willing to pay and can afford?
Now let me hear your arguments for the better performing, more cost efficient, less burdensome ACA as we debate expanding it's record of ongoing success. Use as many facts and data that support your arguments for its successful operation since that's what you are voting for and voting to expand.

Got it?

Great...let's hear your arguments.
I’m still waiting atl.
 

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There aren’t dead people that voted. That is complete BS. No just about every election official...both Rep and Dem...have said there is ZERO substantive issue with mail in fraud. But go ahead and stick with the party line and the right wing Tweets that are usually disproven the next day by legitimate sources.

If you believe that..... I've got a nice bit of beach front property in WV to sell you.

We come from a state that helped write the book on buying elections. There's no doubt that shady **** took place with some mail in voting. Enough to overturn the election? Probably not, but it still should be fully investigated. Period.

And how about for the next 4 years this country get it's **** together with how we vote.
 

atlkvb

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I went to bed last night hoping I'd wake up this morning reading a sterling defense of Socialized medicine from @NYC_Eer as represented by the horribly constructed and poorly run ACA. I see no defense of whatever it is he supports if he's not ultimately for a single payer system. Which makes my point I stated to him in post #65.

He took considerable time mocking me and how I debate on this forum, yet in that post #65, I laid out as succinctly as I could what my typical experience is with Leftists when I encounter them asking them to defend exactly what they are voting for or what it is they actually believe in?

I don't know why he didn't/won't honestly answer me because there aren't many Leftists who do not in truth prefer a single payer system for health care insurance. However whatever it is they prefer, neither he nor any of the rest of them can intelligently argue for it or defend the gross failure as a substitute the failed ACA represents.

Now you have your proof of what I was saying thanks to @NYC_Eer . Point made, point perfectly illustrated.
 

atlkvb

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@NYC_Eer
three questions for your atheistic views.

If the Democrats steal the U.S. election (or even attempt to steal and fail), would there be anything wrong with that?

Is there anything wrong with lying or stealing?

Do the ends justify the means?

Please provide answers to "why" for these questions to explain your position, based on the so-called morality of the Atheist worldview.

You will NOT get an answer to one of these questions. Never.
 

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Trumpers: there are numerous lawsuits pending, filed by Republicans. Repubs have offered monetary rewards for information of vote fraud (i.e., Texas offical offering $25,000 per tip, capped at $1 million), and AG Barr has set loose the Justice Dept all over the country to ferett out vote fraud. A number of states are doing recounts. If, after all the lawsuits are done, the courts have said, in effect, that Biden wins, and the recounts affirm current results, will you accept it?

Bidenistas: If, after the recounts and the court cases are done, it turns out that Trump is the winner, will you accept it?

If Biden wins, I have to run out in the street and scream, then resist, then cry about everything he does for 4 years. That's the standard now, right?
 

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Voter fraud and collusion are very hard to prove. That's why the liberals do it and do it often. Even to each other.
 

WVUALLEN

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If Biden wins, I have to run out in the street and scream, then resist, then cry about everything he does for 4 years. That's the standard now, right?

You actually think he's going to last 4 years? Cause I think he's out on his *** before then as he will either be committed to an assisted living retirement home or asked to resign because of criminal charges. Then the tyrant of California Kamala Harris, who isn't black but wants everyone to think she is, takes over the destruction of the US.

Hell you're right they just might let him stay and hide him in the basement while she runs the country. That way they can put all blame on Biden. Sneaky she devil.