Putin and MBS are really sticking it to Americans...

WVUCOOPER

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At least they aren't inverted? :eek:
 

atlkvb

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Coop is such a tool. Russia is hemorrhaging revenue because of this oil price war and we stand to gain not only market share because we can sell more than them, but they're running out of leverage in the very area of the world critical to their long range objectives to check us!

The Middle East! Coop is too Conservative to notice how this is a win-win for Trump and American consumers.
 

Keyser76

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Lol, Donnie is the greatest! Obama was the worst!, that is why everything is running so smoothly these days!
 

atlkvb

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How? Cite some numbers.

  • Worst (lowest) labor participation rates in history.
  • Highest levels of food stamp recipients in history.
  • Highest rates of Black teen unemployment ever recorded.
  • Most cancellations of private Health insurance plans ever.
  • Biggest insurance premium increases ever.
  • Highest levels of illegal immigrants entering the country ever.
  • Lowest levels of consumer confidence since late 70s.
  • Worse levels of military preparedness since late 80s.
  • More debt accumulated than all of his predecessors combined.
Unmitigated disaster.
 

atlkvb

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Lol, Donnie is the greatest! Obama was the worst!, that is why everything is running so smoothly these days!

That magic wand was lost until Zero left office and Trump found it behind the Big Oak desk.
 

mule_eer

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  • Worst (lowest) labor participation rates in history.
  • Highest levels of food stamp recipients in history.
  • Highest rates of Black teen unemployment ever recorded.
  • Most cancellations of private Health insurance plans ever.
  • Biggest insurance premium increases ever.
  • Highest levels of illegal immigrants entering the country ever.
  • Lowest levels of consumer confidence since late 70s.
  • Worse levels of military preparedness since late 80s.
  • More debt accumulated than all of his predecessors combined.
Unmitigated disaster.
Compare today's labor participation rate to the same stat under Obama. It's the same.
 

Walter Brennaneer

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Compare today's labor participation rate to the same stat under Obama. It's the same.

[winking][winking][winking][winking][winking][winking]Ole Conservative Mule enters.[winking][winking][winking][winking][winking][winking]
 

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Airport

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Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. Remember that old school jam by Billy Preston Airport?

That was Zero's theme song.
He played with the Beatles on the song Get Back. I believe
 

mule_eer

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[winking][winking][winking][winking][winking][winking]Ole Conservative Mule enters.[winking][winking][winking][winking][winking][winking]
It's really easy to look it up. The most recent number is up a little, 63.4%. The lowest it got under Obama was about 62.4%, but mostly it bounced between 62.5% - 63% from late 2013 forward. If you want to dospute those facts, feel free.
 

atlkvb

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Compare today's labor participation rate to the same stat under Obama. It's the same.

I'll expand on this later, but a dirty little trick Zero pulled was to stop counting the pool of available workers who had simply given up and stopped looking for work. That was done to keep the unemployment numbers lower (they weren't counted as in the actual labor pool) nor were they part of the participation rate because they were not in the labor force!

Nice huh?

So when you compare the labor participation rate to the amount of actual workers, it does appear to be similar to the participation rates of today. That does NOT however mean there were as many workers employed or available in the labor force as there are today. Both now are at record highs. Ironically, the unemployment rate initially rose as more of those workers who had simply dropped out of the labor force over lack of new jobs entered the workforkce again as more jobs started becoming available.

Figures lie and liars figure. Obama and his inept administration were classic lying figures.
 

mule_eer

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I'll expand on this later, but a dirty little trick Zero pulled was to stop counting the pool of available workers who had simply given up and stopped looking for work. That was done to keep the unemployment numbers lower (they weren't counted as in the actual labor pool) nor were they part of the participation rate because they were not in the labor force!

Nice huh?

So when you compare the labor participation rate to the amount of actual workers, it does appear to be similar to the participation rates of today. That does NOT however mean there were as many workers employed or available in the labor force as there are today. Both now are at record highs. Ironically, the unemployment rate initially rose as more of those workers who had simply dropped out of the labor force over lack of new jobs entered the workforkce again as more jobs started becoming available.

Figures lie and liars figure. Obama and his inept administration were classic lying figures.
We've been through this before. First, you are describing the unemployment rate, I think it's the U6 rate. No one has changed that formula, not before, during, or after the previous administration.

The labor force participation rate is a ratio of the number of folks over 16 years old who are employed in some fashion to the number of people 16 or older. There's no cap on age in that computation. I made the point ages ago that it started dropping as boomers were reaching retirement age. It's only a theory, but it would explain why that statistic remains relatively low despite an otherwise healthy employment climate.
 

atlkvb

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We've been through this before. First, you are describing the unemployment rate, I think it's the U6 rate. No one has changed that formula, not before, during, or after the previous administration.

The labor force participation rate is a ratio of the number of folks over 16 years old who are employed in some fashion to the number of people 16 or older. There's no cap on age in that computation. I made the point ages ago that it started dropping as boomers were reaching retirement age. It's only a theory, but it would explain why that statistic remains relatively low despite an otherwise healthy employment climate.

I don't have time to get into it tonight, but there is NO WAY the labor pool was as active under Zero as it is today. Similar to how we have more Americans actually employed now than ever during Zero's "lost jobs" whinning. So while the formula you are using to make your argument is correct, the actual numbers are incorrect and if I get some time later I'll prove it to you.
 

30CAT

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Just gonna leave this here:


A drop in the bucket compared to the promises kept.

I doubt you'll find one president that was able to keep every promise. I'd venture to say Obama's list of promises not kept is just as big if not bigger. You're just a party-liner leftist who eats what you're fed and toes the party line.

You're filled with so much hatred you can't think for yourself.
 

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A drop in the bucket compared to the promises kept.

I doubt you'll find one president that was able to keep every promise. I'd venture to say Obama's list of promises not kept is just as big if not bigger. You're just a party-liner leftist who eats what you're fed and toes the party line.

You're filled with so much hatred you can't think for yourself.
The ISIS thing was a lie. He said a plan within 30 days. And inside of a year ISIS was done.

Mexico is literally the wall. They’re holding asylum seekers in Mexico effectively paying for them. Crossings are down 70%.

That’s just 2 quick ones.
 

30CAT

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The ISIS thing was a lie.

I have a problem with leftists calling them "lies" when leftists fight him tooth and nail on EVERYTHING he tries to do. I wouldn't doubt that they fight to keep him from taking a piss when he wants to. No President has had to endure what Trump does on a daily basis, because of the left's "resist" plan. All things considered, Trump has done a pretty amazing job.
 

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I have a problem with leftists calling them "lies" when leftists fight him tooth and nail on EVERYTHING he tries to do. I wouldn't doubt that they fight to keep him from taking a piss when he wants to. No President has had to endure what Trump does on a daily basis, because of the left's "resist" plan. All things considered, Trump has done a pretty amazing job.
Trump has been an outstanding President for this country and will be for his second term.
 

atlkvb

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Compare today's labor participation rate to the same stat under Obama. It's the same.

No it is not. More Americans are actually in the labor force and working than ever before. You are arguing who are eligible workers. U6 doesn't measure that. It measures the number of available workers who are in either in the labor force and availble to work (participate) or are actually working.

I'll provide some background later. Then we can debate if we're arguing the same thing? I don't believe we are. But you can point out my error if I'm incorrect on what the labor force participation rate actually measures OK?
 

atlkvb

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Trump has been an outstanding President for this country and will be for his second term.

The Left never explains the promises he's kept. Never. They also never offer better suggestions on the promises they claim he hasn't kept. NEVER.

They are some of most thoughtless, aimless, rudderless, useless folks in politics. They cannot tell you what they are for (not honestly) and they cannot tell you what they will do better than Trump for greater results.

They are mute.
 
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Keyser76

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The Left never explains the promises he's kept. Never. They also never offer better suggestions on the promises they claim he hasn't kept. NEVER.

They are some of most thoughtless, aimless, rudderless, useless folks in politics. They cannot tell you what they are for (not honestly) and they cannot tell you what they will do better than Trump for greater results.

They are mute.
Well did ya expect us to give him the same treatment as Barrack Obama got? lmfao, Universal healthcare, is that a suggestion? lol, "The left" is supposed to explain things? to who? the undecided voters or the folks keeping his approval rating down? It has nothing to do with him huh? He and his administration are as "Perfect" as his Ukraine call! lol, stamping your feet and yelling at everyone who doesn't agree he is a stable genius, he ain't even an unstable one, will just keep growing that base, ya'll are toast come November, I think ya know it too.
 

atlkvb

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Well did ya expect us to give him the same treatment as Barrack Obama got? lmfao, Universal healthcare, is that a suggestion? lol, "The left" is supposed to explain things? to who? the undecided voters or the folks keeping his approval rating down? It has nothing to do with him huh? He and his administration are as "Perfect" as his Ukraine call! lol, stamping your feet and yelling at everyone who doesn't agree he is a stable genius, he ain't even an unstable one, will just keep growing that base, ya'll are toast come November, I think ya know it too.

Hey Keyser...the guy you are ready to vote for just told a Michigan voter he was full of sh*t.

That's a classy candidate 'ya got there. You must be full of it too if you're voting for that guy? Don't be such a Horse's ***!

Hiccup!
 
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Hey Keyser...the guy you are ready to vote for just told a Michigan voter he was full of sh*t.

That's a classy candidate 'ya got there. You must be full of it too if you're voting for that guy? Don't be such a Horse's ***!

Hiccup!


LMAO! Jesus F’ucking Christ. You want to talk about a “classy candidate?” Your hero told a widow her US veteran husband was in hell. He mocked a disabled reporter. He called Nazis “very fine people.” He separated children from their mothers and placed them in cages. He gave the Medal of Freedom to a racist piece of ****.

What the f’uck is wrong with you? You are the dumbest motherf’ucker I have ever encountered.
 

moe

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I saw the other day where Trump's approval rating was right there with two other one term presidents in their fourth year, first term, Carter and GHWBush, uh huh.
 

bamaEER

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LMAO! Jesus F’ucking Christ. You want to talk about a “classy candidate?” Your hero told a widow her US veteran husband was in hell. He mocked a disabled reporter. He called Nazis “very fine people.” He separated children from their mothers and placed them in cages. He gave the Medal of Freedom to a racist piece of ****.

What the f’uck is wrong with you? You are the dumbest motherf’ucker I have ever encountered.
Bifftards bashing Biden's credibility threads are truly priceless. Truly wonderful gifts to enjoy.
 

bamaEER

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I saw the other day where Trump's approval rating was right there with two other one term presidents in their fourth year, first term, Carter and GHWBush, uh huh.
45% is his true top end. He's spent most of the time in the 42-43% range. Probs heading that way with his recent tantrums.
 

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lol...

approval ratings...

same people that said Russians x3 for 3 years...




these are approval ratings...



 

atlkvb

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LMAO! Jesus F’ucking Christ.
You are the dumbest motherf’ucker I have ever encountered.


You forgot to mention when Trump called a potential voter a piece of sh*t, or a Horses ***, or a dog faced pony soldier or "fatty".

So if you forgot that was Trump saying all of those things and NOT Joe Biden what are you so upset about?

You've called me worse haven't you?

No?

Read the bold in your post then complain about what someone calls someone else they disagree with. You're like a welcher who gets upset over people who welch! [eyeroll]
 

atlkvb

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Bifftards bashing Biden's credibility threads are truly priceless. Truly wonderful gifts to enjoy.

You all are OUTRAGED over anything Trump says, Biden insults people who he needs to vote for him and you all laugh it off.

Zero credibility. But that's OK.....voters see how nasty your candidate is and that's good for the guy you folks love to hate because he is vulgar to you? o_O