A look at WVU coaches

[Buckaineer]

Here's a comparison of WVU under DH and RR vs. ranked opponents.

Holgorsen coached 8 years (2011-2018) . RR coached 7 years (2001-2007).

Here are their ranked opponents during that time:

Holgorsen:

2011
W at # 23 Cinci 24-21
L #2 LSU 21-47
W at Orange Bowl
Wvs. #14 Clemson 70-33

2012
L #4 KSU 14-55
L #13 OU 49-50
W #25 Baylor 70-63
W @ #11 Texas 48-45

2013
L @#16 OU 7-16
W #11 OK State 30-21
L @ #17 Baylor 42-73
L #16 TT 27-37

2014
W #4 Baylor 41-27
L N #2 Alabam 23-33
L #12 KSU 20-26

2015
L @#15 OU 24-44
L #21 OSU 26-33
L @#2 Baylor 38-62
L @#5 TCU 10-40

2016
L #8 OU 28-56

2017
W #14 ISU 20-16
L @#8 TCU 24-31
L #11 OSU 39-50
L @#3 OU 31-59

2018
W @#24 TT 42-34
W @#15 Texas 42-41
L #6 OU 56-59
L @ Camping World Bowl
vs. #17 Syracuse

So that is 9 wins against ranked opponents. Total 9-17 vs. rank teams--18 of those teams top 15. Total 26 ranked teams played. Also, Holgorsen lost another chance to play and defeat a ranked team in NC State which wasn't played due to a hurricane in the 2018 season.



and Rich Rodriguez:

2007
L @#18 USF 13 24
W @#25 Rutgers 31 3
W @#21 Cincinnati 28 23
W #20 Uconn 66 21

2006
L @#5 UL 34 44
W #13 Rutgers 41 39

2005
L #3 VT 17 34
W #19 Louisville 46 44
Sugar Bowl
W #8 Georgia 38 35

2004
W #21 Maryland 19 16
L #21 BC 17 36
Gator Bowl
L #17 FSU 18 30

2003
L #21 Wisconsin 17 24
L @#2 Miami 20 22
W #3 VT 28 7
W #16 Pitt 52 31

2002
L @ #25 Wisc 17-34
L #1 Miami 23 40
W @ #13 VT 21 18
W @#17 Pitt 24 17

2001
L #8 VT 0-35
L @#1 Miami 3-45
L @#18 SU 13-24

and that is 11 wins vs. ranked teams. Total 11-12 vs. ranked teams. 10 games against teams ranked in the top 15. RR played 23 ranked teams.


To sum up, RR wins against ranked teams:
#25 Rutgers
#21 Cincinnati
#21 Maryland
#20 Uconn
#19 Lousiville
#17 Pitt
#16 Pitt
#13 VT
#13 Rutgers
#8 Georgia
#3 VT

And DH wins against ranked teams:
#25 Baylor
#24 Texas Tech
#23 Cincinnati
#15 Texas
#14 Clemson
#14 ISU
#11 Texas
#11 OK State
#4 Baylor


Both coaches coached their teams to a BCS win.

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

Here's a comparison of WVU under DH and RR vs. ranked opponents.

Holgorsen coached 8 years (2011-2018) . RR coached 7 years (2001-2007).

Here are their ranked opponents during that time:

Holgorsen:

2011
W at # 23 Cinci 24-21
L #2 LSU 21-47
W at Orange Bowl
Wvs. #14 Clemson 70-33

2012
L #4 KSU 14-55
L #13 OU 49-50
W #25 Baylor 70-63
W @ #11 Texas 48-45

2013
L @#16 OU 7-16
W #11 OK State 30-21
L @ #17 Baylor 42-73
L #16 TT 27-37

2014
W #4 Baylor 41-27
L N #2 Alabam 23-33
L #12 KSU 20-26

2015
L @#15 OU 24-44
L #21 OSU 26-33
L @#2 Baylor 38-62
L @#5 TCU 10-40

2016
L #8 OU 28-56

2017
W #14 ISU 20-16
L @#8 TCU 24-31
L #11 OSU 39-50
L @#3 OU 31-59

2018
W @#24 TT 42-34
W @#15 Texas 42-41
L #6 OU 56-59
L @ Camping World Bowl
vs. #17 Syracuse

So that is 9 wins against ranked opponents. Total 9-17 vs. rank teams--18 of those teams top 15. Total 26 ranked teams played. Also, Holgorsen lost another chance to play and defeat a ranked team in NC State which wasn't played due to a hurricane in the 2018 season.



and Rich Rodriguez:

2007
L @#18 USF 13 24
W @#25 Rutgers 31 3
W @#21 Cincinnati 28 23
W #20 Uconn 66 21

2006
L @#5 UL 34 44
W #13 Rutgers 41 39

2005
L #3 VT 17 34
W #19 Louisville 46 44
Sugar Bowl
W #8 Georgia 38 35

2004
W #21 Maryland 19 16
L #21 BC 17 36
Gator Bowl
L #17 FSU 18 30

2003
L #21 Wisconsin 17 24
L @#2 Miami 20 22
W #3 VT 28 7
W #16 Pitt 52 31

2002
L @ #25 Wisc 17-34
L #1 Miami 23 40
W @ #13 VT 21 18
W @#17 Pitt 24 17

2001
L #8 VT 0-35
L @#1 Miami 3-45
L @#18 SU 13-24

and that is 11 wins vs. ranked teams. Total 11-12 vs. ranked teams. 10 games against teams ranked in the top 15. RR played 23 ranked teams.


To sum up, RR wins against ranked teams:
#25 Rutgers
#21 Cincinnati
#21 Maryland
#20 Uconn
#19 Lousiville
#17 Pitt
#16 Pitt
#13 VT
#13 Rutgers
#8 Georgia
#3 VT

And DH wins against ranked teams:
#25 Baylor
#24 Texas Tech
#23 Cincinnati
#15 Texas
#14 Clemson
#14 ISU
#11 Texas
#11 OK State
#4 Baylor


Both coaches coached their teams to a BCS win.

Or you can spin this another way. In Dana’s last 4 years, he went 3-10 against ranked teams. That’s called regression. Whereas, Rodriguez went 7-5 in his final 4 seasons against ranked teams and 6-3 in his last 3.

 

[Buckaineer]

Here's a look at the last several coaches at WVU, what they adopted from the previous coach there, and how well they performed in their first year with "the previous coaches players".

Here is the info listed:
Coach_ First season /Final season_ record final yr _ games coached final season _ last year win %_ conf first/last yr _ 1st year record w "previous coaches players"


Coach__Years_final rec_games coached_last win%_conf_ wins w prev coach rec

NBrown _ 2019/? _ ? _ 2 _ .500%_ B12/? _ 1-1* in progress

DHolgorsen_2011/2018_ 8-4* one game cxld_12 _0.667%_Big East 2.0/B12 _10-3

BStewart _2008/2010 _ 9-4 _13 _0.692% _Big East 2.0 _9-4

RRodriguez _2001/2007 _10-2 _12 _0.833% _ Big East 1.0/Big East 2.0 _3-8

DNehlen _1980/2000 _7-5 _12 _0.583% _Independent/Big East 1.0 _ 6-6

FCignetti _1976/1979 _5-6 _11 _0.455% _Independent _5-6

Bbowden _1970/1975 _9-3 _12 _0.75% _Independent _8-3

 

[Buckaineer]

Or you can spin this another way. In Dana’s last 4 years, he went 3-10 against ranked teams. That’s called regression. Whereas, Rodriguez went 7-5 in his final 4 seasons against ranked teams and 6-3 in his last 3.

There is no need to "SPIN"--that's the point. There is a factual record and that is all that matters. If you need to "spin" it, that means you are trying to twist the facts for an agenda.

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

There is no need to "SPIN"--that's the point. There is a factual record and that is all that matters. If you need to "spin" it, that means you are trying to twist the facts for an agenda.

I gave you the facts off your own data you provided. Dana wasn’t getting it done. He knew it. He even admitted it in the SI article. If WVU wanted to keep him, they would’ve. He asked for an extension and was told no. You can either move on and support Brown or cry like a little girl. Your choice

 

[Buckaineer]

I gave you the facts off your own data you provided. Dana wasn’t getting it done. He knew it. He even admitted it in the SI article. If WVU wanted to keep him, they would’ve. He asked for an extension and was told no. You can either move on and support Brown or cry like a little girl. Your choice

Wasn't getting it done? He finished as the second winningest coach in WVU history, played against the toughest competition ever facing WVU, had to navigate switching to the toughest conference WVU ever played in with a big defecit in depth due to the previous coach, and won the second most number of games against ranked opponents while playing the most highly ranked and ranked opponents ever.

He had a winning record all but one year, competed for the conference championship, had many ranked teams, many NFL players drafted, won a BCS game in historic fashion and had WVU in numerous bowls (want to talk record there look at Nehlen's who is in the HOF).

Unrealistic expectations much?

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

Wasn't getting it done? He finished as the second winningest coach in WVU history, played against the toughest competition ever facing WVU, had to navigate switching to the toughest conference WVU ever played in with a big defecit in depth due to the previous coach, and won the second most number of games against ranked opponents while playing the most highly ranked and ranked opponents ever.

He had a winning record all but one year, competed for the conference championship, had many ranked teams, many NFL players drafted, won a BCS game in historic fashion and had WVU in numerous bowls (want to talk record there look at Nehlen's who is in the HOF).

Unrealistic expectations much?

3-10 against ranked teams in his final 4 seasons. That’s not getting it done. And the famous BCS win was his first year here with Stewart’s players. He never sniffed a BCS appearance again. He was our Larry Coker. His record proves the program was regressing under him. As for your claim of much tougher competition? Your post showed Rodriguez played more ranked teams in less years than Dana. Sorry pal, nobody is drinking your kool aid. In fact you should stop drinking your bath water.

 

[Buckaineer]

3-10 against ranked teams in his final 4 seasons. That’s not getting it done. And the famous BCS win was his first year here with Stewart’s players. He never sniffed a BCS appearance again. He was our Larry Coker. His record proves the program was regressing under him. As for your claim of much tougher competition? Your post showed Rodriguez played more ranked teams in less years than Dana. Sorry pal, nobody is drinking your kool aid. In fact you should stop drinking your bath water.

6 of the 10 losses were top ten teams. Another 3 of those were top 15 squads.

All but a few teams in the country had mostly losses against such a brutal schedule.

Who else in college football beat all those ranked teams, or even played all those highly ranked teams? UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. The only one drinking cool aid is you--you've spiked it with some powerful moonshine thinking WVU is an elite top recruiting program that can just step on the field and win against elite programs.

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

6 of the 10 losses were top ten teams. Another 3 of those were top 15 squads.

All but a few teams in the country had mostly losses against such a brutal schedule.

Who else in college football beat all those ranked teams, or even played all those highly ranked teams? UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. The only one drinking cool aid is you--you've spiked it with some powerful moonshine thinking WVU is an elite top recruiting program that can just step on the field and win against elite programs.

I never said anything about WVU being an elite top recruiting program. I did however prove WVU has fared better against ranked schools than under Dana. Try keeping up

 

[Buckaineer]

I never said anything about WVU being an elite top recruiting program. I did however prove WVU has fared better against ranked schools than under Dana. Try keeping up

You blasted Holgorsen for not winning all the games v. all the elite top ten and top fifteen teams he had to face.

I asked who else in the country did what you blasted him for not doing?

I'll wait for your answer.

I proved Holgorsen faced the most ranked teams ever at WVU and had the most wins against the highest ranked teams ever faced by WVU. You have not addressed that, just tried to illogically spin it away. Only RR beat more ranked teams, but they weren't as highly ranked as the teams DH faced. Not too many people in the college football world are going to give someone more credit for beating UConn, Rutgers, etc. than for beating Baylor(in the stretch where they were great), Texas, OK State, etc. either.

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

You blasted Holgorsen for not winning all the games v. all the elite top ten teams he had to face.

I asked who else in the country did what you blasted him for not doing?

I'll wait for your answer.

I proved Holgorsen faced the most ranked teams ever at WVU and had the most wins against the highest ranked teams ever faced by WVU. You have not addressed that, just tried to illogically spin it away.

Actually your post showed Rodriguez did better against ranked schools and played more. So you defeated yourself

 

[Buckaineer]

Actually your post showed Rodriguez did better against ranked schools and played more. So you defeated yourself

No, my post showed that while Rodriguez defeated more, they weren't as highly ranked as the teams Holgorsen faced. And Holgorsen faced more ranked teams. Also, one of Holgorsen's games against a ranked opponent was cancelled.

I never said RR wasn't a good coach btw--he did great at WVU. YOU said Holgorsen wasn't, and I simply proved how silly and ignorant that lie is. Holgorsen was one of the best coaches ever at WVU and is in the history books as the second winningest coach ever. If you can't comprehend that then too bad. Its true and the evidence proves it.

Still waiting for an answer from you as to what coach in the country did what you blasted Holgorsen for not being able to achieve.

 

[RichardCranium1]

Rich Rodriguez had the benefit of going against teams that didn't have the personnel on the field to stop his offense.
It wasn't until 2005-2006 did teams start adjusting with players who were Juniors and seniors.
Rich Rodriguez along with Bobby Petrino changed the way the Big East played. Schools started recruiting to stop the zone Read.
Teams started going faster and smaller at Defensive end. Linebackers had to keep containment.

Cannot compare the two.

 

[Buckaineer]

Rich Rodriguez had the benefit of going against teams that didn't have the personnel on the field to stop his offense.
It wasn't until 2005-2006 did teams start adjusting with players who were Juniors and seniors.
Rich Rodriguez along with Bobby Petrino changed the way the Big East played. Schools started recruiting to stop the zone Read.
Teams started going faster and smaller at Defensive end. Linebackers had to keep containment.

Cannot compare the two.

Holgorsen had to take WVU from the "Big East"system, with a very limited roster built for that league, into the BIG 12 in year two with all new coaches, venues, style of play and many more elite players than WVU had been facing. And the travel doesn't help WVU win games either.

 

[RichardCranium1]

Excuses are for the weak.
No excuses for Dana and no excuses for Neal Brown.

Dana had a system that the Big 12 was used to but ultimately it was on Dana Holgorsen to win these games. Nothing wrong with having expectations of winning the Big 12. Those are the expectations at WVU and Dana failed. This was why he wasn't extended and moved on. Those expectations are still there for Neal Brown.

 

[Richardcranium2]

Excuses are for the weak.
No excuses for Dana and no excuses for Neal Brown.

Dana had a system that the Big 12 was used to but ultimately it was on Dana Holgorsen to win these games. Nothing wrong with having expectations of winning the Big 12. Those are the expectations at WVU and Dana failed. This was why he wasn't extended and moved on. Those expectations are still there for Neal Brown.

Pretending to be a Texas fan on a wvu message board is for the weak. Why don't you log on with your Townesvanzandt account for the rebuttal.

 

[spartansstink]

Here's a comparison of WVU under DH and RR vs. ranked opponents.

Holgorsen coached 8 years (2011-2018) . RR coached 7 years (2001-2007).

Here are their ranked opponents during that time:

Holgorsen:

2011
W at # 23 Cinci 24-21
L #2 LSU 21-47
W at Orange Bowl
Wvs. #14 Clemson 70-33

2012
L #4 KSU 14-55
L #13 OU 49-50
W #25 Baylor 70-63
W @ #11 Texas 48-45

2013
L @#16 OU 7-16
W #11 OK State 30-21
L @ #17 Baylor 42-73
L #16 TT 27-37

2014
W #4 Baylor 41-27
L N #2 Alabam 23-33
L #12 KSU 20-26

2015
L @#15 OU 24-44
L #21 OSU 26-33
L @#2 Baylor 38-62
L @#5 TCU 10-40

2016
L #8 OU 28-56

2017
W #14 ISU 20-16
L @#8 TCU 24-31
L #11 OSU 39-50
L @#3 OU 31-59

2018
W @#24 TT 42-34
W @#15 Texas 42-41
L #6 OU 56-59
L @ Camping World Bowl
vs. #17 Syracuse

So that is 9 wins against ranked opponents. Total 9-17 vs. rank teams--18 of those teams top 15. Total 26 ranked teams played. Also, Holgorsen lost another chance to play and defeat a ranked team in NC State which wasn't played due to a hurricane in the 2018 season.



and Rich Rodriguez:

2007
L @#18 USF 13 24
W @#25 Rutgers 31 3
W @#21 Cincinnati 28 23
W #20 Uconn 66 21

2006
L @#5 UL 34 44
W #13 Rutgers 41 39

2005
L #3 VT 17 34
W #19 Louisville 46 44
Sugar Bowl
W #8 Georgia 38 35

2004
W #21 Maryland 19 16
L #21 BC 17 36
Gator Bowl
L #17 FSU 18 30

2003
L #21 Wisconsin 17 24
L @#2 Miami 20 22
W #3 VT 28 7
W #16 Pitt 52 31

2002
L @ #25 Wisc 17-34
L #1 Miami 23 40
W @ #13 VT 21 18
W @#17 Pitt 24 17

2001
L #8 VT 0-35
L @#1 Miami 3-45
L @#18 SU 13-24

and that is 11 wins vs. ranked teams. Total 11-12 vs. ranked teams. 10 games against teams ranked in the top 15. RR played 23 ranked teams.


To sum up, RR wins against ranked teams:
#25 Rutgers
#21 Cincinnati
#21 Maryland
#20 Uconn
#19 Lousiville
#17 Pitt
#16 Pitt
#13 VT
#13 Rutgers
#8 Georgia
#3 VT

And DH wins against ranked teams:
#25 Baylor
#24 Texas Tech
#23 Cincinnati
#15 Texas
#14 Clemson
#14 ISU
#11 Texas
#11 OK State
#4 Baylor


Both coaches coached their teams to a BCS win.

Bucky,

A better argument than this is to look at the FINAL rankings rather than the rankings of the team at the time the game was played. For example, VT's #3 ranking for Rod isn't even close to where that team finished the season.

So, you may find teams that SHOULD be on the list but aren't and vice versa. It's really the final rankings that matter anyhow.

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

No, my post showed that while Rodriguez defeated more, they weren't as highly ranked as the teams Holgorsen faced. And Holgorsen faced more ranked teams. Also, one of Holgorsen's games against a ranked opponent was cancelled.

I never said RR wasn't a good coach btw--he did great at WVU. YOU said Holgorsen wasn't, and I simply proved how silly and ignorant that lie is. Holgorsen was one of the best coaches ever at WVU and is in the history books as the second winningest coach ever. If you can't comprehend that then too bad. Its true and the evidence proves it.

Still waiting for an answer from you as to what coach in the country did what you blasted Holgorsen for not being able to achieve.

By your post, you showed us Rodriguez beat 11 ranked teams and Dana beat 9 ranked teams. And you stated Dana coached WVU longer than Rodriguez. Your statistics show us Dana peaked his first year and regressed the program. Whereas Rodriguez was winning at a higher percentage his last 3 years here. That’s progress. Rodriguez last 4 years he won 10 or more games 3 times. He went 7-5 against ranked teams in that time. He went 3-1 in bowls during that time. During Dana’s last 4 years, he went 1-3 in bowls and 3-10 against ranked teams. You can cheer all you want for feasting on mediocre teams, but those are the facts. The guy was mediocre himself. Considering in each coaches last 4 years, Dana played 13 ranked teams and Rodriguez played 12 ranked teams, it’s safe to say the level of competition was roughly the same.

 

[Buckaineer]

By your post, you showed us Rodriguez beat 11 ranked teams and Dana beat 9 ranked teams.

You are leaving out the rest of the information posted. RR beat 11 ranked teams--but the teams he beat were for the most part ranked LOWER than the teams Holgorsen beat. Also, Holgorsen played several more ranked teams and many more highly ranked teams than RR did.

And you stated Dana coached WVU longer than Rodriguez. Your statistics show us Dana peaked his first year and regressed the program.

Doesn't show any such thing. Holgorsen and WVU switched conferences year two and by the end Holgorsen was competing for a conference championship in the BIG 12--a league much tougher than anything Rodriguez coached against in the Big East 2.0 years. Holgorsen won 10 games in 2016 and finished 3rd and 4th the last three years which showed improvement over the early years in the BIG 12. Winning the Big East year one simply shows he was better than Stewart right off the bat.

Whereas Rodriguez was winning at a higher percentage his last 3 years here. That’s progress. Rodriguez last 4 years he won 10 or more games 3 times. He went 7-5 against ranked teams in that time. He went 3-1 in bowls during that time. During Dana’s last 4 years, he went 1-3 in bowls and 3-10 against ranked teams.

Rodriguez had a nice career at WVU his last years. He didn't face schedules like Holgorsen did.

In his last 4 seasons Holgorsen faced 13 ranked programs (and some others very good):

3 ranked top 5- #3 Oklahoma, #5 TCU, #2 Baylor
3 ranked 5-10-- #6 Oklahoma, #8 TCU, #8 OU
4 ranked 10-15--#15 Texas, #11 OSU, #14 ISU, #15 Oklahoma
1 ranked 16-20--#17 Syracuse,
2 ranked 21-25--#24 Texas Tech, #21 OK State

Meanwhile RR faced 12 ranked teams in that time:

2 ranked top 5--#5 UL, #3 VT
1 ranked 5 to 10--#8 Georgia,
1 top 10-15--#13 Rutgers,
4 ranked 16-20--#18 USF, #20 UConn, #19 UL, #17 FSU
4 ranked 21-25--#25 Rutgers , #21 Cincinnati, #21 Maryland, #21 BC

RRs schedules were not nearly as difficult as Holgorsens- and he faced 1 less ranked team during that time.

You can cheer all you want for feasting on mediocre teams, but those are the facts. The guy was mediocre himself. Considering in each coaches last 4 years, Dana played 13 ranked teams and Rodriguez played 12 ranked teams, it’s safe to say the level of competition was roughly the same.

RR feasted on mediocre teams. Holgorsen played mostly ELITE teams. He didn't win all of those, but he didn't lose them all either.

Again, present which coaches in the country played all those ranked teams, played 10 -11P5 programs per year, and won a majority of those games in those years. The same you are trying to bash Holgorsen about. Still waiting.

 

[Mountain Man_rivals148431]

Being Realistic is a lame excuse for settling for 2nd best. Holgs is a good coach. However he isn't the best recruiter and has a coaching philosophy of all O very little D or Special Teams.

 

[Buckaineer]

And the new coaches have yet to show if they can recruit and have a philosophy of 0 offense, 0 defense, 0 special teams.

Holgorsen would have had to change WVU into an elite program to win against opponents people whine about. Its never been at that level even though he tried.

Meanwhile, the new coach is getting blown out by an unranked team that couldnt beat Wyoming and barely got by an fcs team at home.

 

[Back Porch]

That buck-suck is here to pull everybody into troll drum.

 

[Buckaineer]

Its not me who is coaching WVU to a 38-7 blowout loss and has coached up 64 yds rushing for the season despite having a top RB corps returning

 

[WVUALLEN]

Maryland 38 WVU 0
William & Mary 17 WVU 24

wow 2013 sounds a lot like 2019.

Holgorsen vs ranked teams is 10-21 not 9-17

Record: 61-41

Big East Record: 10-3 (5-2)

Big 12 Record: 51-38 (38-32)

Out of Conference Record: 18-6

Record against ranked teams: 10-21

Record in Home Games: 36-16

Record in Neutral Site & Bowl Games: 5-8

Record in Away Games: 20-16

Record Against Old Rivals (Marshall, Pitt, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, & Maryland): 7-5

Record Against Bowl Eligible Teams: 5-2 (2011), 3-6 (2012), 1-6 (2013), 3-6 (2014), 3-5 (2015), 4-3 (2016), 3-6 (2017), 3-4 (2018)

RECRUITING:

Average Class Rank: 38th

Highest Ranked Class: 30 (2013)

Lowest Ranked Class: 57 (2017)

Highest Class Composite Score: 208.32 (2018)

Highest Average Player Score: 86.40 (2018)

Highest Rated High School Recruit: Dante Stills (Class of 2018), 4-star, 0.9467 score

Highest Rated JUCO Recruit: Kyzir White (Class of 2016), 4-star, 0.9010 score

Players Drafted Into NFL: 24

First Round Picks: 4 (Bruce Irvin, Tavon Austin, Kevin White, Karl Joseph)

OFFENSE
Total Points Scored: 3,532

Points Per Game: 34.62

Top Ten Offenses: 2 (2012, 2018)

Top 20 Offenses: 3 (2011, 2012, 2018)

Most Points Scored (game): 70 (vs Clemson - Orange Bowl & vs. Baylor - first Big 12 game)

50+ Point Games: 13

Games Under 20 Points: 15

Largest Margin of Victory: 54-0 vs Towson (2014)

RANKS
Wins: 2nd

Losses: 2nd

Bowl Wins: tied-2nd (Rich Rodriguez & Bill Stewart)

Didn't realize the offense guru had 15 games under 20 points.

Quit masturbating about Holgs. And move on. You're boy friend is Houston. Perhaps cheer for them.

 

[Back Porch]

Holgorsen had to take WVU from the "Big East"system, with a very limited roster built for that league, into the BIG 12 in year two with all new coaches, venues, style of play and many more elite players than WVU had been facing. And the travel doesn't help WVU win games either.

Still a dumb fool. Everybody in gods county knowsHolgorsen had nothing to do with WVU to Big 12.

 

[VaultHunter]

Dana's resume is more impressive.

Give me wins against ranked Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Texas Tech over ranked UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati any day.

Clemson / Georgia is a toss up. Georgia win came at a better time for the program. Clemson win was more fun and more National exposure.

Rich had a weakness against USF. Dana did against K State. Both still beat those programs some.

Rich had worse losses at worse times but not by much. Louisville, USF, Pitt.

Had Miami stayed in the Big East they would have been what Oklahoma was to Dana.

Both are great coaches and had great careers at WVU. Rich took advantage of a G5 caliber conference and built a monster a lot like UCF. Dana built a Big12 program from a G5ish program and always had WVU in the hunt minus one season.

Both gave me some of the best memories as a Mountaineer. People always point to the Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl but for me the 2003 VT game, The Gator Bowl against GT, 2006 Louisville, 2012 Texas, 2018 Texas and Orange Bowl are my favs.

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

Dana's resume is more impressive.

Give me wins against ranked Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Texas Tech over ranked UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati any day.

Clemson / Georgia is a toss up. Georgia win came at a better time for the program. Clemson win was more fun and more National exposure.

Rich had a weakness against USF. Dana did against K State. Both still beat those programs some.

Rich had worse losses at worse times but not by much. Louisville, USF, Pitt.

Had Miami stayed in the Big East they would have been what Oklahoma was to Dana.

Both are great coaches and had great careers at WVU. Rich took advantage of a G5 caliber conference and built a monster a lot like UCF. Dana built a Big12 program from a G5ish program and always had WVU in the hunt minus one season.

Both gave me some of the best memories as a Mountaineer. People always point to the Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl but for me the 2003 VT game, The Gator Bowl against GT, 2006 Louisville, 2012 Texas, 2018 Texas and Orange Bowl are my favs.

lol WVU was never “in the hunt” in the Big 12. Be realistic

 

[WESTBGVA]

Its not me who is coaching WVU to a 38-7 blowout loss and has coached up 64 yds rushing for the season despite having a top RB corps returning

Starting two juco's on the offensive line ,one who's biggest offer was Kansas is not a recipe for a success.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Dana's resume is more impressive.

Give me wins against ranked Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Texas Tech over ranked UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati any day.

Clemson / Georgia is a toss up. Georgia win came at a better time for the program. Clemson win was more fun and more National exposure.

Rich had a weakness against USF. Dana did against K State. Both still beat those programs some.

Rich had worse losses at worse times but not by much. Louisville, USF, Pitt.

Had Miami stayed in the Big East they would have been what Oklahoma was to Dana.

Both are great coaches and had great careers at WVU. Rich took advantage of a G5 caliber conference and built a monster a lot like UCF. Dana built a Big12 program from a G5ish program and always had WVU in the hunt minus one season.

Both gave me some of the best memories as a Mountaineer. People always point to the Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl but for me the 2003 VT game, The Gator Bowl against GT, 2006 Louisville, 2012 Texas, 2018 Texas and Orange Bowl are my favs.

Clemson became national Champions 2 of the past 3 years. WVU and Holgorsen became not much more than a middle of the pack Big 12 team.

WVU always in the hunt until they played the top teams in the conference. 3 straight losses 2017 rinse repeat 2018.

New staff is here get over it move on.

 

[lakeers]

Jesus Christ man, get over it he's gone....you are making this f'n ridiculous, post after post of the same stuff...damn. We get it..you believe Holgo is a superior coach. Well by God, go be a Houston supporter. You make this board hard to read. Get on board with the new regime or GTFO already....

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

Jesus Christ man, get over it he's gone....you are making this f'n ridiculous, post after post of the same stuff...damn. We get it..you believe Holgo is a superior coach. Well by God, go be a Houston supporter. You make this board hard to read. Get on board with the new regime or GTFO already....

Truth is , if Dana was a great coach, he would’ve had P5 schools interested. He didn’t. Fact. He was gonna be fired this year at WVU. So he went to a midmajor with hopes he can use Houston as a stepping stone to get back to the P5.

 

[Buckaineer]

Truth is none of you are WVU fans or maybe even football fans.

As I said, present which coaches coached Holgorsen's schedule the last 4 years and won most of those games.

10-11 P5 games per year plus multiple top ten and 15 teams and some other top 25's.

And a round robin conference schedule on top.

To whine that he didnt win all of these games shows an amazing lack of intelligence. He won the majority of these games and beat some ranked squads along the way. Won 10 games in 2016- a rarity in Morgantown, and finished as the second winningest coach in WVu history.

And to top it off you are now championing someone that just got blown out by a middle of the road team that lost to Wyoming and barely eked out a win over an fcs squad.

You are the ones that need to " get over it". Holgorsen was one of the best coaches ever at WVU. You were all immensely wrong about him and his accomplishments, and now we see just how easy it is for " anyone to step in".

How easy? Looks like WVU may be headed to their worst season in history as the program gets Kragthorped.

 

[Buckaineer]

Truth is , if Dana was a great coach, he would’ve had P5 schools interested. He didn’t. Fact. He was gonna be fired this year at WVU. So he went to a midmajor with hopes he can use Houston as a stepping stone to get back to the P5.

Several P5 schools showed interest in Holgorsen. He got a better financial offer while waiting for the job he wanted-- WVU-- to secure him longer term so he could recruit for you ingrates.

 

[WVUFanForever]

Truth is none of you are WVU fans or maybe even football fans.

Says the assclown obsessed over our FORMER coach.

 

[TheHomelessguy]

LSU was interested but they found out that he was using drugs with people like me and drinking Red Bull by the caseload.

 

[Buckaineer]

In every aspect some people live in fantasyland, no concept of reality-- just baseless vicious lying endlessly:

For example ( something they never provide)
A new report by ESPN’s Adam Rittenbergidentifies a few names that could be on Colorado football’s list to replace Mike MacIntyre.
The biggest name is probably West Virginia’s Dana Holgorsen. Last night’s loss at Oklahoma State aside, the Mountaineers are having a tremendous season and could play for the Big 12 title game.
https://thespun.com/pac-12/colorado...ired-holgorsen-helfrich-babers-tedford-harsin

Dana Holgorsen A Potential Candidate At Oregon?
https://thespun.com/pac-12/oregon/dana-holgorsen-a-potential-candidate-at-oregon

 

[Chazz Michael Michaels]

Buckaneer-
It’s 2 f’n games. He installed a completely new system. You’re giving up on him after 2 games?

How did Dana do in his third year?
0-3 to finish his 7tj and 8th years
0-7 against OU.
Lost 4 of his last 5 bowls.

Its not me who is coaching WVU to a 38-7 blowout loss and has coached up 64 yds rushing for the season despite having a top RB corps returning

 

[Chazz Michael Michaels]

Holgorsen had a contract. He chose to leave.
He didn’t want to be here anymore.

Several P5 schools showed interest in Holgorsen. He got a better financial offer while waiting for the job he wanted-- WVU-- to secure him longer term so he could recruit for you ingrates.

 

[Buckaineer]

People were on Holgorsen before he coached one game, and it continued for 8 years.

His ability to recruit was harmed as was his reputation from a thankless idiot base that cannot understand only a very few schools and coaches accomplished what he did over his time at WVU.
You pretended WVU was elite because Bill Stewart won 9 games against a light schedule.

You pretend its easy to win lots of games when you have poorer facilities than virtually everyone you play and you must beat 9 conference schools per year and one or two other P5s, when many in other P5s never face that many power teams and only have to win against 8 teams in their conference to be successful.

You are so ignorant as to pretend WVU would walk into an elite conference and start drubbing schools like OU and Texas and all the others that have been ranked top five, ten and fifteen.

It isnt realistic. And yet he still beat lots of highly ranked teams against the most difficult schedule WVU ever faced. Of course I support that- Im a WVU fan. not a Bill Stewart worshipper. Not someone who will excuse away one of the worst performances by a coaching staff in America becuase he isnt Dana Holgorsen whom you hated for absurd ignoramous reasons.

WVU was on the verge of being better than ever and now its as though the team never played a down of football. That pisses me off-- none of you even care-- you just hate the second winningest coach ever at WVU( and by putting him and his accomplishments down you put down WVU).

WVU fans-- not one of you.

 

[Buckaineer]

Says the assclown obsessed over our FORMER coach.

Not obsessed- appreciative of the accomplishments and successe he brought WVU as they transitioned into the most difficult schedules ever in WVU history, and won more games than everyone but Nehlen.

Meanwhile you jack@$$es show nothing but contempt for WVU staff, coaches and players and their accomplishments over those years.

And are for some reason allowed to chase off recruits and fans left and right with your idotic relentleess trolling b.s.

Not one of you are WVU fans.