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Keyser76

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Lol, Donnies lil girls afraid to see what is in their heroes tax returns, ya'll ain't as deplorable as ya are hypocritically pathetic in your denial.
 

Pospecteer

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It's about time he released those tax returns, Friday sounds good.

What exactly are the tax returns for? If he cheated on taxes, why would the IRS not charge him? They have the authority and legal expertise to go after him and his companies. It's not like they have a problem going after conservatives in the past!

That leaves the political side of wanting to see the tax returns. Do you think independents and swing voters care about tax returns, they care about the economy and national security.
 

moe

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What exactly are the tax returns for? If he cheated on taxes, why would the IRS not charge him? They have the authority and legal expertise to go after him and his companies. It's not like they have a problem going after conservatives in the past!

That leaves the political side of wanting to see the tax returns. Do you think independents and swing voters care about tax returns, they care about the economy and national security.
What other countries or entities does Trump have business dealings with? Do they have leverage over him? is he granting them special favors via our government? Since he didn't divest himself from his companies, how much is he profiting from his companies while he's POTUS? Are there payments from other governments or associated entities? Emoluments clause issues? etc. These are matters of national security.
 

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What other countries or entities does Trump have business dealings with? Do they have leverage over him? is he granting them special favors via our government? Since he didn't divest himself from his companies, how much is he profiting from his companies while he's POTUS? Are there payments from other governments or associated entities? Emoluments clause issues? etc. These are matters of national security.
Most of those cannot be answered by a tax return. Tax return support docs? Sure, but the IRS doesn't have those.
 

Pospecteer

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What other countries or entities does Trump have business dealings with? Do they have leverage over him? is he granting them special favors via our government? Since he didn't divest himself from his companies, how much is he profiting from his companies while he's POTUS? Are there payments from other governments or associated entities? Emoluments clause issues? etc. These are matters of national security.

So it is political. Do you really think that a foreign country was paying DJT before the election in the hopes that he would get elected? On top of that, why would Trump put it on a tax return? This is Russian Collusion, Part 2. I think people are getting tired of this tactic.

He was a business owner before he got elected and his company is still allowed to make money. No doubt his business has benefited from him being President, but so has everyone else who has been elected to office. OAC went from bartender to getting a $10 million dollar payday in less than a year. How many politicians start their career in the middle class and leave office a 1%er? Both sides are extremely good at it.
 

moe

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So it is political. Do you really think that a foreign country was paying DJT before the election in the hopes that he would get elected? On top of that, why would Trump put it on a tax return? This is Russian Collusion, Part 2. I think people are getting tired of this tactic.

He was a business owner before he got elected and his company is still allowed to make money. No doubt his business has benefited from him being President, but so has everyone else who has been elected to office. OAC went from bartender to getting a $10 million dollar payday in less than a year. How many politicians start their career in the middle class and leave office a 1%er? Both sides are extremely good at it.
It doesn't matter what I type as you apparently ignore it. Nothing he does matters with you people. Trump was right, he could murder someone in public and you all would just shrug your shoulders, sounds good.
 

Pospecteer

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It doesn't matter what I type as you apparently ignore it. Nothing he does matters with you people. Trump was right, he could murder someone in public and you all would just shrug your shoulders, sounds good.

I am reading it and conversing in a conversation with you. You hate Trump and think he needs to get thrown out of office using whatever is needed. If that means bending the rules and illegally obtaining his tax records, or anything else, then so be it.

I 100% disagree with it. I am in disbelief that all of the money spent on the witch hunt (the SC, what Clinton, the DNC and RNC spent) against Trump has only produced some payments for infidelity. That being said, at this point, I am pretty confident that if he had something that would disqualify him from office, they would have found it. That does not apply to accounting deductions that his tax team took that while maybe aggressive but within the realm of approved accounting practices.

I was for the Patriots Act after 911 because we needed it. Just like everything else, politicians has bastardized that process to gain political power. The left has been fighting RICO statutes being used to go after low level crime and even entrapment for certain individuals. I really sided with the Dem's on that, but now I can't think of one thing that the left is selling that I am buying.
 

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I am reading it and conversing in a conversation with you. You hate Trump and think he needs to get thrown out of office using whatever is needed. If that means bending the rules and illegally obtaining his tax records, or anything else, then so be it.

I 100% disagree with it. I am in disbelief that all of the money spent on the witch hunt (the SC, what Clinton, the DNC and RNC spent) against Trump has only produced some payments for infidelity. That being said, at this point, I am pretty confident that if he had something that would disqualify him from office, they would have found it. That does not apply to accounting deductions that his tax team took that while maybe aggressive but within the realm of approved accounting practices.

I was for the Patriots Act after 911 because we needed it. Just like everything else, politicians has bastardized that process to gain political power. The left has been fighting RICO statutes being used to go after low level crime and even entrapment for certain individuals. I really sided with the Dem's on that, but now I can't think of one thing that the left is selling that I am buying.

I don't know what the Left thinks is in Trump's tax returns that the IRS doesn't already know?
 

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I don't know what the Left thinks is in Trump's tax returns that the IRS doesn't already know?

Agreed, they are looking to make him look less rich, other than the fact that not having to disclose P/L is a business advantage, just trying to destroy him is the second reason. They literally want to create precedent on political tax returns to try and tear someone down. That is where they are at!
 

atlkvb

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Agreed, they are looking to make him look less rich, other than the fact that not having to disclose P/L is a business advantage, just trying to destroy him is the second reason. They literally want to create precedent on political tax returns to try and tear someone down. That is where they are at!

The funny thing about what you've posted here is none of them are no where near his net worth, not to mention coming anywhere close to what he's earned or ironically lost in his business transactions.

How many tax returns among our elected representatives do we ever get to examine with a magnifying glass?
 

dave

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I scanned that, and didn't see the name "Trump" on any of those IRS CI summaries. Wonder why not given the Left's obsession with his taxes? What do they know that IRS criminal investigators don't?
They know there is nothing criminal in his taxes. Their opposition research failed in 2016 and they need information for 2020.
 

atlkvb

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They know there is nothing criminal in his taxes. Their opposition research failed in 2016 and they need information for 2020.

They're all pretty sneaky little bastards, why doesn't one of them just call up one of their "deep state" buds in the IRS' CI division and ask for a copy of Trump's fraudulent tax returns?
 
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moe

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I am reading it and conversing in a conversation with you. You hate Trump and think he needs to get thrown out of office using whatever is needed. If that means bending the rules and illegally obtaining his tax records, or anything else, then so be it.

I 100% disagree with it. I am in disbelief that all of the money spent on the witch hunt (the SC, what Clinton, the DNC and RNC spent) against Trump has only produced some payments for infidelity. That being said, at this point, I am pretty confident that if he had something that would disqualify him from office, they would have found it. That does not apply to accounting deductions that his tax team took that while maybe aggressive but within the realm of approved accounting practices.

I was for the Patriots Act after 911 because we needed it. Just like everything else, politicians has bastardized that process to gain political power. The left has been fighting RICO statutes being used to go after low level crime and even entrapment for certain individuals. I really sided with the Dem's on that, but now I can't think of one thing that the left is selling that I am buying.
Why won't Trump release his tax returns like every other POTUS? why does he hide them? You also seem to think (like Trump) that it's ok for other countries to interfere with our elections. That much is clear since you call an investigation into Russian interference into the 2016 election a "witch hunt". Have you read anything about what happened in 2016? maybe you haven't. As for "payments for infidelity" smh. They were payments to try to keep those women silent before the election so that Trump wouldn't get negative press and possible keep him from becoming POTUS. Trump's lawyer Cohen is going to prison for helping Trump with those payments. Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator in that case and Trump may to go to prison over it when is term is done (why would Cohen go to prison and not Trump?). Apparently you completely ignore the obstruction of justice evidence that Mueller found. Did you see the letter put out yesterday by hundreds of former federal prosecutors that said if Trump was not POTUS that he would be charged with multiple felonies? How about the Trump admin ignoring every subpoena issued so far for congressional requests for information? The Trump admin has utter contempt for congress and the rule of law. You better hope the next Dem prez is a decent person because that person could literally do anything they wanted if they followed the Trump playbook and they may and you all better not complain.
 

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They're all pretty sneaky little bastards, why doesn't one of them just call up one of their "deep state" buds in the IRS' CI division and ask for a copy of Trump's returns?
10 years is why. Hopefully Russia doesn't "donate" 145 million to one of Trump's Foundations or an Ukraine gas company enriches one of his kids. Imagine if he tried to get rich off of China like a lot of our current politicians have. The Biden family especially.
 

moe

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one of Trump's Foundations
lol smh the investigation into the Trump Foundation is on going, may justice be served

Trump Foundation to shut down under agreement with New York attorney general

“Our petition detailed a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation — including unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more," Underwood said in a statement Tuesday. "This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump’s business and political interests."
 

atlkvb

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Why won't Trump release his tax returns like every other POTUS?

Because he doesn't have to. The IRS has all of the details, and personal tax returns are private by Law. He's released summaries which is all we really need to know. The IRS knows everything else...they're not complaining why are you on the Left?

why does he hide them?

See above answer.

You also seem to think (like Trump) that it's ok for other countries to interfere with our elections

False. Obama ignored warnings about Russian interference. We've spent millions investigating to what extent they did interfere, and concluded they had no real impact on the final vote! Per FBI and Congressional investigations!

That much is clear since you call an investigation into Russian interference into the 2016 election a "witch hunt".

It was! "No collusion" "No obstruction" Just because YOU can't say it, doesn't mean it still happened.

Have you read anything about what happened in 2016?

Have you? Russians attempted interference. Failed. There was "collusion" with them though. Among Hillary & the Democrats! You totally ignore that.

As for "payments for infidelity" smh. They were payments to try to keep those women silent before the election so that Trump wouldn't get negative press

Well they sure as Hell didn't keep quiet did they? Trump got more "***** grabbing" negative press than he paid for! Stormy BTW now has to pay HIM.

Cohen is going to prison for helping Trump with those payments.

No he isn't. Cohen is going to jail for lying and filing false financial transactions. He did that, not Trump.

Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator in that case and Trump may to go to prison over it when is term is done (why would Cohen go to prison and not Trump?)

Lie. Trump hasn't been charged as an "unindicted co-conspirator". Link it.

Apparently you completely ignore the obstruction of justice evidence that Mueller found

Apparently you do too. Mueller didn't find any "obstruction of justice" evidence. He certainly didn't name it as an "indictable" charge. Did he? Link us.

Did you see the letter put out yesterday by hundreds of former federal prosecutors that said if Trump was not POTUS that he would be charged with multiple felonies?

Did you read it? They didn't cite one felony Trump allegedly committed. Link us.

How about the Trump admin ignoring every subpoena issued so far for congressional requests for information?

Trump has ignored subpoenas for personal information. Nothing he was legally obligated to turn over during Mueller's investigation was withheld. Trump's personal discussions as President are not subject to Congressional review.

The Trump admin has utter contempt for congress and the rule of law.

Trump has followed the Law while he's been in Office. You must be talking about the Obama administration, starting with Fast & Furious, up through Benghazi, and finishing off big with abuses of the FISA court?

You better hope the next Dem prez is a decent person because that person could literally do anything they wanted

You're too late...we already had one with Zero. Nice guy, but incompetent, and likely a crook. We'll know more once the FISA investigation concludes.
 
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Gunny46

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lol smh the investigation into the Trump Foundation is on going, may justice be served

Trump Foundation to shut down under agreement with New York attorney general

“Our petition detailed a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation — including unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more," Underwood said in a statement Tuesday. "This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump’s business and political interests."
No my friend, Mrs James will run to the end of her chain and bark. The end ! However the Bidens have a serious China and Ukraine problem.