Sometime in the future (hopefully very distant)

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IF a lib socialist ever wins another election, the impeachment proceedings will start the day after inauguration......the dems will whine and cry foul.....and then we will remind them that it was THEM who set the precedent
 

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IF a lib socialist ever wins another election, the impeachment proceedings will start the day after inauguration......the dems will whine and cry foul.....and then we will remind them that it was THEM who set the precedent

And the left on this board will ***** and moan and cry foul.
 

WVUCOOPER

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IF a lib socialist ever wins another election, the impeachment proceedings will start the day after inauguration......the dems will whine and cry foul.....and then we will remind them that it was THEM who set the precedent
As the House can do, per the Constitution.
 
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IF a lib socialist ever wins another election, the impeachment proceedings will start the day after inauguration......the dems will whine and cry foul.....and then we will remind them that it was THEM who set the precedent

I bet he/she wont ignore subpoenas and direct staff to not testify.
 

30CAT

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No...I'm not wrong. Your leftists leaders are being hypocrites and of course, you suck it right up. When are you going to get off of the leftist teat and stop being made to look a fool?

1. Eric Holder refuses to provide subpoenaed Fast & Furious documents

The investigation of the botched Fast & Furious investigation is perhaps the most significant example of the Obama administration using executive privilege to justify their refusal to cooperate with an investigation. Holder refused to provide subpoenaed documents to the House Oversight and Reform Committee. The blatant attempts by the administration to resist cooperating with the investigation ultimately led to a historic vote to hold Attorney General Holder in criminal contempt.


2. Lois Lerner refuses to testify on IRS targeting

Lois Lerner, the director of the Exempt Organizations Unit of the IRS when they were inappropriately targeting conservative and tea party groups, appeared before Congress in May 2013. She gave a statement but refused to answer questions by pleading the Fifth Amendment. Republicans called her back in March 2014, when she pulled the same stunt. At the time, Rep. Elijah Cummings blasted Republicans for wanting to question Lerner. Today, Cummings is the House Oversight and Reform Chairman and has a much different attitude about Congress’s role of oversight when it comes to Trump.

3. Ben Rhodes not allowed to testify on Iran Nuclear Deal

The Iran Nuclear Deal was so bad Obama didn’t even try to get Senate ratification for it, and much of the negotiations were done without Congress being informed. When Congressional Republicans wanted to get answers after Ben Rhodes (the failed novelist turned Obama speechwriter turned top foreign policy adviser to Obama) let it spill to the New York Times that the administration relied on a false narrative to sell the Iran deal to the public, the White House wouldn’t let him testify, using the “separation of powers” excuse. “Specifically, the appearance of a senior presidential adviser before Congress threatens the independence and autonomy of the president, as well as his ability to receive candid advice and counsel in the discharge of his constitutional duties,” explained White House counsel Neil Eggleston. This was after the White House previously claimed they wouldn’t hide behind executive privilege.

4. Treasury officials blocked from testifying on Obamacare subsidies

When Obama started making all sorts of unilateral (and illegal) changes to Obamacare, Republicans were none too happy about the abuse of power. When Obama’s IRS decided to expand Obamacare subsidies to be used in federal exchanges in addition to state exchanges, the Obama administration refused to allow Treasury Department officials to testify on the rule changing process, using the excuse that the issue was soon to be decided in the Supreme Court.

5. White House refuses to allow political director to testify

In 2014, Democratic operatives were concerned that the Obama White House wasn’t doing enough to help in the forthcoming midterms. In response to these concerns, Obama launched the White House Office of Political Strategy and Outreach. This raised eyebrows for some, who were concerned that Obama and his minions were using White House resources for political activity. So, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee began investigating in order to make sure thefy White House was complying with civil services laws designed to prevent executive branch employees from engaging in political activity. David Simas, the director of the Office of Political Strategy and Outreach was subpoenaed, but the White House refused to allow him to testify before Congress. In a letter to Congress, White House Counsel Neil Eggleston claimed Simas was “immune from congressional compulsion to testify on matters relating to his official duties” and thus would not appear before the committee.

6. Justice Kagan's Obamacare conflict on interest

Prior to being nominated as a justice for the Supreme Court, Elena Kagan served as solicitor general for the Obama administration, during which time she was heavily involved in crafting a legal defense for Obamacare. This conflict of interest was important, since issues revolving around Obamacare would be going before the Supreme Court. Federal law dictates that Supreme Court justices must recuse themselves when their impartiality “might reasonably be questioned.”

Naturally, the Obama administration didn’t want Kagan to recuse herself from any Obamacare-related cases. So, when the House Judiciary Committee requested documents and interviews to get a clear understanding of her role relating to Obamacare while she was solicitor general, the Obama/Holder Justice Department refused to comply. When Eric Holder testified before the committee he claimed to have no knowledge of the request.

7. Refusal to provide subpoenaed Solyndra documents

Remember the Solyndra scandal? The Obama administration wasn’t exactly interested in letting Congress exercise their oversight responsibilities when they investigated how the Obama administration could have given them a huge loan when they were going bankrupt. When House Republicans subpoenaed documents for their investigation, the Obama White House fired back claiming their request would put an "unreasonable burden on the president's ability to meet his constitutional duties." House Republicans accused the Obama White House of hiding information, and they responded with accusations of a partisan investigation.

8. Refusing to let the White House social secretary testify on party crashers scandal

In 2009, two party crashers successfully got by the Secret Service during a state dinner, succeeding in meeting and shaking hands with Barack Obama. Congress investigated the breach in security, but when White House Social Secretary Desirée Rogers was asked to testify before Congress, the White House refused to let her testify. Obama’s press secretary explained during a press briefing that “...based on separation of powers, staff here don't go to testify in front of Congress.” That explanation was questioned by legal scholars. “I'd completely fall out of my chair if they invoked Executive privilege with regards to a social secretary arranging a party,” explained Mark J. Rozell, a public-policy professor at George Mason and expert on executive privilege. For what was arguably a very nonpartisan investigation (and led by Democrats) it certainly makes you wonder what the Obama White House was hiding.

9. Fighting subpoenas in the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation investigation

When the Obama administration inexplicably dropped a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party (NBPP) in Philadelphia, many questions were asked as to why. The NBPP had dressed in paramilitary uniforms outside of polling places in Philadelphia on Election Day 2008, and the case against them, which was started by the Bush administration, and the Obama administration won the case by default when the NBPP didn’t show up in court to defend themselves, but the DOJ decided to dismiss the charges. Former Justice Department attorney (and current PJ Media contributor J. Christian Adams) quit his position in the Justice Department to protest the Obama administration’s handling of the case and confirmed the racial motivation behind the decision to drop the case against them.

Of course, an investigation was launched, which the Obama administration fought rigorously. The investigation was stonewalled, subpoenas were fought, and key players were instructed not to testify.
 
Sep 6, 2013
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No...I'm not wrong. Your leftists leaders are being hypocrites and of course, you suck it right up. When are you going to get off of the leftist teat and stop being made to look a fool?

1. Eric Holder refuses to provide subpoenaed Fast & Furious documents

The investigation of the botched Fast & Furious investigation is perhaps the most significant example of the Obama administration using executive privilege to justify their refusal to cooperate with an investigation. Holder refused to provide subpoenaed documents to the House Oversight and Reform Committee. The blatant attempts by the administration to resist cooperating with the investigation ultimately led to a historic vote to hold Attorney General Holder in criminal contempt.


2. Lois Lerner refuses to testify on IRS targeting

Lois Lerner, the director of the Exempt Organizations Unit of the IRS when they were inappropriately targeting conservative and tea party groups, appeared before Congress in May 2013. She gave a statement but refused to answer questions by pleading the Fifth Amendment. Republicans called her back in March 2014, when she pulled the same stunt. At the time, Rep. Elijah Cummings blasted Republicans for wanting to question Lerner. Today, Cummings is the House Oversight and Reform Chairman and has a much different attitude about Congress’s role of oversight when it comes to Trump.

3. Ben Rhodes not allowed to testify on Iran Nuclear Deal

The Iran Nuclear Deal was so bad Obama didn’t even try to get Senate ratification for it, and much of the negotiations were done without Congress being informed. When Congressional Republicans wanted to get answers after Ben Rhodes (the failed novelist turned Obama speechwriter turned top foreign policy adviser to Obama) let it spill to the New York Times that the administration relied on a false narrative to sell the Iran deal to the public, the White House wouldn’t let him testify, using the “separation of powers” excuse. “Specifically, the appearance of a senior presidential adviser before Congress threatens the independence and autonomy of the president, as well as his ability to receive candid advice and counsel in the discharge of his constitutional duties,” explained White House counsel Neil Eggleston. This was after the White House previously claimed they wouldn’t hide behind executive privilege.

4. Treasury officials blocked from testifying on Obamacare subsidies

When Obama started making all sorts of unilateral (and illegal) changes to Obamacare, Republicans were none too happy about the abuse of power. When Obama’s IRS decided to expand Obamacare subsidies to be used in federal exchanges in addition to state exchanges, the Obama administration refused to allow Treasury Department officials to testify on the rule changing process, using the excuse that the issue was soon to be decided in the Supreme Court.

5. White House refuses to allow political director to testify

In 2014, Democratic operatives were concerned that the Obama White House wasn’t doing enough to help in the forthcoming midterms. In response to these concerns, Obama launched the White House Office of Political Strategy and Outreach. This raised eyebrows for some, who were concerned that Obama and his minions were using White House resources for political activity. So, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee began investigating in order to make sure thefy White House was complying with civil services laws designed to prevent executive branch employees from engaging in political activity. David Simas, the director of the Office of Political Strategy and Outreach was subpoenaed, but the White House refused to allow him to testify before Congress. In a letter to Congress, White House Counsel Neil Eggleston claimed Simas was “immune from congressional compulsion to testify on matters relating to his official duties” and thus would not appear before the committee.

6. Justice Kagan's Obamacare conflict on interest

Prior to being nominated as a justice for the Supreme Court, Elena Kagan served as solicitor general for the Obama administration, during which time she was heavily involved in crafting a legal defense for Obamacare. This conflict of interest was important, since issues revolving around Obamacare would be going before the Supreme Court. Federal law dictates that Supreme Court justices must recuse themselves when their impartiality “might reasonably be questioned.”

Naturally, the Obama administration didn’t want Kagan to recuse herself from any Obamacare-related cases. So, when the House Judiciary Committee requested documents and interviews to get a clear understanding of her role relating to Obamacare while she was solicitor general, the Obama/Holder Justice Department refused to comply. When Eric Holder testified before the committee he claimed to have no knowledge of the request.

7. Refusal to provide subpoenaed Solyndra documents

Remember the Solyndra scandal? The Obama administration wasn’t exactly interested in letting Congress exercise their oversight responsibilities when they investigated how the Obama administration could have given them a huge loan when they were going bankrupt. When House Republicans subpoenaed documents for their investigation, the Obama White House fired back claiming their request would put an "unreasonable burden on the president's ability to meet his constitutional duties." House Republicans accused the Obama White House of hiding information, and they responded with accusations of a partisan investigation.

8. Refusing to let the White House social secretary testify on party crashers scandal

In 2009, two party crashers successfully got by the Secret Service during a state dinner, succeeding in meeting and shaking hands with Barack Obama. Congress investigated the breach in security, but when White House Social Secretary Desirée Rogers was asked to testify before Congress, the White House refused to let her testify. Obama’s press secretary explained during a press briefing that “...based on separation of powers, staff here don't go to testify in front of Congress.” That explanation was questioned by legal scholars. “I'd completely fall out of my chair if they invoked Executive privilege with regards to a social secretary arranging a party,” explained Mark J. Rozell, a public-policy professor at George Mason and expert on executive privilege. For what was arguably a very nonpartisan investigation (and led by Democrats) it certainly makes you wonder what the Obama White House was hiding.

9. Fighting subpoenas in the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation investigation

When the Obama administration inexplicably dropped a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party (NBPP) in Philadelphia, many questions were asked as to why. The NBPP had dressed in paramilitary uniforms outside of polling places in Philadelphia on Election Day 2008, and the case against them, which was started by the Bush administration, and the Obama administration won the case by default when the NBPP didn’t show up in court to defend themselves, but the DOJ decided to dismiss the charges. Former Justice Department attorney (and current PJ Media contributor J. Christian Adams) quit his position in the Justice Department to protest the Obama administration’s handling of the case and confirmed the racial motivation behind the decision to drop the case against them.

Of course, an investigation was launched, which the Obama administration fought rigorously. The investigation was stonewalled, subpoenas were fought, and key players were instructed not to testify.

Yes, you are wrong. Obama never directed his staff to not testify in an impeachment inquiry. trump is the first in the entire history of the US.
 

30CAT

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Yes, you are wrong. Obama never directed his staff to not testify in an impeachment inquiry. trump is the first in the entire history of the US.

I guess you "suddenly" lost the ability to read what I posted. I'm not wrong. Read it. Stop letting your leftist leaders and fake news media do your thinking and talking.
 
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I guess you "suddenly" lost the ability to read what I posted. I'm not wrong. Read it. Stop letting your leftist leaders and fake news media do your thinking and talking.
it can't read at all...whoever is reading to it is telling it falsehoods
 
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lmao. A work of art.
call us when you finally figure out the difference between a conservative and a Trumper.....although because of the actions of the ignorant democratic socialists in congress more conservatives are becoming Trumpers every day......thanks for playing
 

WVUCOOPER

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call us when you finally figure out the difference between a conservative and a Trumper.....although because of the actions of the ignorant democratic socialists in congress more conservatives are becoming Trumpers every day......thanks for playing
Learned it along time ago. You Trumpers are the ones confused. "Conservatives" becoming Trumpers were never conservatives.
 

Airport

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Learned it along time ago. You Trumpers are the ones confused. "Conservatives" becoming Trumpers were never conservatives.
Affirmative action President was never an American democrat but a European socialist
 

Airport

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With the same GDP. And a robust stock market. :joy::joy::joy:
The revenue coming in is quite a bit higher now than when he left. We need to control expenditures. Watching the President's Cup? Wild *** course
 

WVUCOOPER

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The revenue coming in is quite a bit higher now than when he left. We need to control expenditures. Watching the President's Cup? Wild *** course
And it was higher during his tenure than before. And before that it was higher than before. And before that it was higher than before. It’s why their is a GDP calculation.

BTW, spending is quite a bit higher under comrade Trump. That’s how we do this, right?
 

Airport

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And it was higher during his tenure than before. And before that it was higher than before. And before that it was higher than before. It’s why their is a GDP calculation.

BTW, spending is quite a bit higher under comrade Trump. That’s how we do this, right?
Don't call Trump Comrade, he loves this country, Obama hated it but loves trannies
 
Jan 4, 2003
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Learned it along time ago. You Trumpers are the ones confused. "Conservatives" becoming Trumpers were never conservatives.
read carefully or have someone read it to you....I'm not a Trumper but if the dems continue this way I'll be one...and so will 70 million plus,other voters...maybe you better figure out what you are before the next election
 
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