One bad season and everyone gives up on WVU BB

sg44gold

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Ha! When you read the review you see that, sadly, this IDIOT knows nothing about our team. Ahmad lost to injury??? Ha! Ha!

And NO mention of McCabe, Haley and Mathews. Or that Culver should have been the Big XII Freshman of the Year.

This article is pure crap.
 

doneagain

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Ha! When you read the review you see that, sadly, this IDIOT knows nothing about our team. Ahmad lost to injury??? Ha! Ha!

And NO mention of McCabe, Haley and Mathews. Or that Culver should have been the Big XII Freshman of the Year.

This article is pure crap.

I agree.
 

WVUALLEN

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He lost my interest when he picked Baylor #2. What a joke. The guy is a baseball player from BYU. Writes blogs and is from Kansas.
 

RichardCranium1

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WVU should be put in the top half.
No reason why not except we are coming off a horrible season and we loss to Coastal Carolina with all those players.

Respect is earned and not given. Interested in the development of McCabe and Haley.
Both came on late.
 
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WV brings back pretty much all their production
But so does Oklahoma State
Oklahoma St has a deeper recruiting class as well.

Quite possibly both end up in the NCAA Tournament.
But..
As of right now Oklahoma State out of the teams who finished at the bottom has more to sell.
Plus they beat WVU both times.
 

5-Technique

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WVU should be 5-6 games better with the additions coming in. I would have said 2-3 if it were just Oscar and Miles but the two jucos (esp the McNeil kid) are what the doctor ordered. The defense is still a big question mark but the offensive personnel has improved a ton. If we can fill the last two spots with some foot speed, may even be able to press again with a shot blocker at the head of it.
 

Buckaineer

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WVU had one of the worst seasons in WVU bb history.

That doesn't happen really anywhere at a major school--so its difficult to see going from that to something good.
 

sg44gold

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Unless you were actually paying attention and saw how it ended as opposed to the **** show it was prior to the house cleaning. This years record has almost no bearing on next year.
 
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WV lost to Coastal Carolina.
There was no reason why WV shouldn't have won the CBI.

WV needs to get better in the backcourt
Cannot play a free flowing game.

The shitshow was still there at the end of the season in terms of allowing guard dominant teams to have their way.


If you look at the Big 12
Most schools bring back a lot of production in the backcourt.
A lot of the same guards that had their way against WV.

Even after the dismissal of players.
 

Buckaineer

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Unless you were actually paying attention and saw how it ended as opposed to the **** show it was prior to the house cleaning. This years record has almost no bearing on next year.


WVU finished this season being blown out by coastal carolina at home--in a game WVU paid for. No way to see anything good from that.
 

WVUALLEN

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Oklahoma State will suck balls as usual. Just like Texas overrated ponies. WVU will be top 4 of the conference again next year. SO TVZ and his alter ego Bucksuck and Pride can go cheer for marshmellow.
 
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Obviously there is a chance.
Huggins is a great coach .

I think the comparsion between Oklahoma St and WV has merit .

Both return their full teams

Oklahoma State brings in 3 Top 200 players and 1 Top 100 player.
According to the 247 composite has the 20th ranked class

West Virginia brings in 1 Top 25 player .
Has the 37th ranked class with 4 players.
Mainly JUCOs.

I wouldn't be so sure you are in a better position going forward. .

I haven't looked at all the teams in terms of who they lose.

Kansas, Baylor and Texas Tech would be probably Top 3

#4 could be a few different teams
Texas
TCU
Oklahoma State
West Virginia

Oklahoma is another team like WV.
Lon Kruger is a great coach.
Who is the man without James.
They to bring in a great class for 2019.
 

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They’re just setting us up for the 2019-2020 revenge tour. You can bet our guys will be hearing and reading crap like that the whole offseason, if I were them I’d want to set the record, biggest turn around in program history.
 

doneagain

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Obviously there is a chance.
Huggins is a great coach .

I think the comparsion between Oklahoma St and WV has merit .

Both return their full teams

Oklahoma State brings in 3 Top 200 players and 1 Top 100 player.
According to the 247 composite has the 20th ranked class

West Virginia brings in 1 Top 25 player .
Has the 37th ranked class with 4 players.
Mainly JUCOs.

I wouldn't be so sure you are in a better position going forward. .

I haven't looked at all the teams in terms of who they lose.

Kansas, Baylor and Texas Tech would be probably Top 3

#4 could be a few different teams
Texas
TCU
Oklahoma State
West Virginia

Oklahoma is another team like WV.
Lon Kruger is a great coach.
Who is the man without James.
They to bring in a great class for 2019.

Culver, Konate, and Oscar on the court together, coupled with Huggins always “fixing it” when he says he will gives me confidence that we will not finish dead last.
 

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People acting like

Losing season
NIT loss
Sweet Sixteen loss
1st Rd upset
Sweet Sixteen loss
Sweet Sixteen loss
Losing season

Is

A) Some magical era of WVU basketball and anyone doubting WVU is an idiot or Troll

B) this past season is some fluke deal

When recruiting has been average at best since 2010 with MULTIPLE players not being either guys who will buy in or guys who can contribute. Players coming in and leaving like a JuCo program over and over. Huggins recruiting and signing off on bringing these guys in, them not panning out then being shown the door. Praised for "fixing" the mess he and his staff makes like he's doing WVU a favor. Getting it "fixed" only to top out in the 3rd round of the NCAA Tournament.

Huggins is a above average coach who has had TWO great seasons and multiple good seasons in a 37 year career.

He's a proud West Virginian and a person that loves WVU but he has been given a pass because he played for WVU.

Anyone not from West Virginia or WVU would be under so much fire it would be the 90% people that see Huggins can do no wrong crowd calling for a change and the 10% not satisfied crowd or (Trolls) defending Huggins to the death.

He is payed like a Final Four or Championship level coach not a Sweet Sixteen level coach.

Zero reason he can't assemble a staff that recruits 1 McD AA (just 1 not a entire class) recruit a year and that can teach guys to not be turnover machines.
 
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Culver, Konate, and Oscar on the court together, coupled with Huggins always “fixing it” when he says he will gives me confidence that we will not finish dead last.

Didn't Konate declare for the draft

Truthfully. I would find it interesting if WV put all three on the court.
You need guards in basketball. Those 3 would be ran off the court.
 

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I think the National outlook is obviously negative with all that’s happened to the hoop program. It does have the feel of a dumpster fire to anyone that isn’t pro WVU. But Huggs is a great coach and a couple of these new kids next year should give him enough to be competitive.

Even thought this guy obviously knows very little he won’t be alone in calling out WVU as a bottom 3 team in the Big12 next. So to act like WVU should be viewed as a top 5 Big12 team next year is a homer view. Not saying that’s gonna happen just saying his view won’t be far off others. Let’s see what Big12 coaches think next October.
 

WVUALLEN

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Didn't Konate declare for the draft

Truthfully. I would find it interesting if WV put all three on the court.
You need guards in basketball. Those 3 would be ran off the court.

Declaring and going are 2 different things. See last year when he declared.

It's obvious you have not updated yourself on the direction of the team this year. It's silly that you believe to have such great powers of observation and know all about the be all. You're nothing more than a jack *** looking for attention.

You really have no clue but typing jibberish nonsense like your counter ego WVUfan304, WVPride304 and what other profiles you use. Move along child.
 
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Pitt4Life34

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WVU should be 5-6 games better with the additions coming in. I would have said 2-3 if it were just Oscar and Miles but the two jucos (esp the McNeil kid) are what the doctor ordered. The defense is still a big question mark but the offensive personnel has improved a ton. If we can fill the last two spots with some foot speed, may even be able to press again with a shot blocker at the head of it.


What’s up Pride? Still can’t believe WVU feel a bit short on their Final Four run.
 

WVUALLEN

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He did not sign with an agent.

He can now sign with an agent and still return

Last off season, significant changes were made to the NBA draft process. For the first time ever, NCAA players were allowed to hire agents to assist them in the draft process. The changes came in order to provide the athletes with greater knowledge of their true value to professional teams, much more than what a coach or parent could provide. Also, the new rules were created to help counteract the large number of high-level NBA prospects that were previously working with agents without NCAA approval.

With the current college basketball season nearing its end, the NCAA released a memo to its coaches earlier this month to help outline the new rule changes in regards to players signing with an agent.

Once they officially sign with an agent, players can only accept the following benefits: transportation, lodging and meals related to meeting with the agent or conducting workouts with NBA teams. Agents are not allowed to pay for training, nutritionists or other services by professionals. Players also cannot miss class to participate in private workouts with NBA teams.

If a player receives a conditional combine invitation or a G League Elite Camp invitation, they may conduct workouts with their college coaches to prepare for these events. However, players are restricted to a maximum of four hours per day and 20 hours per week of workouts leading up to the combine.

To return to school, players must withdraw from the NBA draft by May 29. Those who do withdraw must terminate their representation agreements before enrolling in the next academic term.

While all these rule changes seem to be in favor of college athletes, in typical NCAA fashion, they’re all extremely complicated, ambiguous and ever changing. There are still some ridiculous restrictions on what a player can and can’t do in the new rules.

Having an agent who can assist the player should provide a greater understanding of the entire process for everyone involved, but we’ll see how it actually goes once the season is officially over.

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/4/5/18296225/nba-draft-2019-rules-agent-deadline
 
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Declaring and going are 2 different things. See last year when he declared.

It's obvious you have not updated yourself on the direction of the team this year. It's silly that you believe to have such great powers of observation and know all about the be all. You're nothing more than a jack *** looking for attention.

You really have no clue but typing jibberish nonsense like your counter ego WVUfan304, WVPride304 and what other profiles you use. Move along child.


You brought some JUCOs in.

That doesn't mean anything because they are unproven.

The facts on the wall say that WV will finish anywhere from 6th to 10th in the Big 12 next year.
 
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Will be...

Or would be...

This death lineup of Konate, Oscar and Culver for WV is a bit far fetched.

Haven't seen Oscar play at this level yet but according to most his offensive game is not refined.

Most teams in college and the NBA go small.
Very few go big across the front unless those three players can stretch the floor.

If WV use those three teams will go up tempo.
Unless Oscar can guard the perimeter or press.

WV will have major issues.

I think the lineup of....
Culver
Oscar
Haley
McCabe
Matthews

Is the way WV will go if Oscar can stretch the floor.
If not you will have two bigs and one spot.
 

doneagain

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Think conjecture would be expecting JUCOs to make a difference right away....

Until I see them play for WV I am expecting WV to improve because of McCabe and Knapper's maturity.

You said the FACTS say WVU will have another bad season. The only facts you listed are that WVU is bringing in a couple of JUCOs. To suggest that tells how a team will finish - good or bad - is conjecture.
 
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You said the FACTS say WVU will have another bad season. The only facts you listed are that WVU is bringing in a couple of JUCOs. To suggest that tells how a team will finish - good or bad - is conjecture.

I said ...
The facts say that WV will finish anywhere from 6th to tenth.

If you think any different you are being very optimistic.

McCabe, Knapper, Matthews and Harler.
Those 4 as of right now could put WV in a great position in 2020-2021
2019-2020???

When I saw them last I saw what I saw all year.
Plus for the most part WV allowed Grand Canyon to run with them.

Defensively those 4 are not as good as you would like in the backcourt.

Until I see differently and until I see the JUCOS play I say 6th to 10th.

Oklahoma State
Iowa State
Kansas State
WV
Oklahoma

Are all in the same boat.
I think the best of the group is Oklahoma St.
Who was 2-0 last year against WV, brings back everyone and brings in a better recruiting class.
 
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Next year should be an actual down year for the Big 12 for the most part.
Think Big 12 gets 6 teams in not because we deserve it but because of the records.
Last year thought the Big 12 deserved 7.


Iowa St is definitely at the bottom.
They will be horrible.

Oklahoma loses too much. Don't know why the article has them at 4.
They lose pretty much their entire team.
Kruger is good enough coach to have them competiting for a spot though.

Kansas St loses too much but they could be in the mix for a NCAA Tournament spot.


You could actually throw Texas and TCU in there.
TCU loses a lot off that team. Even their PG.

Shaka Smart hasn't proven he can win in the Big 12.
But just going off of rosters Texas could actually be at the top as well if you wanted to be a glass half full guy.
Hayes didn't play at the end of the season.
Andrew Jones is a better version of Kerwin Roach.
Without Osetkowski...6'8 Liddell gets to play.
He has a 7 foot wing span and call play every position on the floor.
A lot better athlete.
 

doneagain

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I said ...
The facts say that WV will finish anywhere from 6th to tenth.

If you think any different you are being very optimistic.

McCabe, Knapper, Matthews and Harler.
Those 4 as of right now could put WV in a great position in 2020-2021
2019-2020???

When I saw them last I saw what I saw all year.
Plus for the most part WV allowed Grand Canyon to run with them.

Defensively those 4 are not as good as you would like in the backcourt.

Until I see differently and until I see the JUCOS play I say 6th to 10th.

Oklahoma State
Iowa State
Kansas State
WV
Oklahoma

Are all in the same boat.
I think the best of the group is Oklahoma St.
Who was 2-0 last year against WV, brings back everyone and brings in a better recruiting class.

No, the FACTS do not say that. YOU say that. The facts are only that we - like every team in America - will have some new players. How we will finish is purely a matter of opinion at this point, and there is nothing factual about saying we will finish anywhere between 1st through 10th, other than we will finish somewhere between first through tenth.
 
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No, the FACTS do not say that. YOU say that. The facts are only that we - like every team in America - will have some new players. How we will finish is purely a matter of opinion at this point, and there is nothing factual about saying we will finish anywhere between 1st through 10th, other than we will finish somewhere between first through tenth.

You can deny the truth if you want....

Logically anyone with an objective opinion will put WV at the bottom or near the bottom.

You are bringing in a great player...
But you already have a great big man. There is doubt that both can play on the court at the same time.

More than that your guards are still not upperclassmen.
Knapper and McCabe as juniors and seniors will be different.
But there will still be growing pains.
 
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