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Is lying under oath perjury?

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Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch has flatly accused former FBI Director James Comey of mischaracterizing her statements by repeatedly alleging, under oath, that Lynch privately instructed him to call the Hillary Clinton email probe a "matter" instead of an "investigation."

Lynch, who testified that Comey's claim left her "quite surprised," made the dramatic remarks at a joint closed-door session of the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees last December. A transcript of her testimony was released on Monday by House Judiciary Committee ranking member Doug Collins, R-Ga.
In a June 2017 interview under oath with the House Intelligence Committee, Comey said Lynch had pressed him to downplay the significance of the Clinton email review in September 2015, just before a congressional hearing in which Comey was expected to be asked about the investigation.
“The attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter, which confused me and concerned me," Comey testified.

But in her testimony in December, Lynch said Comey had completely mischaracterized the situation. "I did not," Lynch responded when asked if she had "ever" told Comey to call the investigation a "matter."
 
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bornaneer said:
Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch has flatly accused former FBI Director James Comey of mischaracterizing her statements by repeatedly alleging, under oath, that Lynch privately instructed him to call the Hillary Clinton email probe a "matter" instead of an "investigation."

Lynch, who testified that Comey's claim left her "quite surprised," made the dramatic remarks at a joint closed-door session of the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees last December. A transcript of her testimony was released on Monday by House Judiciary Committee ranking member Doug Collins, R-Ga.
In a June 2017 interview under oath with the House Intelligence Committee, Comey said Lynch had pressed him to downplay the significance of the Clinton email review in September 2015, just before a congressional hearing in which Comey was expected to be asked about the investigation.
“The attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter, which confused me and concerned me," Comey testified.

But in her testimony in December, Lynch said Comey had completely mischaracterized the situation. "I did not," Lynch responded when asked if she had "ever" told Comey to call the investigation a "matter."
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Both are lying. She was promised the SC position in that tarmac meeting if she squelched the comey investigation. He's lied so much, you have plenty to choose from. It's only going to get worse as they are called in to testify.
 
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Airport said:
Both are lying. She was promised the SC position in that tarmac meeting if she squelched the comey investigation. He's lied so much, you have plenty to choose from. It's only going to get worse as they are called in to testify.
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:joy::joy::joy:
 
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WVUCOOPER said:
It can be. It's not a black or white. Yes or no.
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Yes.....I see what you mean.......When Trump speaks while NOT under oath......CNN,MSNBC,WP and TNYT call it lies......But when Comey and Lynch are caught on the record telling a lie while under oath......it's just a "mischaracterization".
 
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bornaneer said:
Yes.....I see what you mean.......When Trump speaks while NOT under oath......CNN,MSNBC,WP and TNYT call it lies......But when Comey and Lynch are caught on the record telling a lie while under oath......it's just a "mischaracterization".
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Uh oh. Sounds like someone is so butthurt they are about to cry. Poor wittle guy.
 
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TarHeelEer said:
Do you have to wonder why people think you're a lib around here?
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I don't wonder at all. Trump swallowing dumb dumbs hijacked a term and call anyone that dare questions their Dear leader a lib. It's really easy. I'll be right back to being called a a heartless conservative once this blight leaves office.
 
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WVUCOOPER said:
Then what's the hold up with locking him or her up? You have all the facts. What is Barr waiting on?
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You're the one that wants someone locked up.....not me. I just asked a question....didn't mean to get you all bent out of shape over it.
 
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WVUCOOPER said:
I don't wonder at all. Trump swallowing dumb dumbs hijacked a term and call anyone that dare questions their Dear leader a lib. It's really easy. I'll be right back to being called a a heartless conservative once this blight leaves office.
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Wrong, right now you have one set of standards for Trump, and different for everyone else. TDS has afflicted you greatly.
 
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TarHeelEer said:
Wrong, right now you have one set of standards for Trump, and different for everyone else. TDS has afflicted you greatly.
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lol. Yes....I'm the one with switching standards. :joy::joy::joy:


Meanwhile, on one hand you Trumpers argue that Trump can do what He wants as the President, but Obama is treasonous for "spying". Amash is a lib. Congressional oversight is so mean. Spending and debt mean nothing. Etc. Etc. Etc
 
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bornaneer said:
I didn't like or dislike your anwser......I knew how you would answer before I posted the question. You came through right on cue.
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Oh wow. Well played puppet master! You are the bestest. That was a Hans type beat down.
 
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lol. Yes....I'm the one with switching standards. :joy::joy::joy:


Meanwhile, on one hand you Trumpers argue that Trump can do what He wants as the President, but Obama is treasonous for "spying". Amash is a lib. Congressional oversight is so mean. Spending and debt mean nothing. Etc. Etc. Etc
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You need to take a break.......You are losing all your credibility. No one has said Trump can do whatever he wants.
 
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bornaneer said:
You need to take a break.......You are losing all your credibility. No one has said Trump can do whatever he wants.
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I'm losing message board credibility? Oh boy. lol. You Trumpers only care about what He says anyway.
 
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WVUCOOPER said:
lol. Yes....I'm the one with switching standards. :joy::joy::joy:


Meanwhile, on one hand you Trumpers argue that Trump can do what He wants as the President, but Obama is treasonous for "spying". Amash is a lib. Congressional oversight is so mean. Spending and debt mean nothing. Etc. Etc. Etc
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Use your old search button and see where I stated any of those.

Hint> You won't find it.
 
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lol. Yes....I'm the one with switching standards. :joy::joy::joy:


Meanwhile, on one hand you Trumpers argue that Trump can do what He wants as the President, but Obama is treasonous for "spying". Amash is a lib. Congressional oversight is so mean. Spending and debt mean nothing. Etc. Etc. Etc
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Stop crying. Its just damn pathetic.
 
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Rybicki backs up Comey. Oh dear, poor Loretta.

Mr. Parmiter. You were in the meeting with the Director when he was told by Attorney General Lynch to call the Clinton email investigation a "matter." Is that correct?
Mr. Rybicki. That's correct.
Mr. Parmiter. When did this meeting occur?
Mr. Rybicki. My recollection is fall of 2015. I don't remember the exact date. I do remember that both the Director and Attorney General Lynch had Hill appearances coming up, and that's what prompted the meeting.
Mr. Parmiter. By Hill appearances you mean testimony before congressional committees?
Mr. Rybicki. That's my recollection, yes.
Mr. Parmiter. And where the did the meeting occur?
Mr. Rybicki. At the Department of Justice command center.
Mr. Parmiter. Okay. Who else was present at that meeting?
Mr. Rybicki. Again, I don't remember all of the folks. Certainly the Director and the Attorney General, Attorney General Lynch. Again, my recollection is that AG's office and Deputy Attorney General's office staff were there. I don't recall whether the Deputy Attorney General was present. I was present. I don't recall who else from the FBI was present. It is likely the Deputy Director was there. Again, I just don't recall at this time.
Mr. Breitenbach. Is this a different meeting from the one you previously described where you were discussing whether to disclose the investigation or is this the same meeting?
Mr. Rybicki. I was thinking of it as the same meeting.
Mr. Parmiter. So that is the same meeting where you discussed whether to disclose the existence of an investigation and then the matter?
Mr. Rybicki. Yes. Again, I think it is likely that, you know, there are other discussions about whether to disclose that. This is the one I'm remembering, though, and especially because my recollection is that we thought that both of them may be asked about it, and, you know, how would we respond, how would they respond.
Mr. Parmiter. So did the Attorney General direct the Director to call it a "matter" because of the congressional testimony, or in connection with his congressional testimony, or just generally speaking?
Mr. Rybicki. I would say just generally speaking. Yes, I don't recall the specific words used, but I would say just generally.
Mr. Parmiter. Okay. And how did the Director react to that directive?
Mr. Rybicki. Sure. I think in the meeting I don't recall his reaction. I remember discussing afterwards with him, and I don't know if that was one-on-one, or with others at the FBI, just that that would be given what had been disclosed already about it that that would be a very hard line to hold.
Mr. Parmiter. And do you recall saying anything specific to him about the characterization, you know, of the investigation as a matter following that meeting, and whether or not you should push back against the Attorney General's directive?
Mr. Rybicki. I don't recall.
Mr. Parmiter. Do you recall anyone else saying anything to him about that?
Mr. Rybicki. I don't recall. Again, I remember having discussions about it and, again, most likely with others in the FBI, I just don't recall if there were discussions about whether to push back or not.
Mr. Parmiter. In your experience as chief of staff, I imagine you have witnessed a lot of investigations proceed from the FBI. Are you aware of any other instances where the Attorney General or anyone else from DOJ directed the FBI to refer to an investigation as anything other than an investigation?
Mr. Rybicki. I'm not.
Mr. Parmiter. Okay. Do you know what the other DOJ personnel's opinion of the Attorney General's directive was, particularly someone like George Toscas?
Mr. Rybicki. Certainly. I remember a sort of quip that he said after the meeting that could indicate what he thought of it.
Mr. Parmiter. What was the quip?
Mr. Rybicki. It was basically -- and I don't know if this is verbatim, but it was basically I guess you're the Federal Bureau of matters now
 
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