Well I certainly fell for it.

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All the comments and news coming out of the Spring and Summer workouts and then Fall camp was this would be a running team that would lean on the strong part of the team....running backs and an inexperienced, but talented new line.

I bought it hook, line and sinker and must say it was a good strategy to sell tickets for a shallow team with a new coach and approach (which I still like...a lot.) Saw enough to think maybe six wins.

Now, maybe two wins...the squeaker over JMU and Kansas. Worse, this team needs a complete rebuild (kind of like what RR did) to get good. The WVU AD kept preaching it was going to be a long road. I guess I ignored him.

Old football or the modern flag version...if you can't run then you won't be able to pass effectively. Better hope that that the defense becomes fantastic...to keep some fans in the seats.

It is going to be a long year. 64 yds rushing on 56 attempts. will do that do you.
 
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All the comments and news coming out of the Spring and Summer workouts and then Fall camp was this would be a running team that would lean on the strong part of the team....running backs and an experienced, but talented new line.

I bought it hook, line and sinker and must say it was a good strategy to sell tickets for a shallow team with a new coach and approach (which I still like...a lot.) Saw enough to think maybe six wins.

Now, maybe two wins...the squeaker over JMU and Kansas. Worse, this team needs a complete rebuild (kind of like what RR did) to get good. The WVU AD kept preaching it was going to be a long road. I guess I ignored him.

Old football or the modern flag version...if you can't run then you won't be able to pass effectively. Better hope that that the defense becomes fantastic...to keep some fans in the seats.

It is going to be a long year. 64 yds rushing on 56 attempts. will do that do you.

Yeah...

No
 

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RichardCranium1

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That is how you win football games.

Have to throw the ball.
Teams are too talent up front to just run over them especially when you don't have an OLine.

You can call it flag football or you can call in modern football.
NFL teams don't really run the ball like they used to. It is because it isn't the best way to attack a defense. Best way is to get one on one matchups and take advantage of them.
 

spartansstink

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All the comments and news coming out of the Spring and Summer workouts and then Fall camp was this would be a running team that would lean on the strong part of the team....running backs and an experienced, but talented new line.

I bought it hook, line and sinker and must say it was a good strategy to sell tickets for a shallow team with a new coach and approach (which I still like...a lot.) Saw enough to think maybe six wins.

Now, maybe two wins...the squeaker over JMU and Kansas. Worse, this team needs a complete rebuild (kind of like what RR did) to get good. The WVU AD kept preaching it was going to be a long road. I guess I ignored him.

Old football or the modern flag version...if you can't run then you won't be able to pass effectively. Better hope that that the defense becomes fantastic...to keep some fans in the seats.

It is going to be a long year. 64 yds rushing on 56 attempts. will do that do you.

Trust more what you see than what you hear.

The answer to this season was shown to you in the spring game. The offense struggled then also and that shouldn't happen - at least as bad as it did.

What it reminded me of was 2012's spring game. If you recall, we had just come off the Orange Bowl and the GSA trio were going up against the second team defense. It looked like we had just picked up from the Orange Bowl - 3 or 4 plays and a TD. That was expected.

Then, out trotted the second team offense against the first team defense - 3 or 4 plays and a touchdown. Uh-oh. When the same scenario was repeated on the second series, I knew then it was going to be a long year and the lofty rankings weren't going to last.

The answer to both was the same even though the scenarios were different - a loonnng season if you were looking closely enough.
 

JWG66

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All the comments and news coming out of the Spring and Summer workouts and then Fall camp was this would be a running team that would lean on the strong part of the team....running backs and an experienced, but talented new line.

I bought it hook, line and sinker and must say it was a good strategy to sell tickets for a shallow team with a new coach and approach (which I still like...a lot.) Saw enough to think maybe six wins.

Now, maybe two wins...the squeaker over JMU and Kansas. Worse, this team needs a complete rebuild (kind of like what RR did) to get good. The WVU AD kept preaching it was going to be a long road. I guess I ignored him.

Old football or the modern flag version...if you can't run then you won't be able to pass effectively. Better hope that that the defense becomes fantastic...to keep some fans in the seats.It is going to be a long year. 64 yds rushing on 56 attempts. will do that do you.


You were not alone. I thought the new coaches would be able to install their system quickly and with confidence. And that we had enough good players to at least field a good starting 22. And I thought we would be able to run the ball and that AK would at a minimum be effective in the short/intermediate passing game.

But our talent losses were very big and our weakness has been exposed. If AK can get some protection and we can become a decent passing team, we could get a few W's. But I drank the Koolaide too. I have noticed we are still trying to run the ball. DH would have abamndoned that about half way through the JMU game. Agree that its going to be a long year, maybe two.
 

sg44gold

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Power I formation with two TE’s.

And lots of toss sweeps and play action.

We need to allow our o-linemen to attack. I think all the pass blocking in the spread has them on their heels most of the time.
 

WVUALLEN

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Power I formation with two TE’s.

And lots of toss sweeps and play action.

We need to allow our o-linemen to attack. I think all the pass blocking in the spread has them on their heels most of the time.

I agree. That and our center and guards are the worst blockers ever.
 

steeleer

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Power I formation with two TE’s.

And lots of toss sweeps and play action.

We need to allow our o-linemen to attack. I think all the pass blocking in the spread has them on their heels most of the time.


Why stop there? Play to our strength and run the wishbone. Get Johnson from GT (ret) in as a consultant. With our OL we’ll be killin’ it by the time the B12 schedule starts.
 

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All the comments and news coming out of the Spring and Summer workouts and then Fall camp was this would be a running team that would lean on the strong part of the team....running backs and an inexperienced, but talented new line.

I bought it hook, line and sinker and must say it was a good strategy to sell tickets for a shallow team with a new coach and approach (which I still like...a lot.) Saw enough to think maybe six wins.

Now, maybe two wins...the squeaker over JMU and Kansas. Worse, this team needs a complete rebuild (kind of like what RR did) to get good. The WVU AD kept preaching it was going to be a long road. I guess I ignored him.

Old football or the modern flag version...if you can't run then you won't be able to pass effectively. Better hope that that the defense becomes fantastic...to keep some fans in the seats.

It is going to be a long year. 64 yds rushing on 56 attempts. will do that do you.

I think most of us hoped and yes prayed for a little better.
The thing that gets me is that both games at times showed nice holes to run thru, but there was always a LBer waiting, standing flat footed, untouched, waiting for our RB in the middle the hole. McCoy must feel like a soup bone at the local animal shelter.
Kendall and the running backs will not survive this for a season.Sure would like to see a h back/fullback in the backfield leading the way. Have we completed a pass to a to TE ?
 

deedoubleyou

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Quick short passes may be the only way to compensate for the lack of blocking. If Brown keeps doing the same thing all year with no improvement I'll be shocked.
 
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Stop blaming Dana. He's not in Morgantown.

Just pray that Neal can get this train back on the tracks.

I'll be in Mountaineer Field Saturday for the North Carolina State game to see if we go 2-1 or 1-2.
 

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Bottom line is it’s not gonna be a good year from the looks of it over the first two games. Hopefully Brown just starts a rebuild and points the program toward that goal. He will have a few years but the clock has officially started.
 

Rootmaster

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Stop blaming Dana. He's not in Morgantown.

Just pray that Neal can get this train back on the tracks.

I'll be in Mountaineer Field Saturday for the North Carolina State game to see if we go 2-1 or 1-2.

Fakesportswriter...this post shows why so many folks laugh at you. You are clueless. Truly.

First...most frustration with DH is based on the fact that he wrecked the program for years to come by his lack of recruiting and player development.

Second...everyone wants NB to succeed...that means the Mountaineers are too.

Third...we get it...you have a seat in section 105 and will be there wearing your white buck shoes...straw hat...racoon coat...and waving a pom pom.
 

JWG66

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Bottom line is it’s not gonna be a good year from the looks of it over the first two games. Hopefully Brown just starts a rebuild and points the program toward that goal. He will have a few years but the clock has officially started.

Then he may as well start playing more games young guys. Develop some experience particularly on the OL.

One play said a lot to me. The Protection broke down, AK began to scramble, a decent gain seemed possible then out of nowhere he made a desperate pitch to a surprised back. A decent gain turned into a 3 yard loss.

Summary poor blocking, poor decisions and potential squandered. And so it goes.
 
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Elite defense doesn't exist anymore in CFB.

You have to beat teams inside the red zone.
Clemson vs Alabama in the NC. Bama put up the same amount of yards as Clemson but Bama had trouble in the red zone while Clemson did not
Both were considered good defenses but both were torched between the 20's. Difference was like I said red zone efficiency.


The only thing that makes a defense look good is bad playcalling and bad QB play.

Everyone complained about Dana and his inability to play defense. That is football now unless you want to play sorry teams that can't move the ball.

Teams with close to 8-10 future NFL players are getting torched now.
That is just what is going on until the blueprint how to stop these offenses work.
 

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All the comments and news coming out of the Spring and Summer workouts and then Fall camp was this would be a running team that would lean on the strong part of the team....running backs and an inexperienced, but talented new line.

I bought it hook, line and sinker and must say it was a good strategy to sell tickets for a shallow team with a new coach and approach (which I still like...a lot.) Saw enough to think maybe six wins.

Now, maybe two wins...the squeaker over JMU and Kansas. Worse, this team needs a complete rebuild (kind of like what RR did) to get good. The WVU AD kept preaching it was going to be a long road. I guess I ignored him.

Old football or the modern flag version...if you can't run then you won't be able to pass effectively. Better hope that that the defense becomes fantastic...to keep some fans in the seats.

It is going to be a long year. 64 yds rushing on 56 attempts. will do that do you.
The problem with media today is we have become accustomed to hearing what we want to hear. It started with cable news Fox,CNN,MSNBC and it has spread from news sports, Home design etc etc etc. I remember an article a few weeks back on here that talked about the Oline getting better. The article might have been right but there was no elaboration on what getting better meant. We could have been god awful in the spring and just went to being awful in the fall. Which technically is an improvement. They also don't really tell you how you stack up against the rest of the field. Most of the prognosticators that I give the most credence to predicted that we would struggle in 2019. I hope for the best but I was prepared for the worse. What were seeing is what I expected.
 

RichardCranium1

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Phil Steele had this team where it should be 8th or 9th.
The problem is that Kansas State isn't as bad as most thought. They had some pieces at QB and on the OLine.
2 of the teams with new coaches are looking very good but they both had returning QBs.
The other two do not and have stumbled out of the gate. Truthfully the games haven't even started. Being competitive against K State, Baylor and Texas Tech is what is needed.
 

Darth_VadEER

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Phil Steele had this team where it should be 8th or 9th.
The problem is that Kansas State isn't as bad as most thought. They had some pieces at QB and on the OLine.
2 of the teams with new coaches are looking very good but they both had returning QBs.
The other two do not and have stumbled out of the gate. Truthfully the games haven't even started. Being competitive against K State, Baylor and Texas Tech is what is needed.

You and TVZ seem to share an odd similarity in your grammar.....you both continually use the word "truthfully" when beginning a sentence and its a complete tell on your end.

For anyone who hasnt spotted it, take a look for yourselves. It is not a coincedence.
 

RichardCranium1

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You and TVZ seem to share an odd similarity in your grammar.....you both continually use the word "truthfully" when beginning a sentence and its a complete tell on your end.

For anyone who hasnt spotted it, take a look for yourselves. It is not a coincedence.

Still mad about your Jason Voorhees account.
 

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Yes sireeeeee..…………….beat'em in the Red Zone! Run or pass the ball til you get in the Red Zone and then …………….beat'em in the Red Zone! You would think Coach Brown would know this. But apparently he doesn't!
 

Richardcranium2

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Still mad about your Jason Voorhees account.
For someone who's life revolves around posting on a message board you should have known better. When people start threads calling someone out for being a troll it usually doesn't go well for them. You're finding this out yourself. The problem for is you're a troll as well and everyone knows it. Its time to stop doubling and tripling down on your fake Texas persona. You're not fooling anyone. You must be butt hurt that buckaineer is sucking all the oxygen up these days. Im sure you would love the attention he's getting. He just beat you to the punch. Not only do you share the same grammar style as TVZ you also seem to show up around midnight. Its funny you share the same posting habits. Maybe its time for one your Greg Jacobs threads. See if this can get you out of this one. GTFO you Troll.
 

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You and TVZ seem to share an odd similarity in your grammar.....you both continually use the word "truthfully" when beginning a sentence and its a complete tell on your end.

For anyone who hasnt spotted it, take a look for yourselves. It is not a coincedence.

Who cares. This is not English Comp class.
 

Darth_VadEER

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Who cares. This is not English Comp class.

The point is that it is an obvious indicator the accounts are controlled by the same person.

Look through their posts, they both repeatedly use "truthfully" when beginning sentences. Both at an unusual rate of use. Its obvious.
 

RichardCranium1

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The point is that it is an obvious indicator the accounts are controlled by the same person.

Look through their posts, they both repeatedly use "truthfully" when beginning sentences. Both at an unusual rate of use. Its obvious.

No one cares Jason Voorhees. Go log onto your other account and like your post.
 

Darth_VadEER

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No one cares Jason Voorhees. Go log onto your other account and like your post.

Truthfully I assume thats probably one of your other aliases here. Besides for the Friday the 13th reference, I dont know what thats suppose to mean.

Truthfully we all know you and TVZ are the same person so your time is up.

Truthfully it wasn't very hard to figure out.
 

RichardCranium1

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Truthfully I assume thats probably one of your other aliases here. Besides for the Friday the 13th reference, I dont know what thats suppose to mean.

Truthfully we all know you and TVZ are the same person so your time is up.

Truthfully it wasn't very hard to figure out.

You still don't get it.
You are responding because I pulled the covers on your alter.
Can get piss off and accuse me of being this person or that it doesn't matter.
The fact that you are responding is just enough.
 

Darth_VadEER

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You still don't get it.
You are responding because I pulled the covers on your alter.
Can get piss off and accuse me of being this person or that it doesn't matter.
The fact that you are responding is just enough.

Lol, no one is buying your crap.

Let Vernon check the IPs. This is the only handle I post under. I dont even recall seeing the handle youre referring too.

No one believes you, so save your breath.
 

RichardCranium1

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Lol, no one is buying your crap.

Let Vernon check the IPs. This is the only handle I post under. I dont even recall seeing the handle youre referring too.

No one believes you, so save your breath.

Good for you.
But you seem to want to protect yourself while I don't care who you think I am. You could call me any poster or former poster and I wouldn't give a f**k.

But you Colorado Mountaineer are a little thin skinned and reacted rather oddly when I exposed Jason Voorhees.
 

Darth_VadEER

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Good for you.
But you seem to want to protrct yourself while I don't care who you think I am. You could call me any poster or former poster and I wouldn't give a f**k.

But you Colorado Mountaineer are a little thin skinned and reacted rather oddly when I exposed Jason Voorhees.

Ive never mentioned him. I don't know him.

Colorado Mountaineer and I use to argue here all the time.

Its not my opinion. You are TVZ. You got caught slipping, just accept it Townes.

Vernon can run my IP. I'm not the one playing silly games.
 

Darth_VadEER

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Lol truthfully....its funny you never noticed your OBVIOUS tell.

Nobody else talks like that here.

Just move on. Youre caught.
 

RichardCranium1

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Caught at what? Screwing your wife.

You must really be a mental midget to think you caught me at something.
You didn't have to stop posting as Jason Voorhees. You made that choice.

You haven't done anything yet to stop me from posting and there is nothing you can do.

Who else are you going to accuse me of being?
 

RichardCranium1

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Dealing with retards.

Normal people don't out of the blue go after someone.
After I exposed Jason Voorhees you came after me.
Connect the dots. You are attempting to make me stop posting on this board.
Nice try but will not work.

Causation.
Learn about it. Everything happens for a reason and people usually show who they are by their actions.
Just have to drop the bait.
 

Darth_VadEER

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Caught at what? Screwing your wife.

You must really be a mental midget to think you caught me at something.
You didn't have to stop posting as Jason Voorhees. You made that choice.

You haven't done anything yet to stop me from posting and there is nothing you can do.

Who else are you going to accuse me of being?

You can post here all you want. That isnt up to me.

I dont know what other screen names you have. Right now I know you have two...Richardcranium/TVZ. You gave yourself away with those two.

No one is believing the rest of your sillyness.
 

Darth_VadEER

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Dealing with retards.

Normal people don't out of the blue go after someone.
After I exposed Jason Voorhees you came after me.
Connect the dots. You are attempting to make me stop posting on this board.
Nice try but will not work.

Causation.
Learn about it. Everything happens for a reason and people usually show who they are by their actions.
Just have to drop the bait.

You seem hysterical Townes.

Youre busted.

No one believes the rest of your crap.

I "came after" you because it was plainly obvious that you are posting under two names. You left a fingerprint. Sorry, but it was hard NOT to notice.

You can post here all you want for as long as you can. We just all now know you have been a liar.
 

RichardCranium1

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Who cares if I am TVZ.
Does it really matter.

That is how stupid you are. Accusing me of being this person isn't enough.

The reason you want to accuse me of being this person is...

Why didn't this happen 4 days ago.
It happened 30 minutes after I exposed Jason Voorhees.

Not real smart there, buddy.
Should have came after me with your other account
 

Darth_VadEER

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Who cares if I am TVZ.
Does it really matter.

That is how stupid you are. Accusing me of being this person isn't enough.

The reason you want to accuse me of being this person is...

Why didn't this happen 4 days ago.
It happened 30 minutes after I exposed Jason Voorhees.

Not real smart there, buddy.
Should have came after me with your other account

Because I didn't notice your tell until last night. Re-read your posts...and you'll see it.

Then you showed your hand again today.

I did it because you made it easy.

But to answer your question, no it doesnt really matter. I just supplied the truth. Obviously, it matters to you.