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If masks work, then why is it necessary to quarantine?

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A married couple in Hardin County, Kentucky was ordered to wear ankle monitors after refusing to sign the "Self-isolation and Controlled Movement Agreed Order," CBS Affiliate WKYT reported.

Elisabeth Linscott told NBC affiliate WAVE that she had tested for coronavirus on Saturday, July 11, because she was planning to visit family members in Michigan. She was asymptomatic but tested positive, WAVE reported.

After Linscott tested positive for coronavirus she told the news channel that she refused to meet the health department's request that she signs documents that restricted her from traveling without permission. She said that although the couple did not agree to sign the papers, they were not refusing to self-quarantine.

"My part was if I have to go to the ER, if I have to go to the hospital, I'm not going to wait to get the approval to go," Linscott told WAVE. She added in the interview that the Director of the Public Health Department "told the judge" that "I was refusing to self-quarantine," but that "that was not the case at all."

A few days after she refused to sign the documents, Linscott told WAVE that Linscott said the Hardin County Sheriff's Department arrived at her door. WAVE reported the couple was mandated to wear ankle monitors that would notify law enforcement if they travel beyond 200 feet.

The husband, Isaiah Linscott, who was wearing a "Make America Great Again" cap in the interview, said he opened the door to find around eight people waiting to speak with his family. "I'm like what the heck's going on?" Linscott told WAVE.

The couple says they will get an attorney, WAVE reported.

Kentucky has taken severe measures to slow the spread of the coronavirus since April when judges ordered a number of residents who tested positive to wear GPS monitors. Four or more people in Louisville, Kentucky were ordered in April to wear ankle monitors after disobeying guidelines to self-quarantine.

Insider has reached out to the Kentucky Department for Public Health for comment.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kentucky-couple-refused-sign-self-193417803.html
 
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We no longer live in a free country. You think it's bad now? Just wait and see if Biden wins how much our freedom will disappear.
 
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bamaEER said:
Mask is simply a layer of biosecurity. The more layers, the better.
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Bullsh!t. Millions of $$$ has been spent to try to convince Americans that masks are the way to "stop the spread" in these commercials and other sources of propaganda. Fact is if they work, then this husband/wife would not have to quarantine in their home. They should be able to go about their normal day, FOLLOWING PROPER CDC GUIDELINES!!!!!!!

1. Mask
2. Social Distancing

Keep putting your head in the sand, hopefully some of you will forget to come up for air.
 
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Mayo Clinic says - Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.

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The CDC recommendation to wear cloth face coverings comes from new data that shows a significant portion of people with coronavirus have mild or no symptoms, and even if someone does develop more severe symptoms, they can transmit the virus before those symptoms appear. This means that people can spread the virus to others without even knowing they have it.

While wearing a cloth face covering isn’t primarily intended to help protect the wearer, it can help prevent the wearer from spreading the virus through viral droplets (such as saliva or mucus) even if they are not aware they are infected.

The CDC continues to recommend that medical grade masks, such as surgical masks and N95 respirators be reserved for health care workers and other medical first responders since we are in short supply.

CDC - Quarantine refers to the practice of separating individuals who have had close contact with someone with COVID-19 to determine whether they develop symptoms or test positive for the disease. Quarantine also reduce the risk of transmission if an individual is later found to have COVID-19. Quarantine for COVID-19 should last for a period of 14 days after the exposure has ended. Ideally, each quarantined individual should be quarantined in a single cell with solid walls and a solid door that closes. If symptoms develop during the 14-day period, and/or a quarantined individual receives a positive viral test result for SARS-CoV-2, the individual should be placed under medical isolation and evaluated by a healthcare professional. If symptoms do not develop during the 14-day period and the individual does not receive a positive viral test result for SARS-CoV-2, quarantine restrictions can be lifted. (NOTE: Some facilities may also choose to implement a “routine intake quarantine,” in which individuals newly incarcerated/detained (“new intakes”) are housed separately or as a group for 14 days before being integrated into general housing. This type of quarantine is conducted to prevent introduction of SARS-CoV-2 from incoming individuals whose exposure status is unknown, rather than in response to a known exposure to someone infected with SARS-CoV-2.)
 
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Also note the CDC recommendation regarding masks is to wear them when social distancing is difficult or impossible. Not both. Either or.
 
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I can not find anything to specifically answer your question. What I have found is they consider wearing a mask and quarantine as two different things.

IMO the ones who have tested positive should be quarantined to see if symptoms show. Why should healthy people be quarantined? As far as the mask. I say it should be your own decision on if you want to wear a mask or not. If you get sick when not wearing a mask, then well it's your own fault so go to quarantine. If a mask works or doesn't is really not 100% known. Medical society it works. But are they being safe for their own good and not getting the blame if people get the virus.

My question is an expensive one. Do you test everyone before they go out into the world? Is that even possible? Are the Homeless practicing distancing and do they have a mask?

Me I choose not to wear one. But I also don't enter places that force you to wear one.
 
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The amount of butthurt over masks and the constant beating of that horse is hands down the funniest thing on this forum since Knox's Hans story.
 
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WVUCOOPER said:
The amount of butthurt over masks and the constant beating of that horse is hands down the funniest thing on this forum since Knox's Hans story.
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Nope. Just showing the hypocrisy of mask mandates........if they work, then we wouldn't see stories of asymptomatic people being fitted with ankle monitors and forced to stay home for 14 days.
 
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WVUCOOPER said:
The amount of butthurt over masks and the constant beating of that horse is hands down the funniest thing on this forum since Knox's Hans story.
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Seriously. I’m not sure why the need to lobby so hard one way or the other. Go back to work!
 
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MountaineerWV said:
I just want this question answered: WHY QUARANTINE IF MASKS WORK?
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Not sure if this is what your getting at or not.

The benefits of wearing a mask are two-fold, says epidemiologist Raina MacIntyre, who heads the Kirby Institute's Biosecurity Program at the University of New South Wales.

"Firstly, it will prevent someone who is infected from emitting virus into the air around them; and secondly it may well protect people from inhaling contaminated air or being sprayed by sneezes and coughs," Professor MacIntyre says. So yes why are they quarantining if you can wear a mask when infected to stop the spread.

But then...
"It's one level of protection, don't get me wrong, but it's not overly effective," Ms Cole says.

Like many things, wearing a mask is all about reducing risk, Dr Jardine says.

"The more virus fragments you have in your environment, the more likely you are to be affected," she says.

"If you can just reduce the number of fragments you're going to reduce risk."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-05-29/coronavirus-faces-masks-explainer/12296094

This is a debate that could go on forever. Mask or not mask. Mask or quarantine.
 
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study published in early April found surgical face masks "significantly reduced" the detection of coronavirus RNA in aerosols.

An analysis published in the British Medical Journal recommended wearing face masks as even limited protection could save lives.

One of the many responses to the analysis highlighted "potential side effects" of wearing masks that should be considered.

The lead author of the analysis wrote a rebuttal to one of the other responses, exhorting them to "embrace the full range of evidence in the context of the perilous threat the world is now facing".

Professor MacIntyre has published other articles looking at face mask use during this pandemic including one in the Journal of Travel Medicine and one in the International Journal of Nursing Studies.

Research published today found wearing face masks at home was 79 per cent effective at preventing the spread of COVID-19 among family members, but only before the first person infected showed symptoms.
 
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What do you think ?

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I've said, schools should open up for in-person classes. But, if parents are freaked out about this, then give them the option to do an online version of schooling through the district they live in. As for teachers that are suffering from pre-existing health situations themselves and may not be able to return, then grant them a medical leave of absence.
 
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"Wearing a mask can really give you that false sense of security sometimes, that you are protected from a virus," Ms Cole says.

It can also cause you to touch your face more and adjust the mask if you're not used to wearing one, potentially increasing your risk of contamination.

And there is that unintended consequence that people may not follow other advice because they have that false sense of protection, Dr Jardine says.

"I think in the absence of a formal recommendation [to wear masks], people need to make their own risk judgements," Professor MacIntyre says.

"If someone works as a bus driver or needs to ride a crowded train every day to work, they may consider it, especially if they are older or have chronic diseases."

And we need to remember that wearing a mask is "not a silver bullet", but one way you can minimise your risk, Ms Cole says.

"Physical distancing, staying at home, washing your hands and not touching your face are more effective than simply wearing a mask," she says.

"Wearing a mask can't supersede all those other things."
 
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bamaEER said:
It's unreal. Another thread on masks. Shocking.
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No, it's not about masks........it's about forcible quarantine when we have a "expert" endorsed method to prevent the spread = masks. [eyeroll]


EDIT: I still have about 100 more posts until I catch up to you and your "Russian collusion" threads.
 
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MountaineerWV said:
No, it's not about masks........it's about forcible quarantine when we have a "expert" endorsed method to prevent the spread = masks. [eyeroll]


EDIT: I still have about 100 more posts until I catch up to you and your "Russian collusion" threads.
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Forgive bama, he was trying to impress his crush.
 
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WVUALLEN said:
"Wearing a mask can really give you that false sense of security sometimes, that you are protected from a virus," Ms Cole says.

It can also cause you to touch your face more and adjust the mask if you're not used to wearing one, potentially increasing your risk of contamination.

And there is that unintended consequence that people may not follow other advice because they have that false sense of protection, Dr Jardine says.

"I think in the absence of a formal recommendation [to wear masks], people need to make their own risk judgements," Professor MacIntyre says.

"If someone works as a bus driver or needs to ride a crowded train every day to work, they may consider it, especially if they are older or have chronic diseases."

And we need to remember that wearing a mask is "not a silver bullet", but one way you can minimise your risk, Ms Cole says.

"Physical distancing, staying at home, washing your hands and not touching your face are more effective than simply wearing a mask," she says.

"Wearing a mask can't supersede all those other things."
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So basically, I can summarize the answer to my question by stating:

1. Masks don't do ****
2. Quarantine is the best option
3. People are dumb as **** and fall straight in line with whatever Fauci or the mask experts say
 
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MountaineerWV said:
No, it's not about masks........it's about forcible quarantine when we have a "expert" endorsed method to prevent the spread = masks. [eyeroll]


EDIT: I still have about 100 more posts until I catch up to you and your "Russian collusion" threads.
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Did Biff get impeached over masks?
 
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MountaineerWV said:
So basically, I can summarize the answer to my question by stating:

1. Masks don't do ****
2. Quarantine is the best option
3. People are dumb as **** and fall straight in line with whatever Fauci or the mask experts say
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Agree.
 
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Masks help prevent the spread of the virus from an infected person to an uninfected person. The uninfected mask wearer isn't protected from contracting the virus, however, as his eyes remain exposed, and the virus may enter your body through your eyes.
 
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tOSUGrad90 said:
Masks help prevent the spread of the virus from an infected person to an uninfected person. The uninfected mask wearer isn't protected from contracting the virus, however, as his eyes remain exposed, and the virus may enter your body through your eyes.
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For many people that are buying this garbage, it is entering their body through their a$$holes because they are bending over and touching their toes without question.
 
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Well, since people still die in car accidents wearing their seatbelts, they should now be required to wear this. It just provides an extra layer of protection.

 
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MountaineerWV said:
Then I think it's simple. I've got an idea that will get rid of 75% or better of cases:

If a person test positive, quarantine them for 10-14 days. No masks needed.

Return back to normal in 4 weeks minimum.
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You think government mandating massive tests (that we can't handle) with a government contact tracing program is more desirable than wearing a mask? L M A O

Quickly surpassing Hans. This is clearly performance art. Bravo!
 
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