Not necesarily. Knowing Biff can’t be indicted as POTUS, Mueller could simply highlight the obstruction instances in his report for congress to see and let Congress navigate the legal obstacles from there.
William Barr is in deep trouble
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He would have spelled out in his report that indictment in the case of obstruction would be justified, however unlikely due to legal questions surrounding whether or not a sitting POTUS can be indicted. He also knows that it would be hard to argue obstruction when the President is within his legal authority to fire the SP. What's the argument there? "He obstructed because he did what he's legally allowed to do...."
No.... he knew he didn't have enough for obstruction so he punted. Plain and simple.
And as I predicted, both sides are still arguing over aspects of the report that suits their agendas.
I’m willing to bet there is a post or 20 of you all laughing that suggestion off from several months ago. Further, he could’ve stated that obstruction did occur definitively, he didn’t.
He stated why he didn’t definitively say it in the report. Pay f’ucking attention instead of parroting whatever you see on Fox. Instead of saying it definitely did occur, he said I’m not saying it didn’t occur. His rationale was he didn’t want to incriminate him without him being able to defend himself with a trial.
Go back and look for posts about indicting a sitting POTUS. You’ll find I said I hope the issue is pressed because I would love to see it decided in the courts.
He didn't answer the legal decision he was obligated to answer. Barr did. Mueller intended to play politics with a legal issue. Mueller had so much evidence he couldn't get Trump subpoenad. And they lived happily ever after.
The end.
Im gonna let this play out. Our perspective is what the WH and media feeds us. Yet Mueller had issues with AG’a 4 page summation of his report. This isn’t done.
As I understand the role of a special prosecute, he is to investigate roles of all folks related to a SPECIFIC CRIME. In this case there was NO CrIME to investigate. Actions of Mueller and his band of merry Democrats were illegitimate, null and void. PERIOD.
Trumpers: during the investigation - Mueller is crooked and dirty.
When Barr released his “summary” - Mueller is a straight shooter, honest man.
When they find out they were hoodwinked by Barr - Mueller is crooked and dirty.
When Barr released his “summary” - Mueller is a straight shooter, honest man.
When they find out they were hoodwinked by Barr - Mueller is crooked and dirty.
Read Mueller's letter again. It's not what people are making it out to be.
"The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office’s work and conclusions." - No ****. It was a 4 page summary.
"We communicated that concern to the Department on the morning of March 25." - And?
"There is new public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations." - 1) He's not stating Barr's letter is the cause of the "public confusion", he's just stating there is new "public confusion" 2) Anyone can read a lightly redacted copy of the report and make their own determinations.
I've been letting this play out since Trump fired Comey (WHICH HE WAS WITHIN HIS RIGHTS TO DO) and frankly I'd spent. I don't fracking care anymore. I knew there would be no proof that Trump and Putin was butt buddies conspiring to steal the election, but I let the left have their circus show. Now that the report is out, and based on what I read in it. I don't freaking care. We have an election in 2020, the public can make their correction then. In the meantime, let's worry more about what this administration has in store in terms of policy and law, and stop dicking around with pointless ******** that's not going to change a single thing.
There never was much that could come from this other loosening moderate/independents from voting for Biff in '20. He's been hovering at 43% for a long time and I think that's where he'll be by 11/20. There's zero chance of impeachment, just a hope that someone beats Biff in '20. We'll see where this goes from here.
Dems won't start impeachment before the election even though it is warranted and needed. I agree there. At this point of what has transpired and the damage done to date, I see an individual and group of Americans that won't honor the results of the election if Trump loses. Very troubling and these morons won't realize it.
You all have literally been try to undo an election for 2.5 years and you’re pointing your finger at the right. That’s an impressive level of horseshit right there.
Undo an election? Can you point to any posts as specific examples? We have been pointing out what an idiot trump is. (Be right back, gonna get a hamberder and covfefe.) I mean that is blatantly obvious. We have pointed out Russia's meddling and interference. Multiple intelligence agencies stated as much.
I've never understood what that means. Would it be like...Trump would get impeached, removed from office and HC would be put in his place?! lol yeah sounds legit shew I don't think that there's a nutty theory out there that they don't subscribe to.
And you all tried to push a collusion narrative for 2.5 years which was ******** simply because you couldn’t handle the loss.
No it’s not. There is documented evidence of the Obama administration concocting a narrative for when Hillary won to force acceptance of the results that was decided on election night to be pivoted towards the collusion angle. The first part has been fully released via interviews and emails from the administration. The second was documented in the first post election from media embeds that released their book before Trump was even in the WH. Funny things, facts are.
The only thing AG Barr was statutorily required to provide was the four-page summary letter he already presented. Asking President Trump to throw the executive privilege blanket over the full work product effectively shields it from congressional review; AND simultaneously blocks congress from proceeding with any impeachment action.
The assertion of executive privilege effectively removes any lack of production action (ie. the impeachment threat) by Chairman Jerry Nadler.
Essentially AG Barr et al is going old school with classic separation of power. POTUS Trump built a bridge from executive to legislative branch with voluntary production; however, if Nadler wants to be a resistance member then the executive branch will pull back and the customary three-branch separation of power rules will be the standard form of engagement.
Smart play.