WV Teachers Strike 2.0
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Is it really taking money out of public schools, or is it additional money on top of public schools? 40+ other states can figure it out, but we can't?
To my understanding, funding is pulled from the local public school to fund the charter school.
I may be wrong but I am pretty sure it typically costs less in funding for charter schools on a per student basis. If that is the case it should actually free up money at the public school level.
If WV public schools was ranked high than i could understand them fighting the charter schools, but they dont, our kids deserve a better education....
Each student receives a voucher that can then be used with a charter school.
Is it possible our understanding, from both sides of the issues, is wrong? Seriously, 40+ other states use charter schools. Why the f can't we?
If money isn't pulled from the local public school, then that means that more tax dollars are used to fund both schools? Again, pretty sure that all states fund schools through enrollment numbers ('X' dollars per student). Thus, if students are given a "voucher" to go to a charter school, then the enrollment of the public school goes down = less money for the local public school = funding being pulled from public schools.
Are charter schools the "fix" to public education? Those 40+ states, they all have high achieving scores?
You realize that the "rankings" aren't on the teachers entirely, right? There are other things that result in poor scores.
Fair enough. And I don't know the answer to that. Current system doesn't seem to be working and I'm willing to try something new.
And more importantly, if WV voters REJECT trying something new, can I strike on paying my taxes? This strike is ********. Don't like the policies? Stop voting them in. Campaign like hell against legislators. Use your voice. Striking is cowardly ********.
The wording is not very well done. I believe there is some confusion over this issue. It appears to me, the school board would have the authority to designate certain funds from the general levy for local improvements, thereby potentially increasing assessed value of property in that area (county). Once the increased taxes are generated from the increased assessed property value, the increased taxes go into a separate fund (Growth County Fund) and the local board has control over that fund. That is one of the big sticking points about this bill being unconstitutional.
This is from the bill.
The Legislature finds and declares that there has been, overall, a statewide decline in enrollment in the public schools of this state; due to this decline, most public schools have ample space for students, teachers, and administrators; however, some counties of this state have experienced significant increases in enrollment due to significant growth in those counties; that those counties experiencing significant increases do not have adequate facilities to accommodate students, teachers, and administrators. Therefore, the Legislature finds that county boards of education in those high-growth counties should have the authority to designate revenues generated from the application of the regular school board levy due to new construction or improvements placed in a Growth County School Facilities Act Fund be used for school facilities in those counties to promote the best interests of this state's students.
(1) For the purposes of this subsection, “growth county” means any county that has experienced an increase in second month net enrollment of 50 or more during any three of the last five years, as determined by the state Department of Education.
(2) The provisions of this subsection shall only apply to any growth county, as defined in subdivision (1) of this subsection, that, by resolution of its county board of education, chooses to use the provisions of this subsection.
(3) For any growth county, as defined in subdivision (1) of this subsection, that adopts a resolution choosing to use the provisions of this subsection, pursuant to subdivision (2) of this subsection, assessed values resulting from additional appraisal or valuation due to new construction or improvements to existing real property shall be designated as new property values and identified by the county assessor. The statewide regular school board levy rate as established by the Legislature shall be applied to the assessed value designated as new property values and the resulting property tax revenues collected from application of the regular school board levy rate shall be placed in a separate account designated as the Growth County School Facilities Act Fund. Revenues deposited in the Growth County School Facilities Act Fund shall be appropriated by the county board of education for construction, maintenance or repair of school facilities. Revenues in the fund may be carried over for an indefinite length of time and may be used as matching funds for the purpose of obtaining funds from the School Building Authority or for the payment of bonded indebtedness incurred for school facilities. For any growth county choosing to use the provisions of this subsection, estimated school board revenues generated from application of the regular school board levy rate to new property values are not to be considered as local funds for purposes of the computation of local share under the provisions of §18-9A-11 of this code.
You can't fix local pockets of stupidity. FFS we have a 19-year old state legislator who wants to give WV excess funds to build a f'ucking border wall.
You realize that the reason Carmichael attached the charter school thing to the bill was in an attempt to break the teachers union, right? It has nothing to do with education reform, and everything to do with breaking the union rights of teachers.
You're actually making me like Carmichael. I don't think public employees should have unions. They can fire their own boss. It also comes off as a little dishonest to say the ONLY reason or the charter school provision was pay back. Good grief.
AND certain members of the state legislature have friends who want to start charter schools. Good ole corrupt WV Republicans.
And who protects a public school teacher from wrongful termination? Because that does happen, believe it or not.
I do realize that , but charter schools are working in other states. Competition is good, not just in sports but all walks of life .
Well the remaining states that DON'T have charter schools are probably higher than WV too.
The Unions are feeding the Status qou..Cannot do anything to prop another County up that is struggling unless the unions say you have to do it across the board....It's like the unions function on Socialism
Here is another piece of text from the bill.
Very clear!
That county boards of education may increase their regular levy rates through a majority vote of their members up to the sum of the levy rates set forth in subdivisions (1), (2), and (3), section six-c of this article for each class of property, which are: (1) For Class I property, 22.95 cents per $100; (2) for Class II property, 45.9 cents per $100; and (3) for Class III and Class IV property, 91.8 cents per $100
As long as the extra tax revenue goes to these charter schools that Carmichael's friends are going to start up, they are all for it!
Hmmmm. I'm not sure it's as clear as you think. And another point, to your original post, BOE board members are elected.. Interesting find though.
Would the local school board also govern the new charter school? If no, then he's correct.....
How so? Is the suggestion that an unelected BOE is going to swoop in and raise people's property taxes for charter schools?
Because teachers at charter schools are non union and that is a problem for the teachers union. Thats just a guess on my part.
Exactly. And where I live, our board is going through a completely separate nightmare right now and wouldn't dare raise levy rates.
Unfortunately in this state everyone wants Champagne on a Mad Dog budget.
You're right, much of this bill strips some of the power from the unions, and they are opposed to things like School Choice, Locality Pay.
I find it interesting however that I had to inform my teacher friends and family that they were on strike last night. Then unions really care about their members.
I find that hard to believe. EVERY f'n one of the teachers I even remotely know in my world have been talking about this for weeks.I find it interesting however that I had to inform my teacher friends and family that they were on strike last night. Then unions really care about their members.
My nieces and nephews went to charter schools for a few years of elementary and jr high. They all go to public schools now. The charter schools were fine but after they started offering packages and focus areas for kids that drew students the local public schools also started offering similar programs. End of the day the parents had more choices for their kids. Charter may not be better ultimately for all kids but they provide market forces that can and do help kids.
I don't think the local school board can increase the levy above certain max. I'd have to go back and look at that. I'm not totally thrilled with that, but they can be removed on the local level I guess if people don't like what they're doing.
Not necessarily....In 2016-17, there were 781 charter schools that participated in collective bargaining agreements with teachers' unions. There was no need for this strike.......Justice said he would VETO any bill that had more than 2 test charter schools.
Justice is a blowhard. Thanks for the info on teachers unions and charter schools. Didnt realize that.
100% That's my biggest gripe. I might even agree with the teachers stance and support them. Absolutely no f'n reason for a strike.