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WVUALLEN said:
For football that is...

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sp...nference-uconn-football-expansion/1553756001/

While the Huskies leaving for the Big East Conference diminishes the AAC's basketball brand, the conference will likely remain at 11 football-member schools because, despite speculation among national media outlets about potential additions on the gridiron, there doesn’t appear to be a school that would agree to join and add value to the league.
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Sounds like this is not good news for little brother in Huntington. No million dollar TV contracts in their future anytime soon.
 
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That's just one sportswriter's opinion. It is still up in the air what the AAC is going to do. Losing Connecticut doesn't hurt the league at all. Their best team was women's basketball.
 
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Tylerite said:
That's just one sportswriter's opinion. It is still up in the air what the AAC is going to do. Losing Connecticut doesn't hurt the league at all. Their best team was women's basketball.
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Lol Uconn won a mens basketball title a few years ago....dont be silly. It was their most prominant name.
 
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The reporter mentioned they would not replace for football but that basketball only might be the option. Wichita State is a member for basketball only. Not sure how many schools have a basketball only with lower division football or no football that would fit the AAC.

Some options for Basketball only
Cleveland State
Little Rock Arkansas
Quinnipiac
South Carolina State
Winthorp
Wright State
VCU
UNC Wilmington
Northern Kentucky
Boston University
Belmont
North Florida
Northeastern

These are all DI schools without football. Some are in decent conferences already. Some would welcome the move. There are others but lot of them were California, Utah and the like.
 
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There was talk on espnu radio that BYU and Army are candidates to replace UConn in football, but the conversation turned to how Navy might be interested in going back to independent due to Army’s resurgence in football as an independent and being able to hand pick their schedule.
 
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The AAC will have to expand by one team or give up their CCG.

NCAA rule changes made for the BIG 12 state that you must either have a round robin, or divisions with round robin within those divisions in order to play a CCG.

In order to play round robin, an 11 team conference would need a 10 game conference slate--leaving only 2 OOC games.

Since their CCG allows them to make it to the NY6 game several years its unlikely they'll give it up and reduce their chances.
 
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WVUALLEN said:
2013 when Big east fell apart to form the AAC. Big East kept basketball sued to keep Big East name.

Big East Basketball....
https://www.bigeast.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball

Villanova
Marquette
Seton Hall
Georgetown
Creighton
Xavier
St. John's
Providence
DePaul
Butler

Now Connecticut makes 11 schools. Will Big East add another team to make it 12?
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I believe I heard or read that their intention is to stay at 11 and go to a 20 game schedule where they play each team, 10 home and 10 away.
 
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I believe I heard or read that their intention is to stay at 11 and go to a 20 game schedule where they play each team, 10 home and 10 away.
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That is basketball. In football a 10 game conference schedule means you have only two OOC games. The AAC schools need high profile OOC games to have a shot at playoffs.
Probably need the gate from an OOC home game too. Hard to see them giving that up.

Will be surprising then to see them eliminate one of those games for a 10 game football schedule.
 
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doneagain said:
I believe I heard or read that their intention is to stay at 11 and go to a 20 game schedule where they play each team, 10 home and 10 away.
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Buckaineer said:
That is basketball. In football a 10 game conference schedule means you have only two OOC games. The AAC schools need high profile OOC games to have a shot at playoffs.
Probably need the gate from an OOC home game too. Hard to see them giving that up.

Will be surprising then to see them eliminate one of those games for a 10 game football schedule.
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The Football side could go to 4 OOC games and only 8 conference games.
 
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WVUALLEN said:
2013 when Big east fell apart to form the AAC. Big East kept basketball sued to keep Big East name.

Big East Basketball....
https://www.bigeast.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball

Villanova
Marquette
Seton Hall
Georgetown
Creighton
Xavier
St. John's
Providence
DePaul
Butler

Now Connecticut makes 11 schools. Will Big East add another team to make it 12?
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Big East is overrated and in desperate need for an added brand like UCONN. Take out Villanova and their NCAA performance as a Conference is very underwhelming. The teams making the NCAAs now from the Big East we’re pedestrian before the legit Big East imploded. Even Nova sucked half the time.
 
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Buckaineer said:
That is basketball. In football a 10 game conference schedule means you have only two OOC games. The AAC schools need high profile OOC games to have a shot at playoffs.
Probably need the gate from an OOC home game too. Hard to see them giving that up.

Will be surprising then to see them eliminate one of those games for a 10 game football schedule.
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I was talking about the Big East and their basketball scheduling.
 
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The AAC will have to expand by one team or give up their CCG.

NCAA rule changes made for the BIG 12 state that you must either have a round robin, or divisions with round robin within those divisions in order to play a CCG.

In order to play round robin, an 11 team conference would need a 10 game conference slate--leaving only 2 OOC games.

Since their CCG allows them to make it to the NY6 game several years its unlikely they'll give it up and reduce their chances.
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So under your logic...the Big 12-2=10 conference shouldn't be allowed to have the automatic repeat game championship game lol.
 
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Isn't it clear by now that the G5 schools are not capable to competing on the same level as P5 schools? It is far past time to split these two groups up into different competitive divisions.
 
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The teams making the NCAAs now from the Big East we’re pedestrian before the legit Big East imploded. Even Nova sucked half the time.
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Nova was far away from sucking. Every era Nova has had winning seasons. You must be confusing them with Providence or something.

Villinova with Jay Wright for 18 years...448–175
Nova has been to NCAA's 14 times and NIT 3 times of those 18 years.


2001–2004 Seasons: NIT
2004–05 Season: Sweet Sixteen
2005–06 Season: Elite Eight
2006–07 Season: Second Round
2007–08 Season: Sweet Sixteen
2008–09 Season: Final Four
2009–10: Second Round Upset
2010–11: Second Round Upset
2011–12: Losing Season
2012–13: Return to the Tournament
2013–14: Second Round Upset
2014–15: Second Round Upset
2015–16: National Champions
2016–17: Second Round Upset
2017–18: Second National Championship

Nova has won 3 Championships 1985, 2016, 2018

NCAA Tournament record of 65-37

Villanova began its varsity basketball program in 1920.

1920-1926 - Michael Saxe compiled a 64–30 record

1926-1929 - John Cashman 21-26 record

1929-1936 - George Jacobs coached 7 seasons and compiled a 62-56

1931-1961 - Al Severance compiled a 413–201 record

1961-1973 - Jack Kraft coached Villanova for 12 years. He compiled a 238–95 record

1973-1992 - Massimino coached for 19 seasons at Villanova, compiling a record of 357–241. In the NCAA Tournament, Massimino had a 20–10 record.

1992-2001 - Steve Lappas compiled a very respectable record of 174–110 during his years at Villanova.

Nova has done nothing but win for 100 years. All-time record 1,779–935
 
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Rootmaster said:
So under your logic...the Big 12-2=10 conference shouldn't be allowed to have the automatic repeat game championship game lol.
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? I know you don't use logic, but surely even you realize the BIG 12 got a rules change with the NCAA to allow a 10 team league to have a CCG. The requirement for doing so means they MUST play a round robin (which they do--each school plays the other 9). And then have the best two schools match up in the conference CCG. Or they could have formed two equal divisions and had the division winners match up.

And this is where things for the AAC get tricky--they'll have 11 teams, not 10, without UConn. They can't form equal 6 team divisions, so they'd have to have round robin play to still have a CCG. That means a 10 game schedule IN conference for all teams. Not the same as the BIG 12 at all which plays 9 games in round robin in the conference.
 
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Boomerwv said:
Isn't it clear by now that the G5 schools are not capable to competing on the same level as P5 schools? It is far past time to split these two groups up into different competitive divisions.
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? Guess you missed two undefeated UCF seasons, one where they beat the best team in the SEC in a major bowl (weren't allowed to compete for MNC), or last year where they ended with just one loss? Not to mention the numerous other P5s that these G5 defeat.

Money is the only place they haven't competed because an artificial limit has been set on their heads by those who wish to exclude them from competition.

Never understood how anyone would think its great an undefeated team woulndn't even get a shot at an MNC because---uh, well---uh, .. cause whoever says they don't deserve a shot cause they dont want them to have a shot. Un American at its finest.
 
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? Guess you missed two undefeated UCF seasons, one where they beat the best team in the SEC in a major bowl (weren't allowed to compete for MNC), or last year where they ended with just one loss? Not to mention the numerous other P5s that these G5 defeat.

Money is the only place they haven't competed because an artificial limit has been set on their heads by those who wish to exclude them from competition.

Never understood how anyone would think its great an undefeated team woulndn't even get a shot at an MNC because---uh, well---uh, .. cause whoever says they don't deserve a shot cause they dont want them to have a shot. Un American at its finest.
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Oh please with UCF. Let them try to compete when playing P5 programs weekly. Wins in a bowl game are not the same as wins coming during the regular season.
 
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There is a lot to like with UCF.
They are an American University...
They want to be the top University in sports and academics in Florida.
Unlike other states that is possible but their problem is that people are seeing them as a threat.
Especially Florida.


UCF's Capital One finish was on the level of WV.
Meaning 8th in the Big 12 but their facilities are horrible.
They are a G5 team with P5 aspirations.
West Virginia should know this because they still have the worst facilities in the Big 12.
UCF needs the money to fix their facilities but problem is they don't have that. They have to rely on TV money.

Most of the big schools don't rely on TV money
Stanford especially
 
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WVUALLEN said:
Nova was far away from sucking. Every era Nova has had winning seasons. You must be confusing them with Providence or something.

Villinova with Jay Wright for 18 years...448–175
Nova has been to NCAA's 14 times and NIT 3 times of those 18 years.


2001–2004 Seasons: NIT
2004–05 Season: Sweet Sixteen
2005–06 Season: Elite Eight
2006–07 Season: Second Round
2007–08 Season: Sweet Sixteen
2008–09 Season: Final Four
2009–10: Second Round Upset
2010–11: Second Round Upset
2011–12: Losing Season
2012–13: Return to the Tournament
2013–14: Second Round Upset
2014–15: Second Round Upset
2015–16: National Champions
2016–17: Second Round Upset
2017–18: Second National Championship

Nova has won 3 Championships 1985, 2016, 2018

NCAA Tournament record of 65-37

Villanova began its varsity basketball program in 1920.

1920-1926 - Michael Saxe compiled a 64–30 record

1926-1929 - John Cashman 21-26 record

1929-1936 - George Jacobs coached 7 seasons and compiled a 62-56

1931-1961 - Al Severance compiled a 413–201 record

1961-1973 - Jack Kraft coached Villanova for 12 years. He compiled a 238–95 record

1973-1992 - Massimino coached for 19 seasons at Villanova, compiling a record of 357–241. In the NCAA Tournament, Massimino had a 20–10 record.

1992-2001 - Steve Lappas compiled a very respectable record of 174–110 during his years at Villanova.

Nova has done nothing but win for 100 years. All-time record 1,779–935
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How many times did Nova finish Big East Top 4 regular season from say 1990 to 2020? Who said they totally sucked? You making stuff up again haha!!! Common for this place.
 
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Doesn't matter where they finished. What matters is making the dance. Which they have done 25 times 1990 - 2020.
 
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Boomerwv said:
Because one team is generally in give a **** mode for that game. The stakes arent there. They are a consolation prize outside of the playoffs
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UCFs win over Auburn?

Motivation doesn't determine winners and losers.
If that was the case you would see FCS teams beat FBS teams.
Who gets exited for Northwestern State or Central Arkansas.

Auburn had major issues that UCF took advantage of in the game.

UCF is a quality football team. At least has been the last couple of years.
UCF, though, can't go undefeated in a P5 conference. Their C game isn't that good. Everyone plays a C game once or twice a year.

More than that there are teams who would take advantage of your weaknesses in a P5 conference.



Problem for UCF is this...
They are not on an equal footing with any of the P5 schools in Florida
Their facilities are horrible
Their recruiting hasn't really improved.

But UCF has a high ceiling.
Florida is a transplant state. The football market isn't fully cut up yet.


Truthfully the state I see another P5 school coming from is Georgia.
Georgia Southern is the school to watch but they just don't have the propaganda machine like UCF.
UCF wants to be big and they pay people to troll social media.

Keep on discussing UCF and they will show up like the zombie apocalypse
 
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TownesVanZandt said:
There is a lot to like with UCF.
They are an American University...
They want to be the top University in sports and academics in Florida.
Unlike other states that is possible but their problem is that people are seeing them as a threat.
Especially Florida.


UCF's Capital One finish was on the level of WV.
Meaning 8th in the Big 12 but their facilities are horrible.
They are a G5 team with P5 aspirations.
West Virginia should know this because they still have the worst facilities in the Big 12.
UCF needs the money to fix their facilities but problem is they don't have that. They have to rely on TV money.

Most of the big schools don't rely on TV money
Stanford especially
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And WVU’s facilities are still far better than UCF’s. So because Shane Lyons said our stadium is the worst in the B12, which you only know anything about because you read it here, it means all our facilities are skid row level. The worst in the B12 doesn’t mean it’s a trash pile, genius, it only means the other programs have improved more recently on a better level. No P5 program facilities are a dumpster fire. I have been to numerous other P5 school venues and they all look pretty good. That isn’t something I googled, I know from firsthand experience.

But go ahead and interpret Lyons’s comments to mean our stadium is falling apart and compare it to the erector set facility of UCF.
 
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So basically what TVZ is saying is he will create a new profile pretending to be a UCF fan.
 
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And WVU’s facilities are still far better than UCF’s. So because Shane Lyons said our stadium is the worst in the B12, which you only know anything about because you read it here, it means all our facilities are skid row level. The worst in the B12 doesn’t mean it’s a trash pile, genius, it only means the other programs have improved more recently on a better level. No P5 program facilities are a dumpster fire. I have been to numerous other P5 school venues and they all look pretty good. That isn’t something I googled, I know from firsthand experience.

But go ahead and interpret Lyons’s comments to mean our stadium is falling apart and compare it to the erector set facility of UCF.
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Who said they are not. Never said WVs facilities are similar to UCF but said that UCF'S are horrible.
Said WV should know the difference between G5 and P5 coming from the Big East.
TCU threw a lot of money at theirs


I said something about WV four to five months ago and upset a few people.
It isn't just your Stadium it is all your facilities.
Dana Holgersen told this to Houston. This is how I know. He said he was happy to have the AD and boosters who would give him anything he wants.
 
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Rootmaster said:
And that is precisely the growing problem with college football...thus falling attendance and a looming TV revenue disaster.
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TV revenue doesn't mean anything at some schools.
Look at Stanford.

Stanford sets up individual endowments for their athletic teams.
That money is then reinvested by their money managers. When someone donates money to Stanford it is not spent at first.
This is why they finish first in the Capital One Cup and since the early 1980's been by far the best athletic department.

Their TV money isn't great.

Even if TV money falls you still see divisions in college sports.
Anyone who thinks automatically a school like Stanford would be even with some CUSA school has no idea about college athletics.
 
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TownesVanZandt said:
Who said they are not. Never said WVs facilities are similar to UCF but said that UCF'S are horrible.
Said WV should know the difference between G5 and P5 coming from the Big East.
TCU threw a lot of money at theirs


I said something about WV four to five months ago and upset a few people.
It isn't just your Stadium it is all your facilities.
Dana Holgersen told this to Houston. This is how I know. He said he was happy to have the AD and boosters who would give him anything he wants.
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I doubt you've ever been to either campus.

Its obvious you never leave your home.
 
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Why is this even debatable?
Does this change the opinions of people.
Shouldn't because even your AD acknowledges the facts

You have to understand the mentality of Texas and even Oklahoma. All these schools in this part of the country have the same mentality.

Texans are what they call wildcatters.
Big balls. It is a blending of different cultures that causes this.
Most universities in Texas have a great blend of old money and new. Some schools more than others but even Cougar High has people willing to act like a SWC school.
 
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